Posted on 02/05/2016 9:06:30 PM PST by TBP
I had Trump, Carson & Rubio voters tell me at our Iowa Caucus that I couldn't vote 4 Cruz because he was not a citizen! That's a caucus 4 u
But I like Christians. I'm kind of a connoisseur of Christians. :)
You might enjoy witnessing someone (or a group of someones) insult a Christian in front of me. It wouldn't be pleasant - for them.
Yeah....like you Cruz supporters are so much more pure!
They are incorrect — you are free to vote for Cruz or any other non citizen.
In the Federal election it may be a different matter
” I’m kind of a connoisseur of Christians. :)”
May I suggest a light rub with paprika and marjoram :^]
I have no doubt where Cruz’s allegiance lies, but as Trump has said, he needs to clear this question up.
Why are Trump people so nasty?
Someone random person’s BS tweet is the basis for a thread?? LOL!!
These posts are getting funnier, by the minute :D
Know you that I volunteer my Trump nastiness in the service of the Israeli peole TO THE DEATH.
I've always loved the way the Israeli army has p0wn3d the b*tch arab "militaries".
Yeah, Saint Pancake - she's your favorite, that's right. :)
I've got both paprika, and hot paprika.
Choices, choices...
If you go to your first caucus without any training, people will try to screw you, usually successfully.
Why don't you Trump and Cruz supporters both act reasonable, none of this the started it BS, and post articles that are intelligent that point out the strengths of your candidate instead of looking for the most insulting and ignorant articles out there to attack the other candidates?
You can make any NBC argument you want, but I prefer someone born on us soil to two us citizens. I grew up around immigrants and today’s immigrants are not your father’s immigrants.
Let’s see the documentation, until then its BS a la king.
Good point.
Stating that Carson dropped out when the person making the statement knows he did not is either an intentional or negligent misrepresentation of a fact.
Stating that a candidate for either president or vice president must be a natural born citizen is simply stating a true fact.
yet to be legally determined...there was plenty of time to do that before now by a prudent lawyer,...where is he?
However, had that Englishman moved to another country for a number of years and his child was born in that country I doubt they would consider that child a natural born citizen. Especially if 1 of the parents had applied for citizenship in that country. I furthermore am highly doubtful that they would have considered that child a U.S. citizen.
The first Constitutional Convention passed Articles of Confederation in 1781.
Martin Van Buren, born the following year 1782, was the first American president.
The presidents before him can only be the American “citizens” mentioned as eligible for either offices, the presidency or vice presidency, as set forth in Article 2, Section, 1, clause 5. All of the presidents before Van Buren were born in British American colonies. All of the presidents, including and following Van Buren were born in one of the state’s of the United States of America. They were not just citizens. They were also “natural born citizens”.
See, the problem was that if the Framers had limited eligibility for both offices to natural born citizens instead of just citizens, they would have made all Americans ineligible for the offices— until an American was born in the USA.
So where does the logic lead us?
The Framers intended the term “natural born citizen” to require birth in the United States of America, making the person a citizen as well, so that a citizen might also be a natural born citizen, and a natural born citizen was a citizen who had fulfilled another condition as well.
But the legal status of citizenship did not necessarily include natural born citizenship.
Principles of parsimony, rules of construction and plain common sense lead to no other conclusion.
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