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The Pentagon Is Building the "Arsenal Plane," a Giant Flying Battlewagon
Popular Mechanics ^ | February 2, 2016 | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 02/03/2016 7:00:59 AM PST by C19fan

U.S. Secretary of Defense Ash Carter has revealed the existence of a program to develop a so-called "Arsenal Plane." Designed to back up fifth generation fighters such as the F-35 with a large number of conventional weapons, backing up the high-tech fighters with tried-and-true ordinance.

The Arsenal Plane actually has its roots at sea. During the 1990s, there was an effort to create so-called "Arsenal Ships"— large boats packed with hundreds of missile silos that would rely on the targeting data of the rest of the fleet. The Arsenal Ship was never built, but four Ohio-class submarines were converted to carry 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles each, platforms now recognized as extremely important in providing stand-off, precision firepower.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: air; force
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The 70s idea of a modified 747 carrying cruise missiles is back.
1 posted on 02/03/2016 7:00:59 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Arsenal ship revisited.
Only airborne.


2 posted on 02/03/2016 7:02:08 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: C19fan

IOW: a more expensive B-52.


3 posted on 02/03/2016 7:04:00 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: C19fan

It actually makes some sense. An F-22 or F-35 flying in front to designate targets, and a cargo plane some distance behind launching long-range missiles at the targets.


4 posted on 02/03/2016 7:05:46 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: C19fan

Such an aircraft would be an easy target for enemy fighter planes.


5 posted on 02/03/2016 7:07:21 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Liberals are the Taliban of America, trying to tear down any symbol that they don't like.)
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To: mrsmith

Rumsfeld was right about one thing. What America truly needs is autonomous special forces. The days of fighting with massive flying and floating contraptions ended with WWII.


6 posted on 02/03/2016 7:07:29 AM PST by Milhous
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To: mrsmith

Or in other other words, “The F-35 is a piece of crap and won’t do the job it should but we are going ahead with it anyway because we have to pay for votes and we will buy even more votes with another plane. Yea, we screwed up with the 35 but what the hell, it’s only taxpayer money and failed national defense.”


7 posted on 02/03/2016 7:13:04 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yes, but suspect such aircraft would have fighter support.


8 posted on 02/03/2016 7:16:22 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: C19fan

An airborne Yamato. What could go wrong?


9 posted on 02/03/2016 7:17:01 AM PST by lurk
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To: Blood of Tyrants

A QB is an easy target for defensive linemen.

That is what offensive linemen are for.

Also, a reason for a quick throw and running away.


10 posted on 02/03/2016 7:25:45 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: C19fan

Plane could carry heavier longer range AA missiles which fighters cannot carry, or carry more to supplement planes when they run out of missiles - since the F-22 is available only very limited quantities - 60 or so operational at any one time, and the F-35 can hardly pack anything (compare with SU-35S) and will also be in limited quantities, they both will run out quickly against swarming massed enemy fighters. (In simulation against advanced enemy planes: the F-22 will only take out 2.5 enemy to 1, and the F-35 is 3.5 lost to 1 enemy those assets will be used up quickly.)


11 posted on 02/03/2016 7:29:34 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: C19fan

Gimme a geosynchronous satellite with a maximum blasto laser and I’ll knock that sucker out of the sky in a microsecond. Sorry ‘bout the young women flying it.


12 posted on 02/03/2016 7:30:17 AM PST by OKSooner (Once you understand that Barack Obama is not on America's side, everything that he does makes sense.)
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To: mrsmith

Yeah. A much more expensive B-52.

They “might” make 3 or 4. Need 110 or 200.


13 posted on 02/03/2016 7:32:46 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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Here's your arsenal plane.


14 posted on 02/03/2016 7:33:43 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (I miss my dad.)
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To: lurk

Yamato? How about the Atragon! It could do anything! Flying submarine-battleship that could drill into the earth’s core!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atragon


15 posted on 02/03/2016 7:48:54 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Or the B-17 variant known as the YB-40?
16 posted on 02/03/2016 8:04:03 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: C19fan

For air-to-air combat, this is a silly idea. The Sov, er, Russians have long-ranged AAMs, as do the Euroweenies. Unless the range of AMRAAM is significantly extended, the ‘arsenal plane’ will be in range...
A better trick would be UCAVs armed with missiles working in tandem with the fighters.

However an ‘arsenal plane’ for ground attack - that has potential. A flying barge with tons of various sized PGMs ready to drop...


17 posted on 02/03/2016 8:14:47 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: C19fan

Go whole hog - Dig out the plans for the USS Los Angeles. Use the trapeze system to launch drones,


18 posted on 02/03/2016 8:16:21 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The Christmas I was 6, I got a toy version of the Army’s “Atomic Annie”. After the real artillery piece was retired, we got word from the former Soviet Army that they knew where each and every one of those guns were, and had plans to destroy each one on the first day of war. This fits the same criteria of “all your eggs in one basket” (or at least too few baskets).


19 posted on 02/03/2016 8:32:59 AM PST by Pecos (What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.)
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To: C19fan

Let’s work on keeping the F-35 in the air first, kids.


20 posted on 02/03/2016 8:53:31 AM PST by ameribbean expat
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