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How religious schools led to the decline of Arabic science
Patheos ^ | January 14, 2016 | Epiphenom

Posted on 01/21/2016 6:54:33 AM PST by C19fan

The world’s first scientific renaissance took place not in Italy, but in the Arab world. The period between the 9th and 11th centuries AD, when Islam took hold of a band of territory strategy from Spain in the West through to what is now Pakistan, saw an extraordinary intellectual flowering. Scientists in the Arab world during this period made important advances in fields as varied as astronomy, mathematics, medicine and optics – advances that fed into and stimulated the later European Renaissance. Which makes it all the stranger that modern Islamic nations have such a lamentable record in science. Where did it all go wrong?

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Islam is fundamentally anti-science.
1 posted on 01/21/2016 6:54:33 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Barack, is that you?


2 posted on 01/21/2016 7:00:22 AM PST by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: C19fan

That “intellectual flowering” was the conquest of areas which and Greek and Roman libraries, which they translated and claimed as their own discoveries.

Nobody in the west knew better at that time because of the Catholic Church hoarding and hiding old manuscripts, so everybody just thought the Arabs were brilliant.

http://www.aina.org/books/hgsptta.htm


3 posted on 01/21/2016 7:00:46 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: C19fan

Nonsense.


4 posted on 01/21/2016 7:01:22 AM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Arabic numerals are Arab in origin.


5 posted on 01/21/2016 7:03:16 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: C19fan

Inbreeding doesn’t help, either.


6 posted on 01/21/2016 7:03:16 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: massgopguy

“Arabic numerals” are Indian in origin.


7 posted on 01/21/2016 7:05:26 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: massgopguy

But they flow left to right....


8 posted on 01/21/2016 7:06:04 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: massgopguy

But they flow left to right....


9 posted on 01/21/2016 7:06:52 AM PST by Paladin2
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Arabic numerals are Arab in origin.

Actually, they're Indian in origin. They were adopted by Arabs.

10 posted on 01/21/2016 7:07:36 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (I got nothin'.)
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To: achilles2000

Bingo. Mad Mo is a distructor.


11 posted on 01/21/2016 7:07:45 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: wbarmy

At the time the Catholic Church was the only Christian Church... and considering everything was a manuscript, we’re hundreds of years before the printing press after all... it shouldn’t be a surprise that research and literature was protected in order to be preserved.

Imagine... if you’re only copy of the bible was one you personally had to hand copy. How would you treat such a document?


12 posted on 01/21/2016 7:09:05 AM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: C19fan
The period between the 9th and 11th centuries AD, when Islam took hold of a band of territory strategy from Spain in the West through to what is now Pakistan, saw an extraordinary intellectual flowering.

This is very much disputed by historians. Islam appropriated existing knowledge gained from the classical world, particularly Greece, and used it in certain spots for the good of the Empire. Totalitarian regimes can do that - gather known science in one place for a specific purpose - a grand building, a particular military technology. Just look at the Soviet Union. Yes - they created huge bombs and missiles (at great expense and with ideas stolen elsewhere) but society was a wreck.

13 posted on 01/21/2016 7:09:15 AM PST by PGR88
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In his very helpful book, What If Jesus Had Never Been Born, D. James Kennedy gives a list of some of the outstanding Bible-believing scientists who gave the lead in founding the following branches of science. This list is worth repeating:

Antiseptic Surgery Joseph Lister
Bacteriology Louis Pasteur
Calculus Isaac Newton
Celestial Mechanics Johannes Kepler
Chemistry Robert Boyle
Comparative Anatomy Georges Cuvier
Dimensional Analysis Lord Rayleigh
Dynamics Isaac Newton
Electronics John Ambrose Fleming
Electrodynamics James Clerk Maxwell
Electromagnetics Michael Faraday
Energetics Lord Kelvin
Entomology of Living Insects Henri Fabre
Field Theory James Clerk Maxwell
Fluid Mechanics George Stokes
Galactic Astronomy Sir William Hershel
Gas Dynamics Robert Boyle
Genetics Gregor Mendel
Glacial Geology Louis Agassiz
Gynaecology James Simpson
Hydrography Matthew Maury
Hydrostatics Blaise Pascal
Ichthyology Louis Agassiz
Isotopic Chemistry William Ramsey
Model Analysis Lord Rayleigh
Natural History John Ray
Non-Euclidean Geometry Bernard Riemann
Oceanography Matthew Maury
Optical Mineralogy David Brewster


14 posted on 01/21/2016 7:10:04 AM PST by Mechanicos
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Where did it all go wrong? My bet is on centuries of first-cousin marriages.


15 posted on 01/21/2016 7:11:11 AM PST by To Hell With Poverty (All freedom must be transported in bottles of 3 oz or less. - Freeper relictele)
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To: Mechanicos

“Other than that, what has Christianity EVER done for us?”


16 posted on 01/21/2016 7:11:31 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: C19fan

When you invade a country that is making tech progress, can you call that progress your own?


17 posted on 01/21/2016 7:12:47 AM PST by Scooter100
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To: wbarmy

The problem wasn’t “hoarding”, it was the collapse of the Western Empire because of statism of the late Empire. The Eastern Empire had the same books and active scholars. As you mentioned, the Arab Muslims simply claimed achievements that weren’t theirs or built on the achievements of the Christian societies that they destroyed. The fading out of the “Golden Age” was just the fading out of the underlying Christian culture of the conquered lands. Muslims create nothing and can make nothing. BTW, the Arab conquerors often burned libraries because, as either the first or second caliph said, if a book is consistent with the Koran it is unnecessary, and if it isn’t it contains nothing of value.


18 posted on 01/21/2016 7:14:22 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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"The period between the 9th and 11th centuries AD, when Islam took hold of a band of territory strategy from Spain in the West through to what is now Pakistan, saw an extraordinary intellectual flowering.

Any extraordinary intellectual flowering that took place within any territory taken hold by Islam within the first two centuries was from pre-existing science and/or any lingering scholarship surviving the ritual elimination of jahiliyya (material destroyed because it did not conform to Islamic precedent) or from the dhimmi or recently reverted populations who maintained remnants of traditional scientific study.

There is little to no existence of proof of such 'scholarship' where none existed before, just as the decimation of the millions of castrated black slaves have no visible legacy remaining in modern day Arabia.

19 posted on 01/21/2016 7:15:46 AM PST by wtd
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To: C19fan

20 posted on 01/21/2016 7:16:06 AM PST by Mechanicos
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