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Apple sales set to slump in 2016 with no new products, analysts warn
News Corp Australia Network ^ | 12/27/2015 | Rod Chester

Posted on 12/27/2015 8:49:52 AM PST by Scutter

AFTER a year of big Apple releases, analysts are predicting a flat 2016 where the world's biggest tech company refines product lines rather than produces the next big thing.

Apple's share price has taken a battering in the past six months, with more than $220 billion slashed from the company's value as analysts look towards an era of smartphone saturation.

Morgan Stanley analyst Katy Huberty recently predicted that 2016 would be first time that iPhone sales would shrink, dropping by up to three per cent.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; business; technology
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To: dhs12345
Not to worry there is planned obsolescence in Apple products. If a dead unreplaceable battery doesn’t obsolete your device, lack of OS support will.

Replacing batteries on Apple product is easy. . . and inexpensive to do, depending on where you do it. There are numerous places including Staples, Batteries are Us, Office Depot/OfficeMax, Apple Stores, Batteries Plus, and many online and store front repair places which can replace the batteries while you wait. I just had a Apple MacBook Air battery replaced at the Apple Store in Sacramento's Arden Fair. . . it took 20 minutes.

As I mentioned above, our twenty or so iMacs, MacBook Airs, and MacPros at my office are perfectly capable of upgrading to OS X.11 El Capitan with full Apple support despite being up to eight years old. We are not replacing them due to any built-in obsolescence factor intended in their design by Apple. The only reason they are being replaced, and sold to other users who will get more years of useful life out of them, is that the software our office requires has evolved to be more complex and requires more speed in the processors to adequately do the job. For example it requires much more horsepower on the workstations for rendering alternative views in real-time in the 3D radiology we now use. So there really isn't any lack of OS support that will obsolete modern Macs.

In iOS devices, they do have a obsolescence that comes with time. But every mobile cellular device still works with the capability of its hardware. It is the hardware that cannot support the advances in the OS. That is not planned obsolescence. No one can plan for future advances in hardware capability.

22 posted on 12/27/2015 10:54:58 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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To: redfreedom
If something still serves my needs to perfection, I just think it’s a gross waste of money if not sheer lunacy to get something new just because it’s new. There is no logic to it.

I fully agree. I've owned my current phone for about a year, and only bought it because my old one was run over by a Humvee. After 5+ years of working just fine.

My Lenovo is about 3 years old, and only bought this one because my old Dell didn't have the hardware to handle newer games. That guy is about 8 years old and still runs just fine too!
23 posted on 12/27/2015 11:04:44 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Scutter

Maybe because the have a monopoly on their own products. They can do pretty much whatever they want.


24 posted on 12/27/2015 11:16:16 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Swordmaker
Replacing batteries easy??? You have to ship it to a company that does it. Plus you have to pay for the shipping and the labor to do it. “Why not just put the money into a new one” is the logic and Apple is more than happy to sell you one.

Most not so techie savy people just buy the newest.

A removable battery device - swap it out in 10 seconds and best of all you can do it yourself. I wouldn't recommend doing it yourself with apple device. Way too complicated for the average person - fragile flex circuits, etc. Like trying to fold a map.

I estimate that I have 500 reasons to complain — a bone pile of apple Ipods and ipads worth $500. Mostly dead batteries and one obsolete Ipad. And I am being fair. I would happily forgive and forget if Apple gives me $500 on my next purchase. Anything less is unacceptable and I will continue to avoid Apple.

BTW I'd be happy to ship the dead and useless devices to Apple for a credit of $500.

Please let me know where.

25 posted on 12/27/2015 11:41:12 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Swordmaker

That sucks this Christmas I am getting a Dell


26 posted on 12/27/2015 11:44:28 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Swordmaker

I posted the best comments at that thread.


27 posted on 12/27/2015 11:45:35 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dhs12345

TRUTH! and a good testament to the all around greed and cynicism from the fags at APPLE ___________ SWORD and other golden calf worshipers will be riding that turkey down in 2016!!!!!!

AAPL! will hit 73! By next year at this time


28 posted on 12/27/2015 11:53:18 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Scutter
I'm just curious how everybody seems to know that Apple will not be releasing new products in 2016.

When iPod was released in 2001; iPhone in 2007; and iPad in 2010, nobody seemed to know any of those were coming.

29 posted on 12/27/2015 11:59:07 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Swordmaker

That may be true for OS-X, It was certainly the case for my Macbook Pro when I still had it; I held onto until it met with an unfortunate accident that damaged the case (it was still mostly woorking, though!). But OTOH, I have a PC that I built which is 9 years old now. still going strong and running a new release of Ubuntu Linux just fine.

But IMHO Apple is really bad about pushing out software updates in the mobile space (iPad, iPhone) that make the old generation products slow and in some cases unusable. I moved away from the iPhone when they pushed out an OS update that rendered my iPhone 3gs virtually unusable. I am still using this iPad Air, but I am not very happy with Safari performance since a few OS releases ago.


30 posted on 12/27/2015 12:00:10 PM PST by Scutter
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To: Swordmaker

Sorry, but that’s a load of crapola. Replacing the battery in a Lumia 640 is something the end user can do. No Apple mobile products fall into that category. Again, this isn’t an Apple thing; my Lumia 920 does not have a user replaceable battery either.


31 posted on 12/27/2015 12:02:56 PM PST by Scutter
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To: Scutter

Here’s some free advice for Apple.

Offer a new Mac in the vein of a mid-tower PC, alongside the iMac. Modular, processors up to i7, expandable/upgradable and finally support some version of SLI for gaming. Offer state of the art GPUs from both NVIDIA and AMD.

For a company supporting green efforts, your PCs are not as reusable as they could be!


32 posted on 12/27/2015 12:23:49 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: dennisw

“AAPL! will hit 73! By next year at this time”

I’m willing to make a side bet on that. Let me know if you’re interested. :-)


33 posted on 12/27/2015 12:25:24 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: dhs12345
Not to worry there is planned obsolescence in Apple products. If a dead unreplaceable battery doesn't obsolete your device, lack of OS support will.

So tell me, since you're an expert on Apple products, which Apple products did you own that got obsoleted by a dead unreplaceble battery? (Crickets.) Thought so, you're making it up.

My wife still uses her 2010 iPad daily. Original battery going strong for over 5-1/2 years. Still does everything she needs it to do, still has OS support. If the battery were to ever weaken, there are plenty of places that will swap in a new battery. Same goes for my iPad 2, works just fine after years of use. I still use an iPod that's over ten years old, not obsolete. How's your Zune doing? I have 15-year-old Macs that still work on the Internet, although I enjoy the speed of more recent processors. But most people want faster more recent machines, not just Apple users. There is less obsolescence in Apple products than most others in the marketplace. Sort of like Toyotas, they stick around trouble-free for many years.

34 posted on 12/27/2015 12:34:34 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Scutter

Now you’ve done it.

The only way you could have known I still ride around in a buggy with our home lit by candles is that you have been spying on us.

Pay back is not going to be pleasant.


35 posted on 12/27/2015 12:36:36 PM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: Scutter
Again, this isn't an Apple thing; my Lumia 920 does not have a user replaceable battery either.

Certainly, applies to a lot of manufacturers. Ever notice there are a lot of Microsoft Surface articles about swapping failed batteries? A lot, considering it's only been out a couple years (my iPad batteries still strong after 5 years). Lots of difficulty prying open the case, dealing with lots of screws, and prying a glued battery from within the case. Certainly not an easily swapped replaceable battery in the Surface.

36 posted on 12/27/2015 12:39:57 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Scutter

By the way, Microsoft Surface Pro battery replacement at (yikes!) $470.

http://www.winbeta.org/news/surface-pro-battery-replacement-will-cost-you-nearly-470-other-components-just-pricey


37 posted on 12/27/2015 12:42:43 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Scutter; redfreedom

Something you either learn or don’t.

The cutting edge sometimes does.

Now I am off to the local notgenius center to gat a customer’s iphone working again. The latest IOS9 “upgrade” bricked it for what we use it for. 30 mile trip one way and then I have to deal with some snot nose kid that wasn’t even born when I worked in Silicon Valley. Apple can kma.


38 posted on 12/27/2015 12:43:39 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: PreciousLiberty

83 and 1000$


39 posted on 12/27/2015 12:55:45 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Scutter
Buy an Orange PC

Blnk
40 posted on 12/27/2015 1:02:13 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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