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To: dhs12345
Not to worry there is planned obsolescence in Apple products. If a dead unreplaceable battery doesn’t obsolete your device, lack of OS support will.

Replacing batteries on Apple product is easy. . . and inexpensive to do, depending on where you do it. There are numerous places including Staples, Batteries are Us, Office Depot/OfficeMax, Apple Stores, Batteries Plus, and many online and store front repair places which can replace the batteries while you wait. I just had a Apple MacBook Air battery replaced at the Apple Store in Sacramento's Arden Fair. . . it took 20 minutes.

As I mentioned above, our twenty or so iMacs, MacBook Airs, and MacPros at my office are perfectly capable of upgrading to OS X.11 El Capitan with full Apple support despite being up to eight years old. We are not replacing them due to any built-in obsolescence factor intended in their design by Apple. The only reason they are being replaced, and sold to other users who will get more years of useful life out of them, is that the software our office requires has evolved to be more complex and requires more speed in the processors to adequately do the job. For example it requires much more horsepower on the workstations for rendering alternative views in real-time in the 3D radiology we now use. So there really isn't any lack of OS support that will obsolete modern Macs.

In iOS devices, they do have a obsolescence that comes with time. But every mobile cellular device still works with the capability of its hardware. It is the hardware that cannot support the advances in the OS. That is not planned obsolescence. No one can plan for future advances in hardware capability.

22 posted on 12/27/2015 10:54:58 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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To: Swordmaker
Replacing batteries easy??? You have to ship it to a company that does it. Plus you have to pay for the shipping and the labor to do it. “Why not just put the money into a new one” is the logic and Apple is more than happy to sell you one.

Most not so techie savy people just buy the newest.

A removable battery device - swap it out in 10 seconds and best of all you can do it yourself. I wouldn't recommend doing it yourself with apple device. Way too complicated for the average person - fragile flex circuits, etc. Like trying to fold a map.

I estimate that I have 500 reasons to complain — a bone pile of apple Ipods and ipads worth $500. Mostly dead batteries and one obsolete Ipad. And I am being fair. I would happily forgive and forget if Apple gives me $500 on my next purchase. Anything less is unacceptable and I will continue to avoid Apple.

BTW I'd be happy to ship the dead and useless devices to Apple for a credit of $500.

Please let me know where.

25 posted on 12/27/2015 11:41:12 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Swordmaker

That sucks this Christmas I am getting a Dell


26 posted on 12/27/2015 11:44:28 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Swordmaker

Sorry, but that’s a load of crapola. Replacing the battery in a Lumia 640 is something the end user can do. No Apple mobile products fall into that category. Again, this isn’t an Apple thing; my Lumia 920 does not have a user replaceable battery either.


31 posted on 12/27/2015 12:02:56 PM PST by Scutter
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