It Begins: Attorney Ann Coulter Says Ted Cruz Not Eligible

Article II ^ | November 13, 2015 | no author given

[firebrand]

First ballot access challenge.

That's all it says.

[WildHighlander57]

What would have happened if you didn’t apply for the certificate of citizenship?

[Yosemitest]

"Obama's father was here legally on a student visa."

On A STUDENT VISA ... Barack Obama Sr. was a "Transient Alien" because he did NOT intend on residing in the United States permanently.
Barack Obama Sr. was a dual citizen of Great Britain and Kenya, and NEVER a United States Citizen.

Read British National Archives Show Son Born To Obama Sr. In 1961 In Kenya!

His mother could NOT impart U.S. citizen to her son, Barack Obama II, because she did NOT meet the legal requirements to do so, at the time her son was born IN the Coast Provincial General Hospital, MOMBASA, KENYA at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961.
Democrats knew this and tried to eliminate the "Natural Born Citizen" requirement at least 8 times BEFORE Obama won his election in 2008.

Obama is NOT a United States Citizen, and is NOT a LEGAL IMMIGRANT.
He has no VISA allowing him into this country.
Barack Hussein Obama II IS ILLEGAL !

"Cruz ... his father was not a US citizen. "

The ENORMOUS DIFFERENCE is that TED CRUZ's FATHER DID INTEND ON RESIDING IN the United States permanently.

"Natural born citizen issue. "

Well, what does the law say?

The ABC's of Immigration: Citizenship Rules for People Born Outside the United States

All persons born in the United States are citizens of the United States (with the very minor exception of certain children of diplomatic personnel).
This is perhaps the only simple rule of US citizenship.
One of the most complicated areas of US citizenship law involves the passage of citizenship to children born outside the US to one or more US citizen parents.
While naturalized US citizens are treated like natural born citizens,
which includes those who are deemed citizens even when born outside the US, in almost every respect,
there is one important office that only natural born citizens can hold - the presidency
(though expect to see efforts in Congress to change this if Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger decides to run for President).
Also, a person who is a citizen from birth cannot be denaturalized (though denaturalization rarely ever occurs).

The rules determining when such children are citizens are extremely detailed,
and vary a great deal depending on when the child was born since the laws changed several times in the 20th century.

...

What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986?

Again, children born abroad to two US citizen parents were US citizens at birth, as long as one of the parents resided in the US at some point before the birth of the child.

When one parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national,
the US citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child,
with five of the years after the age of 14.
An EXCEPTION FOR PEOPLE SERVING IN THE MILITARY was created
by considering time spent outside the US on military duty as time spent in the US.

While there were initially rules regarding what the child must do to retain citizenship,
amendments since 1952 have ELIMINATED these requirements.

Children born out of wedlock to a US citizen mother were US citizens
if the mother was resident in the US for a period of one year prior to the birth of the child.
Children born out of wedlock to a US citizen father acquired US citizenship
only if legitimated before turning 21.

So HOW does Ted Cruz's situation apply to this Law ?

The term "natural born citizen" refers to whether the person was a citizen at birth or became a citizen through naturalization.

“Senator Cruz became a U.S. citizen at birth, and he never had to go through a naturalization process after birth to become a U.S. citizen,” said spokeswoman Catherine Frazier.
... The U.S. Constitution allows only a “natural born” American citizen to serve as president.
Most legal scholars who have studied the question agree that includes an American born overseas to an American parent, such as Cruz.

When Ted Cruz was born, his parents were "IN WEDLOCK".
They married, moved to Calgary, Alberta, and in late 1970 had their first and only child, Rafael Edward Cruz.
Cruz was born on December 22, 1970 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada where his parents, Eleanor Elizabeth Darragh Wilson and Rafael Bienvenido Cruz.

Cruz's mother was born and raised in Wilmington, Delaware, in a family of three quarters Irish and one quarter Italian descent.
Eleanor Darragh, mother of Ted Cruz, was raised in Delaware, graduated from a Catholic High School (1952) in the U.S., as well as Rice University (1956), so clearly she meets the residency requirements.

Cruz's father, who was born in 1939 in Matanzas, Cuba, "suffered beatings and imprisonment for protesting the oppressive regime" of dictator Fulgencio Batista.

Source
... 74-Year-old Rafael Bienvenido Cruz:

"I came to this country legally," Cruz's father says.
"I came here with a legal visa, and ... every step of the way, I have been here legally."


In an interview near his home outside Dallas, the elder Cruz says that as a teenager, he fought alongside Fidel Castro's forces to overthrow Cuba's U.S.-backed dictator, Fulgencio Batista.
He was caught by Batista's forces, he says, and jailed and beaten before being released.
It was 1957, and Cruz decided to get out of Cuba by applying to the University of Texas.
Upon being admitted, he adds, he got a four-year student visa at the U.S. Consulate in Havana.

"Then the only other thing that I needed was an exit permit from the Batista government," Cruz recalls.
"A friend of the family, a lawyer friend of my father, basically bribed a Batista official to stamp my passport with an exit permit."

The Rafael Cruz that his son Ted portrays is a kind of Cuban Horatio Alger
- - arriving in the U.S. with only $100, learning English on his own and washing dishes seven days a week for 50 cents an hour.

"Since he liked to eat seven days a week, he worked seven days a week, and he paid his way through the University of Texas," Ted Cruz says
of his father, "and then ended up getting a job and eventually going on to start a small business and to work towards the American dream."

Only he did that in Canada, where Ted was born.
His father went there after having earlier obtained political asylum in the U.S. when his student visa ran out.
He then got a green card, he says, and married Ted's mother, an American citizen.
The two of them moved to Canada to work in the oil industry.

"I worked in Canada for eight years," Rafael Cruz says. "And while I was in Canada, I became a Canadian citizen."

The elder Cruz says he renounced his Canadian citizenship when he finally became a U.S. citizen in 2005 -
48 years after leaving Cuba.
Why did he take so long to do it?
"I don't know. I guess laziness, or - I don't know," he says.

Peter Spiro, a legal expert on U.S. citizenship at Temple University, says Rafael Cruz followed "sort of a zigzag path to citizenship."
Spiro says Cruz's multicountry odyssey did not follow traditional models for immigration.

Citizenship Through Naturalization is different than Citizenship Through Parents, and you need to understand the requirements.
For a better understanding of both, go to those links.

Watch these "YouTube Videos" and form your own opinion.



Ted Cruz, and Principles Over Winning | "Glenn Beck Program" ( 2:24 )


Ted Cruz is just getting started ( 4:33 )


Ted Cruz Announces His 2016 Presidential Run ( 2:06 )

[kabar]

LOL. You sound like a birther.

Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, to a "U.S. citizen mother and a Cuban immigrant father", giving him dual Canadian-American citizenship. Cruz applied to formally renounce his Canadian citizenship and ceased being a citizen of Canada, on May 14, 2014. Professor Chin , former Solicitor General Paul Clement, and former Acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal, and Professor Peter Spiro of Temple University Law School believe Cruz meets the constitutional requirements to be eligible for the presidency. Professor McManamon (believes generally that natural-born citizens must be born in the United States, which would make Cruz ineligible. Orly Taitz, Larry Klayman, and Mario Apuzzo, who each filed multiple lawsuits challenging Obama's eligibility, have asserted Cruz is not eligible.

[Yosemitest]

"Professor McManamon (BELIEVES generally that natural-born citizens must be born in the United States, which would make Cruz ineligible. "

That a wacky source you're quoting.
I'll take the REAL experts, and not some LIBERAL IDIOT of a school professor !

[Yosemitest]

"You sound like a birther."

You're the ONE who's trying to DISQUALIFY a qualified candidate because of his BIRTH.

Take a SERIOUS LOOK at the links below.
DID I write those Congressional Bills trying to CHANGE and REMOVE the BIRTH QUALIFICATIONS for United States President ?

HELL NO !

For those of you who don't know, remember this:

The Democrats knew about this BEFORE Obama was elected in 2008!

8 Congressional attempts from June 2004 to February 2008 to alter Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the US Constitution, proves to me

that the DNC knew that Obama was born in Kenya.

Read it for yourself.

What did Congress know about 'natural-born citizen'?
8 tries at eliminating requirement suggests organized strategy in place

Then look at these links.

1. June 11, 2003, Rep. Snyder, Vic (D) 108th congress, H.J.Res. 59

2. Sep 3, 2003, Rep. Conyers, John Jr., (D) H.J.Res. 67

3. Feb 25, 2005, Sen. Nickles, Don (R-OK) Senate Bill 2128, counter the democrats Natural Born Citizen Act - but Defines it wrong

4. Sep 15, 2004, Rep Dana Rohrabacher (D)(R-CA46) H.J.Res 104

5. Jan 4, 2005, Rep Conyers, John Jr., H.J.Res. 2 109th Congress

6. Feb 1, 2005, Rep Rohrabacher, Dana (D) (CA-46) H.J.Res.15

7. April 14, 2005, Rep. Snyder, Vic (D) (AR-2) H.J.Res. 42

8. Feb 28, 2008, Senator McCaskill, Claire (D) Attachment to a military bill Senate Bill 2678 Titled Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act.
DNC Presidential Candidate Senator Clinton and Senator Obama were cosponsors of this bill.

9. April 10, 2008, Sen McCaskill, Claire (D) (MO) Senate Res.511 passed declaring Senator John McCain a Natural Born Citizen.
But it was never in question. It was cosponsored by DNC Presidential Candidate Senator Clinton and Senator Obama.

Just before the 2008 election Barack Obama's election team spent $1.4 million blocking access to all of Obama's records.

Barack Hussein Obama II is UNCONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED.
There were 8 attempts by Democrats to try to "Change the Qualification Rules" BEFORE Obama was elected.
They KNOW Obama's ILLEGAL ... AND .... UNQUALIFIED!

[jpsb]

If all that is required to be a NBC is one US citizen parent then think of all the children of GIs stationed abroad that are now eligible to stand for president of the USA. Also think of all the children of American trophy wives in say Iran or Kuwait or Saudi Arabia that are now eligible to stand for president of the USA.What about all those Chinese anchor babes?

If Cruz is a natural born citizen then natural born citizen doesn't mean a damn thing any longer. Which is exactly what the Marxist globalists want. US citizen mean nothing we are all citizens of the world. And that great conservative constitutionalist Ted Cruz is doing their (Marxist, globalist) bidding. The hubris of the junior senator (only 2 years in the Senate) from Texas is extraordinary.

[kabar]

The issue has never been adjudicated in the courts. We need a definition of what constitutes a natural born citizen as mentioned in the Presidential eligibility qualifications in the Constitution. They didn't say citizen; they said "natural born."

Every president to date was either a citizen at the adoption of the Constitution in 1789 or born in the United States; of those in the latter group, every president except two (Chester A. Arthur and Barack Obama) had two U.S.-citizen parents.

Ted Cruz was born in a foreign country and had only one Amcit parent. He acquired Canadian citizenship at birth. Chester Arthur was born in Vermont to a Vermont-born mother and a father from Ireland, who was naturalized as a U.S. citizen in 1843, 14 years after Chester was born. Arthur tried to hide the fact that his father, though legally living in the US, was not a US citizen at the time of his birth.

The cases of Obama and Cruz are similar despite your protestations to the contrary. They point out the need to get a SCOTUS decision on the issue once and for all. I don't want the children of illegal aliens, tourists, or green card holders to be eligible for the Presidency. We need a legal definition of NBC as mentioned in the Constitution. You can't be intellectually honest by attacking Obama (correctly) and not expect Cruz to come under similar scrutiny.

On November 24 the state of NH will address the challenges to Cruz and Sanders being on the ballot in 2016. I expect NH to approve Cruz being on the ballot, but there will be other challenges. We need to resolve this issue in the courts ASAP.

[kabar]

The issue needs to be resolved in the courts. The sooner the better.

[Enlightened1]

Ann can think what she wants. Bottom line is this.

It will be

Trump/Cruz 2016

[jpsb]

Agreed but if Cruz is the nominee expect to see a lot of images like the one below

Don't kill the messager! I just warning folks to get prepared!

[Yosemitest]

WHY ?
Because IDIOTS who support the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" ( who SOLD OUT TO THE ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF )
won't stop their untenable and fraudulent accusations, until they are PROVED WRONG !

[kabar]

That is precisely why Cruz needs to address the issue sooner rather than later. McCain got a Senate resolution saying he was eligible. It was not a legal document but it did assure the public it was a non-issue. It also helped Obama to cover up his eligibility.

Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal have a problem as well. Some say neither Rubio nor Jindal is eligible because both were born (albeit in the United States) to parents who were not U.S. citizens at the time of their respective births.

[kabar]

who SOLD OUT TO THE ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF )

So why is Obama an "illegal alien?" His mother was an American citizen and he has a birth certificate saying he was born in America. Obama has never been naturalized and he carries a US Passport.

[jpsb]

Well at least the debate over NBC is happening now with conservatives. And you are correct the issue needs to be dealt with because if not the Rats will be brutal once they engage after the primaries.

[mlo]

"It is not a fact. Why do you think the 14th Amendment was written?"

It is. It was written to clearly extend the rules already in effect for everyone else to the newly freed slaves. As was acknowledged at the time, it only formalized what was already true for everyone else.

""Subject to the jurisdiction of" is there for a reason. Blacks were not considered citizens nor were American Indians. The idea of birthright citizenship was done by statute. It can be reversed thru a law passed by Congress."

No, birthright citizenship was already the norm, as it had been going back to England. And the 14th put it formally in the Constitution, not a statute.

"The children of accredited diplomats born in the US are not citizens. There are other exceptions under law."

The only exception is the "subject to the jurisdiction" one. That applies to the children of foreign diplomats and invading soldiers. People who are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of our laws.

"Can someone born in Puerto Rico or Guam become President? They are American citizens by birth. Why are they excluded from voting in Presidential elections?"

Yes, someone born in Puerto Rico can become President. Puerto Ricans are not prohibited from voting in Presidential elections. That don't have some form of defective citizenship. Puerto Rico doesn't have any electoral votes because it is not a state, so there's nothing for people in Puerto Rico to vote for.

If you move to Puerto Rico you won't have a vote for President either. If a Puerto Rican moves to your state then they can vote there.

"We have not resolved what the Founders meant by natural born citizen as it applies to being eligible for President and Vice President. The courts have never adjudicated it."

Not true. It's resolved, and never really been in doubt. Birthers think it's not resolved because they don't like the answer. But birthers twist all kinds of things to make things come out the way they want.

[Georgia Girl 2]

The only thing you need to know about Natural Born Citizen is that in 2008 McCain and Ofail both had eligibility problems so the two parties got together and basically changed the eligibility requirements by fiat. It will never be changed back.

If you believe that the intent of the founders was that a natural born citizen was a person born in America of two American citizens you would be right. The 14th amendment addresses naturalized citizens not natural born citizens So in effect Rubio, Jindal, and Cruz are not elibible but the Supreme Court has no curiosity about it as numerous lawsuits were tossed regarding Ofails elibibility. They don’t want to touch the issue with a 10 ft pole.

Its time to accept the fact that until or unless the Supreme Court decides to define natural born citizen as it pertains to the Constitution then Cruz is just as eligible as Barkey. Nobody is going to block his campaign for President.

[corlorde]

You summed it up nicely.

[firebrand]

Maybe not Cruz. He is creating a lot of animosity by stealing everything. Maybe Sessions.

[Yosemitest]

"So why is Obama an "illegal alien?"
His mother was an American citizen and he has a birth certificate saying he was born in America.
Obama has never been naturalized and he carries a US Passport."

The "birth certificates saying he was born in America" have, ALL THREE OF THEM, been proven FAKES!
His "US Passport" that he carries is UNLAWFUL, because he has no legitimate American Birth Certificate, and he has no LEGITIMATE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.

Read

British National Archives Show Son Born To Obama Sr. In 1961 In Kenya!

His mother could NOT impart U.S. citizen to her son, Barack Obama II, because she did NOT meet the legal requirements to do so,
at the time her son was born IN the Coast Provincial General Hospital, MOMBASA, KENYA at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961.

Obama did not have an "Immigrant" father,
he had a "Transient Alien" father

Currently there is a new myth being propagated by Obots that Obama is the son of an immigrant.
They want the American people to think that he qualifies to be a natural born citizen as the child of an immigrant.
They are misleading the American people and what is evident is that
these are educated people with access to the facts,
which makes their misleading the public intentional.

Let's make one thing perfectly clear,
Obama's Father was never at any time an immigrant to the United States, by intention or by law.
He was a person of a "transient" nature to the United States.
For Obama's supporters to equate him to those who gave up home, friends and family to pursue the American Dream is to make a mockery to their contributions to making the United States their home.


B. H. Obama, Sr - B. H. Obama, II

On the US State Department's website on the page entitled Immigrants to the U.S. it clearly states,

Immigrating to the United States to live here permanently is an important, and complex decision.
This section provides information to help foreign citizens desiring to permanently immigrate to determine the visas, requirements, and related materials they will need to apply to immigrate to the United States.

Barrack Hussein Obama, Sr. had no intention of residing in the United States permanently.
He was here in the early 1960's because he was hand picked by the founder of the socialist, Nairobi People's Congress Party to come to the United States to study in preparation for Kenya's independence.

There are two types of student visas for the United States, F-1 and M-1. Both are classified as nonimmigrant visas by the U.S. State Department.

Like father, like son, both transients.
One a transient to the United States, the other a transient to the Oval Office.
In their passing through, both have left their mark.
One left a young woman with a baby to care for,
the other is damn determined to leave every baby for future generations with a debt that our children's children will never be able to repay.

True immigrants serve a special purpose in the United States, and that purpose is not for cheap labor.
They serve as a walking reminder to us that
our ancestors left their mother and father lands to give their children
the fruits of a dream they had,
where their children and their children’s children would live free
and be a part of the greatest experiment in the history of mankind.
There dream was to be Americans.
Obama and his supporters use of the term "immigrant" when describing his father
is insulting and demeaning to the sacrifices true immigrants to the United States have made over the past 200 plus years.