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It Begins: Attorney Ann Coulter Says Ted Cruz Not Eligible
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| November 13, 2015
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Posted on 11/17/2015 8:31:15 AM PST by firebrand
First ballot access challenge.
That's all it says.
TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: coulter; cruz; naturalborncitizen; teamromney
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To: AFret.
Cruz’s adult American citizen mother passes on Natural Born Citizenship to her children, regardless of place of birth.
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posted on
11/17/2015 10:24:35 AM PST
by
X-spurt
(CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
To: WENDLE
“It is my view that Cruz needs to get this out of the way with SCOTUS as soon as possible.”
Please tell us the pathway by which this would be considered by the SCOTUS? Do you also think that the SCOTUS can just pull up things they want to rule on?
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posted on
11/17/2015 10:33:11 AM PST
by
X-spurt
(CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
To: jpsb
The issue is bringing out IDIOTS who DO NOT KNOW the Constitution of the United States AND ITS AMENDMENTS ;
or either do NOT think that the AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION are just as GERMANE as the rest of the Constitution !
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posted on
11/17/2015 10:33:38 AM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: jpsb
No
it is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT ! I repost PROOF for those
you have INTENTIONALLY CONFUSED .
FACT: Cruzs fathers Cuban nationality at the time of Cruzs birth, is irrelevant, according to the law at that time,
just so long as he was a LEGAL Immigrant at the time of Ted Cruz's birth,
AND both of Ted Cruz's parents were legally married to each other.
What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986?
The 14th Amendment IS a part of the U.S. Constitution and states in SECTION 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
So, under that power to legislate, Congress legislated and the President signed into law: When ONE parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national,the US citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child,with five of the years after the age of 14.
... While there were initially rules regarding what the child must do to retain citizenship,amendments since 1952 HAVE ELIMINATED THESE REQUIREMENTS.
When Ted Cruz was born, his parents were "IN WEDLOCK".
They married, moved to Calgary, Alberta, and in late 1970 had their first and only child, Rafael Edward Cruz.
Cruz was born on December 22, 1970 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada where his parents, Eleanor Elizabeth Darragh Wilson and Rafael Bienvenido Cruz.
Cruz's mother was born and raised in Wilmington, Delaware, in a family of three quarters Irish and one quarter Italian descent.
Eleanor Darragh, mother of Ted Cruz, was raised in Delaware, graduated from a Catholic High School (1952) in the U.S., as well as Rice University (1956),so clearly she meets the residency requirements.
Source
In 1957, Rafael Bienvenido Cruz (Ted Cruz's father) decided to get out of Cuba by applying to the University of Texas.
Upon being admitted, he adds, he got a four-year student visa at the U.S. Consulate in Havana.
"Since he liked to eat seven days a week, he worked seven days a week, and he paid his way through the University of Texas," Ted Cruz says of his father, "and then ended up getting a job and eventually going on to start a small business and to work towards the American dream."
Only he did that in Canada, where Ted was born.
His father went there after having earlier obtained political asylum in the U.S. when his student visa ran out.
He then got a green card, he says, and married Ted's mother, an American citizen.
The two of them moved to Canada to work in the oil industry.
"I worked in Canada for eight years," Rafael Cruz says. "And while I was in Canada, I became a Canadian citizen."
The elder Cruz says he renounced his Canadian citizenship when he finally became a U.S. citizen in 2005 48 years after leaving Cuba.
Why did he take so long to do it?"I don't know. I guess laziness, or I don't know," he says.
So there is the law for the time Ted Cruz was born,
AND HOW Ted Cruz's PARENTS fulfilled ALL those requirements of the law that time, for Ted Cruz to be a "Natural Born Citizen".
Ted Cruz did NOT NEED a Court and a Judge to "Nationalize" him.
Senator Cruz became a U.S. citizen at birth, and he never had to go through a naturalization process after birth to become a U.S. citizen, said spokeswoman Catherine Frazier.
... The U.S. Constitution allows only a natural born American citizen to serve as president.
Most legal scholars who have studied the question agree that includes an American born overseas to an American parent, such as Cruz.
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posted on
11/17/2015 10:36:28 AM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: kosciusko51
No, I didn’t think that at all, thanks.
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posted on
11/17/2015 10:40:17 AM PST
by
miss marmelstein
(Richard the Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
To: X-spurt
Cruzâs adult American citizen mother passes on Natural Born Citizenship to her children, regardless of place of birth.
Link? Two citizen parents does not apply?
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posted on
11/17/2015 10:41:10 AM PST
by
AFret.
To: kabar
The Courts need to rule on it. I would prefer that Congress do the clarifying.
I would also prefer that when they do they use a very strict definition of "natural born."
Because I think a loosey-goosey interpretation is very dangerous to the republic.
But again, I'd rather that our elected representatives did the clarifying, not the courts.
To: Yosemitest
Children born in the US of illegal alien parents don't have to go thru the naturalization process; children born to green card holders do not have to go thru the naturalization process; children born to tourists do not have to go thru the naturalization process. They are all American citizens thru birthright citizenship (jus solis.)
Are they all considered to be eligible to be President of the United States under the Constitution, i.e., natural born citizens?
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posted on
11/17/2015 10:46:41 AM PST
by
kabar
To: chris37
I doubt that Karl Rove has financially supported Ted Cruz, as I have.
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posted on
11/17/2015 10:49:50 AM PST
by
Theo
(May Christ be exalted above all.)
To: kabar
And WHAT DOES THAT have to do with this debate ?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING !
So there is the law for the time Ted Cruz was born,
AND HOW
Ted Cruz's PARENTS fulfilled ALL those requirements of the law that time,
for Ted Cruz to be a "Natural Born Citizen".
Ted Cruz did NOT NEED a Court and a Judge to "Nationalize" him.
Senator Cruz became a U.S. citizen at birth, and he never had to go through a naturalization process after birth to become a U.S. citizen, said spokeswoman Catherine Frazier.
... The U.S. Constitution allows only a natural born American citizen to serve as president.
Most legal scholars who have studied the question agree that includes an American born overseas to an American parent, such as Cruz.
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posted on
11/17/2015 10:52:14 AM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: EternalVigilance
You saw what Congress did with the Resolution on McCain (post 100). I am not too sanguine that Congress will pass something that will pass Constitutional muster. In any event, whatever Congress passes could be challenged in the courts.
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posted on
11/17/2015 10:52:47 AM PST
by
kabar
To: hoosiermama
“JIM Robertson”
[Snicker]
Anyway. Wow. What a non sequitur reply, in just about every way.
Trump’s your man. I get it. Everyone else must be squished.
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posted on
11/17/2015 10:53:10 AM PST
by
Theo
(May Christ be exalted above all.)
To: jpsb
One thing we HAVE to give nobama and the Regressives, they are smart enough to game the Constitution to work against America.
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posted on
11/17/2015 10:55:24 AM PST
by
X-spurt
(CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
To: kabar
Believe me, there are few who have less confidence in this entire Congress, and in the courts, than I do.
And still, I think Congress should clarify the matter.
If the courts ever find an opportunity to chime in, that’s their prerogative, I suppose.
But in the end it is We the People who cast the votes and elect the electors, and Congress who is constitutionally responsible for tallying them. The courts are virtual bystanders to that process, ideally.
Notwithstanding Bush vs. Gore and rare court cases of that sort when the courts are asked to play referee.
To: Yosemitest
And WHAT DOES THAT have to do with this debate ? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ! It has everything to do with it. It is the law of the land now and was then. Cruz was born of one US citizen parent in Canada, which also confers birthright citizenship automatically on Cruz. In essence, Cruz had dual nationality at the time. He only recently, in writing, renounced any claim to Canadian citizenship claiming he did not know he could opt for Canadian citizenship. He could have applied for a Canadian passport in much the same way that Obama could have applied for a Kenyan/British passport since his father was a citizen of Kenya.
The issue I raise is that if you use the criterion that a NBC under the Constitution means any US citizen who does not require naturalization to become a citizen, then this opens the door for the US born children of illegal aliens, green card holders, and tourists. All such children are US citizens at birth.
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posted on
11/17/2015 11:01:38 AM PST
by
kabar
To: Theo
You still sound like Karl Rove though.
Exactly like him.
What exactly is the point in belittling Trump supporters?
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posted on
11/17/2015 11:03:43 AM PST
by
chris37
(heartless)
To: AFret.
Only one parent is required being a citizen.
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posted on
11/17/2015 11:03:57 AM PST
by
X-spurt
(CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
To: EternalVigilance
It becomes a matter of standing. I suppose the Dem nominee or another Rep candidate could challenge Cruz's edibility to hold the office. The fact that McCain asked to have it clarified by the Senate and that Tribe and Olson wrote their opinion on the matter is telling. Even in Senate Resolution 511, Congress admitted that the matter has not been resolved;
Whereas the term âânatural born Citizenââ, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;
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posted on
11/17/2015 11:07:01 AM PST
by
kabar
To: firebrand
I no longer post pics of Ann, I post pics of conservatives instead and much prettier.
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posted on
11/17/2015 11:13:22 AM PST
by
cpdiii
(Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
To: Theo
Actually Theo. I’ve vetted Trump — over 100 threads) Carly ( who goes way back with Rove) ; Dr Ben ( who has been Trumps friend for decades and lives near him in Florida. Look into their work on St Judes foundation ) CRUZ, Bush and looked into a few others who have little background available Could give you trivia pro and con on any one of them.
I probably know more about Obamas white family than you’d be interested in ( he inherited millions in 1971 from great grandfather check out his schedule E on tax form— reason enough to not pass Keystone)
When you’ve done as much research let me know and we can have an intelligent conversation on the attributes of each candidate , their background and family histories
Trump is the only candidate taking on the GOPee directly. Yes I support that big time! Stopped contributions to them years ago
Because I post information about a candidate is purely to pass on information
Take it you are a CRUZ person.
CRUZ has many fine attributes. There are however a few issues he needs to address 1. His birth 2. His wife’s previous employment. 3 work permits for foreigners. These are going to be targeted by the D if he gets nomination Now is the time to deal with issues not hide them. Not just for him but for all candidates
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