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Why We Get Fat
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| Gary Taubes; CTV Santa Cruz County
Posted on 11/06/2015 6:17:58 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
I believe genetics and biology (metabolism rates, etc) play a big role in many cases. However, one thing for sure, you do not lose weight by eating indiscriminately like there’s no tomorrow.
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posted on
11/06/2015 8:15:18 PM PST
by
ETL
(Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
To: WhiskeyX
An hour and 10 minutes of history. Got it!
I seem to have totally missed the solution...would watching the last 10 minutes again explain what a “diet” might be?
Empty the fat receptors more quickly by decreasing insulin.
Carbohydrates the key...I missed the final message.
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posted on
11/06/2015 8:17:25 PM PST
by
3D-JOY
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To: WhiskeyX
I switched to a Ketogenic way of eating 21 months ago and don’t intend to ever go back to the standard American diet. As a result, I’ve shed over 60 pounds.
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posted on
11/06/2015 8:19:07 PM PST
by
bluetick
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I’m almost 80 and never stood in line to pay a bill...checks and a 3 cent stamp did it all! Even in the early 1950’s!
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posted on
11/06/2015 8:26:57 PM PST
by
3D-JOY
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To: bramps
“You can’t do us a favor and just type out the pertinent parts?”
This video is more than 1 hour and 10 minutes in length, and it is just one of many to come. [Chuckle] I don’t think a Reader’s Digest version is going to suffice. It’s unfortunate that you don’t have time enough to see them, because there is a lot of information in them whether you choose to agree with their content or not.
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posted on
11/06/2015 8:31:03 PM PST
by
WhiskeyX
To: WhiskeyX
I’m missing part of the lesson...at least the understanding.
It seems the other 50 or so posts are all giving advice or challenging you with “old” conclusions.
I realize accepting something “proven”, or advanced in theory, in the 60’s and forgotten or blindly rejected is also old news.
Ask any person trying to gain weight...does eating more add weight? So how can the opposite be true either?
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posted on
11/06/2015 8:37:07 PM PST
by
3D-JOY
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To: ETL
“However, one thing for sure, you do not lose weight by eating indiscriminately like thereâs no tomorrow.”
Of course not, but it is a horrible disservice to accuse other obese people of being gluttons when in fact they are nothing of the sort and eat far less calories than their body mass actually is supposed to require to maintain or lose weight. Those individuals can reduce their caloric intake down to 900 calories per day and still gain additional weight to add to their existing 250 LB weight.
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posted on
11/06/2015 8:38:26 PM PST
by
WhiskeyX
To: rollo tomasi
There's a lot of truth in that graphic.
As a retired air traffic controller, I understand the "Stress" part of that equation.
I ask a "Flight Surgeon" once about cortisone and the commercials on TV at that time (1990s), and if it was all B.S.
He said "No, its real. It's one way that the body deals with stress, and it causes the body to produce more "fat cells" to store food for the body to burn later to deal with stress.
Now another problem with OBESITY that you have to deal with as you get older is medicines.
I'm diabetic type II, and I ask the doctor recently, why when I cut back on my food intake, I can't loose weight.
He said it was the insulin shots and the meds that I have to take to control my blood sugar.
He also said that it gets harder to control over time.
The long and the short of it is,
Take your health seriously at a young age and watch it closely,
because once you get a health problem,it's harder to get out of it, than it is to avoid having the health problem,
to start with.
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posted on
11/06/2015 8:38:43 PM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: All
Does anyone know what the current insulin # is that recommended?
I know friends who complain about 190 and higher. Just skip bread and sugar in coffee...except at Red lobster they eat 3 of the four rolls before I get my first one quartered and eaten. !!
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posted on
11/06/2015 8:41:45 PM PST
by
3D-JOY
To: WhiskeyX
Agree with your post, however I gave up on all the "TCA" experts here.
I would add that Metabolic Syndrome will also manifest itself in an even worsening state of health for the American population. That is when Type 2 diabetes starts to develop into Type 3. That is ignoring all the other insulin based inflammatory damage to the human body. Add in the madness of CoA reductase drugs and many people are in for a future of suffering.
For your reference I have been working on a medical grant for a pyruvate type disorder. I am looking closing at Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCT).
Medium-chain triglycerides
C8 MCT is particularly important as we age. It can be found at Amazon (like most of the world lately).
C8 MCT OIL - Caprylic Acid
Our Pseudo "exercise and small portions" experts are going to get a lot of people killed and cause a great deal of suffering.
There is a growing body of evidence that many neurological disorders, particularly with brain iron accumulation are in reality metabolic disorders. No amount of "exercise and small portions" would have prevented them. These disorders may all benefit from ketogenic diets with the inclusion of MCT 7, 8 and 10. There is also a growing body of evidence that a modified ketogenic diet may have prevented or reduced disease severity. Further, ketogenic diets have also been found to dramatically reduce brain injury during ischemic stroke.
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posted on
11/06/2015 8:42:37 PM PST
by
PA Engineer
(Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
To: Yosemitest
I controlled my husband’s Type 2 diabetes for several years. 4 small meals and 2 snacks...
One day he told the Dr. he was tired of the routine and The Dr. said well I can give you pills instead. It was all downhill from there.
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posted on
11/06/2015 8:46:03 PM PST
by
3D-JOY
To: Yosemitest
That is exactly correct. You’ll find the upcoming videos to be especially interesting in your case.
The vast majority of the medical community is locked into a set of standard practices which and medical school training which virtually guarantees Type II diabetics will slowly or quickly see their insulin and glucose control spiral out of control as they age no matter how hard they try to restrict calories, restrict sugars, and exercise like demons one or more hours per day. It is a vicious cycle where their pancreas is stimulated to produce ever more insulin in an ever increasingly failed effort to improve cellular insulin sensitivity, and remove glucose from the bloodstream. The cells reject the glucose erroneously identifying the glucose as a foreign substance triggering an immune reaction and an inflammatory response, and they send messages to the brain signaling the onset of starvation and a need to slow the metabolism down and store all available fats into the adipose tissues as a reserve for a period of famine, while also signaling the need for increased hunger for more sweets to meet the erroneous starvation crisis.
As the insulin levels keep going up, the insulin locks up the fats in the adipose tissues ever more tightly, and refuse to release them to be used up as fuel. So, the adipose tissues just keep adding fat and refuse to release the fat. when the metabolism demands ever more calories energy and fails to get that energy from additional inputs of sugars and other carbohydrates, the metabolism turns to the protein found in the muscles, dissolves the muscles and uses the proteins to synthesize glucose to put into the bloodstream, raising the blood sugars again, while wasting away the muscles. Some of the muscle being wasted away is the heart muscle, leading to increased risk of heart failures.
The diabetic medications which treat the disease by increasing insulin to remove glucose from the blood also insures weight gain, insures wasting of muscles, and inhibits the ability to remove fat from adipose tissues. Unless this vicious cycle can be broken, it is only a matter of time before the increasing weight caused by the increasing insulin results in critical medical emergencies and death. However, one way of breaking this vicious spiral has been used by some people to reverse the cycle, lose substantial weight, and regain much of their health.
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posted on
11/06/2015 9:02:20 PM PST
by
WhiskeyX
To: 3D-JOY
“Does anyone know what the current insulin # is that recommended?”
It varies according to sources. Maximum fasting levels may be recommended to be no more than 93 to 100 mg/dl. Maximum post prandial levels may sometimes be recommended to be no more than 120 mg/dl for a non-diabetic person. Some authorities are now warning about blood glucose levels above 93 mg/dl resulting in alarmingly higher percentages of dementia, Parkinson’s Disease, Altzheiner’s Disease, and an assortment of other neurological disorders as a person ages. Conversely, nutritional ketosis seems to allow many individuals to sustain lower than usual minimum blood glucose levels >80 mg/dl as a consequence of being able to use the ketones from fat to fuel the brain and other metabolic functions.
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posted on
11/06/2015 9:18:46 PM PST
by
WhiskeyX
To: WhiskeyX
I’ve been looking for some answers for over an hour...too tired now...check on them tomorrow...
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posted on
11/06/2015 9:20:22 PM PST
by
3D-JOY
To: WhiskeyX
Good post and explanation. Something else for your reference. Moses Maimonides stated this over 800 years ago.
No disease that can be treated by diet should be treated with any other means.
People need to heed this advice more today than ever before.
It may be hard to believe that our current medical crisis goes back to the advent of electricity. Proctor and Gamble had to do something with all that
candle wax.
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posted on
11/06/2015 9:20:24 PM PST
by
PA Engineer
(Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
To: bramps
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posted on
11/06/2015 9:36:31 PM PST
by
JohnnyP
To: ladyjane
Not going to argue with you.
Compare the calories burned playing an hour of pinball with the calories burned playing an hour of Call of Duty.
People used to burn a lot more calories.
They used to eat a lot less calories.
QED, people used to be thinner.
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posted on
11/06/2015 9:38:28 PM PST
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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posted on
11/06/2015 9:41:25 PM PST
by
ponygirl
(An Appeal to Heaven.)
To: JohnnyP
To: WhiskeyX
Like I said, I'm a retired air traffic controller, and NOT a medical expert.
BUT ... I can read and learn from books.
Now that being said, I BELIEVE that given time, the body CAN heal itself ... IF you only know how to listen and HEED the signals it gives you.
I do NOT know HOW to do it, but I BELIEVE it CAN be done.
I also believe that the foods listed in the Old Testament as "clean" are a CLUE to good health.
I know from reading and experience that dark green vegetables cooked at low heat until at the taste you prefer, are a big help, and eaten raw are good for you ( micro-nutrients).
I know that extra virgin olive oil, and even some real fats, are good for diabetics (in moderation).
There are times, more lately than it use to be, that I want to throw all those meds into the trash, and just do it by myself.
Those meds keep me weak, and I hate them.
But when my body gets that overly hot sensation, and my muscles get that tired and a burning sensation, sometimes a couple of slices of 100 % whole wheat bread will help me to stop it.
But most of the time it won't, so I get out my insulin and take my shot.
Again ... I HATE IT !
Then there are other times, if I eat too many carbohydrates, or if it has been too long since I took my meds, I get the "sleepys" snd I can't stay awake.
I've learned that there's no point in fighting it, so I go lay down and take a nap.
Normally it takes about an hour and a half, to two hours before I wake up, and that's to a "bladder call" .
If I'm still sleepy, I go lay back down, but sometimes, if my schedule is way off, I'll try to fight it, and stay awake to get back on schedule.
Weight also can create a knee problem, and that will slow down the exercise part of the equation.
So again, IT IS EASIER TO 'PAY ATTENTION AND STAY HEALTHY' ... than it is to 'GET HEALTHY' ... !
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posted on
11/06/2015 10:18:49 PM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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