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Time for Trump to Take It To Carson On Illegal Immigration
10/15/2015 | self

Posted on 10/15/2015 11:03:08 AM PDT by conservativejoy

I am glad that Trump has not attacked Carson on a personal level. That would just be counter productive.

However, there is an avenue of attack that needs to be pursued. Carson has a very weak position on illegal immigration, suggesting that we adopt Canada's Guest Worker program.

Nowhere have I found any statement from Ben Carson indicating his willingness to enforce our immigration laws, which he calls immoral.

Are we really going to continue to support someone who does not realize how vital it is to our survival to regain and protect our sovereignty? Are we going to elect someone who allows illegal invasion to drain our resources and compromise our safety?

I hope that Trump or Cruz will challenge Ben Carson on this issue in the upcoming debate. I think many people supporting Carson do not know how dangerous his position is to our country.


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KEYWORDS: 2016election; bencarson; election2016; newyork; trump
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1 posted on 10/15/2015 11:03:08 AM PDT by conservativejoy
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>>our immigration laws, which he calls immoral

Does he call them immoral (present tense) or did he say that in the past? When did he last call them immoral?

Even George Washington once tried to get a commission in the British Army. People change. Circumstances change.


2 posted on 10/15/2015 11:08:33 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: conservativejoy

I didn’t know his views on our invader friends was like that - our immigration laws immoral?

Unless Mr. Carson means that they’re not tough enough; immoral in that way. Then he would have a point.


3 posted on 10/15/2015 11:09:13 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: conservativejoy

Most of Carson’s supporters don’t have illegal immigration as their #1 issue. EVERYone knows Trumps stance against illegal immigration. Carson supporters support Carson anyway, and a lot of it has to do with demeanor, background, style, history, and perceived prioritization of the two men’s agendas. If Trump wants to win those supporters over time, pounding against Carson on immigration won’t do it, even if it makes Trump supporters feel good.


4 posted on 10/15/2015 11:11:22 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: conservativejoy
Wishful thinking on your part. If you bothered to learn a thing about Carson, you would know this is nonsense

He did NOT call our Immigration laws immoral. What he actually said was allowing our current system of turning a blind eye to the illegals so they can be exploited for cheap labor is immoral.

“Is it moral for us, for example, to take advantage of cheap labor from illegal immigrants while denying them citizenship? I'm sure you can tell from the way I phrased the question that I believe we have taken the moral low road on this issue,” he wrote.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Ben_Carson_Immigration.htm

Carson has also said the United States should model its immigration reform after Canada's guest-worker program. “People already here illegally could apply for guest-worker status from outside of the country,” Carson wrote in November. “This means they would have to leave first.”

5 posted on 10/15/2015 11:12:23 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered")
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To: Bryanw92

He still says it and is still saying that instead of deportation we should adopt Canada’s Guest Worker Program.


6 posted on 10/15/2015 11:12:32 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

My guess is that Vice President Carson’s position may soon be very similar to President Trump’s position os shutting down illegal immigration and building that wonderful wall.


7 posted on 10/15/2015 11:13:58 AM PDT by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: conservativejoy

Still lying by Omission I see. Taking a comment out of context to claim it says something it does not is still a lie.


8 posted on 10/15/2015 11:14:07 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered")
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To: MNJohnnie

Yes, Carson believes it is immoral to deny them citizenship.


9 posted on 10/15/2015 11:14:27 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

Right. Do you even KNOW what Canada’s program is? You have to LEAVE the country and apply to legally re-enter Canada


10 posted on 10/15/2015 11:16:03 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered")
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To: MNJohnnie

Nothing is taken out of context. I could post the entire content of the link you provided and nothing changes the fact that Carson believes it is immoral to deny illegals citizenship. That’s what he said as plain as day.


11 posted on 10/15/2015 11:16:21 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

We already have a guest worker program.

We need to follow our laws.
Those that are caught after they were to leave should be banned from coming back for 10-20 years and notified if found back here there will be jail.

We have to greatly remove the dole from many people to get our country back under control.


12 posted on 10/15/2015 11:16:46 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“Carson supporters support Carson anyway, and a lot of it has to do with demeanor, background, style, history, and perceived prioritization of the two men’s agendas.”

Don’t forget, he’s also black, and there is a segment of Republicans who think if we nominate a black man, all those allegations of racism by libs will magically go away.


13 posted on 10/15/2015 11:16:55 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: MNJohnnie

Like I said, when Carson advocates upholding and enforcing our laws, get back to me.


14 posted on 10/15/2015 11:17:44 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy
"Yes, Carson believes it is immoral to deny them citizenship."
15 posted on 10/15/2015 11:18:03 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered")
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To: conservativejoy

Instead of clinging to the lie, learn the truth. I have posted the facts to you often enough.


16 posted on 10/15/2015 11:18:53 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered")
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To: conservativejoy

>>He still says it and is still saying that instead of deportation we should adopt Canada’s Guest Worker Program.

When did he call them immoral?


17 posted on 10/15/2015 11:19:22 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: WENDLE

Carson will not change his position. It is dictated by his faith. If he were Vice President and something happened to Trump, a President Carson would abandon and negate every positive thing Trump had done on illegal immigration.


18 posted on 10/15/2015 11:19:44 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

Note to all Readers.

If you look at conservativejoy posting history, you will see they are a passionate Cruz supporter.

Why do you suppose a Cruz supporter is urging Trump to attack Carson?


19 posted on 10/15/2015 11:21:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered")
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To: Dr. Sivana
EVERYone knows Trumps stance against illegal immigration.

I do not understand all of the details. Can you please update me on what Trump means by 'the really good ones' which will be allowed back? How will 'really good' be determined? In what capacity and for what duration will they be permitted to return? How many 'really good' people are estimated to be here illegally?
20 posted on 10/15/2015 11:21:48 AM PDT by posterchild
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