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Everybody is suddenly copying Microsoft
Business Insider ^ | October 4, 2015 | Matt Weinberger

Posted on 10/04/2015 1:49:51 PM PDT by Swordmaker

In 2012, when Microsoft first introduced the Surface Pro — a tablet that was also a laptop — it became an industry punch line.

“You can merge a toaster and a refrigerator, but that’s probably not going to be pleasing to anyone," quipped Apple CEO Tim Cook.

Nobody's laughing now. And Microsoft is looking more and more like a trendsetter.

Three years after Cook's jab, the Surface Pro 3 is selling strong — strong enough that Microsoft is expected to launch a much-anticipated Surface Pro 4 at a special event on Tuesday.

In the meantime, Apple and Google have started to pay attention. This past September saw both companies introduce tablet-laptop hybrids: the Apple iPad Pro and the Google Pixel C.

"Apple just admitted Microsoft is right," read a headline here on Business Insider. Another one described the Pixel C as a "Surface killer."

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: applepinglist; ipad; msn; surfacepro; surfacepro3; surfacepro4; tablet; windowspinglist
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I bought a Logitech Easy-Switch Keyboarf K811 about a month ago. Automatically syncs via Bluetooth to three separate devices. I use mine with my iPad 2, Apple TV, and iPhone. Excellent raised keys with super tactile and audible feedback...as good as any keyboard I’ve used. I’m typing this using the K8111 keyboard on my iPad 2. Highly recommended! $100 on Amazon.


21 posted on 10/04/2015 2:26:17 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“keyboarf” — LOL...still doesn’t fix all typos with silly autocorrect words. I think autocorrect gets turned off when using the Logitech keyboard.

I also discovered if I leave the keyboard on within 30 feet of the iPad, the on-screen keyboard is disabled because the iPad is still communicating to the Bluetooth keyboard. So you have to remember to turn off the keyboard if you want to switch to the on-screen keyboard. Also, there are three Bluetooth keys on the keyboard for fast switching between your devices.


22 posted on 10/04/2015 2:29:26 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Take IOS 9. It was supposed to be a leveling field, time to play catchup and stabilize things. Turns out it is nothing of the sort with two fixes issued in as many weeks.

The two updates were extremely minor. . . and fairly normal when you roll out a product to over 800 million iOS devices in the field despite all the beta testing you can possibly do. There comes a time when one stops testing and roll out or you never roll out ever.

iOS 9.0.1 fixed four minor issues:

• Fixes an issue where some users could not complete setup assistant after updating
• Fixes an issue where sometimes alarms and timers could fail to play
• Fixes an issue in Safari and Photos where pausing video could cause the paused frame to appear distorted
• Fixes an issue where some users with a custom APN setup via a profile would lose cellular data

And a week later, iOS 9.0.2 fixed a further five very minor issues:

• Fixes an issue with the setting to turn on or off app cellular data usage (a poor choice was made having to do with weak WIFI signal automatically switching to Cellular data usage by default)
• Resolves an issue that prevented iMessage activation for some users (primarily affected some iPhone 4s users with models made with a particular chip set)
• Resolves an issue where an iCloud Backup could be interrupted after starting a manual backup
• Fixes an issue where the screen could incorrectly rotate when receiving notifications (had to do with some notifications not handling too long a line without line breaks)
• Improves the stability of Podcasts (which were made with some third party podcast software)

Not a single one of these issues was a universal issue with iOS affecting all users. Not one. These are the exact kind of issues that are impossible to find in beta testing until the roll out to millions of customers using all sorts of combinations of software and configurations.

Meanwhile, in just five days from the release of iOS 9, more than half of all Apple Mobile users, over 350 million iOS users, have installed it with ZERO problems or issues and YOU are claiming there are apparently serious problems????

In the meantime, Apple has released OS X.11 El Capitan and that is faster and better than Yosemite in my experience of using it since I downloaded it and installed it. I totally disagree with your characterization of software "going down the toilet."

Exactly what software can you not replicate. . . or run on a Mac?

23 posted on 10/04/2015 2:36:49 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: TomServo

I think so! Apple iii may qualify too.


24 posted on 10/04/2015 2:39:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Thanks! Will check one out.


25 posted on 10/04/2015 2:47:35 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I hate those flat keyboards! Is there more of an “old-style” keyboard with raised keys that I can use with my iMac?

The one that Apple sold had full movement keys. . . and several aftermarket versions did as well.

26 posted on 10/04/2015 2:52:45 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

To try the idea of a laptop-tablet combo I purchased a Dell “2 in 1” about one year ago.

It has been updated to Win 10, and I like it for the price, which was under $400 for an 11.6” machine.


27 posted on 10/04/2015 2:57:12 PM PDT by truth_seeker (come with the outlws.)
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To: Secret Agent Man; TomServo
I think so! Apple iii may qualify too.

I think that what really may qualify is the infamous hockey puck mouse . . .


The late, unlamented Apple Hockey Puck Mouse

28 posted on 10/04/2015 3:00:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Secret Agent Man; TomServo
I think so! Apple iii may qualify too.

I think that what really may qualify is the infamous hockey puck mouse . . .


The late, unlamented Apple Hockey Puck Mouse

29 posted on 10/04/2015 3:00:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Try posting that while going through a cellular tower change. . . LOL!


30 posted on 10/04/2015 3:01:39 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Is there more of an “old-style” keyboard with raised keys that I can use with my iMac?

I brought one with me for my MacBook Pro. I got it at Walmart, and it is "Macally", USB. I think it was around $20 or less. Though I bought the 15" screen model, I use it with my 32" TV as an external monitor. Tastes great, less filling!


31 posted on 10/04/2015 3:02:34 PM PDT by WVKayaker (On Scale of 1 to 5 Palins, How Likely Is Media Assault on Each GOP Candidate?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Almost forgot to thank SunkenCiv for the heads up. . .


32 posted on 10/04/2015 3:03:23 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Funny, i never even knew they made this.


33 posted on 10/04/2015 3:06:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: WVKayaker

I’ll check it out! I really want one that’s more like an old typewriter style, with raised keys


34 posted on 10/04/2015 3:14:40 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Swordmaker

Yosemite went out the window with the change in SSD support.

They finally got that working far too late.

I won’t miss my MBP and 5s next year.


35 posted on 10/04/2015 3:15:18 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: PaForBush

Love my Pro 3!


36 posted on 10/04/2015 3:46:31 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: Swordmaker

Impressive copy and.paste. I see that all the time in developer forums where people are paid to contribute.


37 posted on 10/04/2015 3:58:17 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Da Coyote

Joke post?
Apple fanaticism is indeed a disease.
It is Apple that is now copying both the Surface cover keyboard and the Surface itself from Microsoft after first trashing it.


38 posted on 10/04/2015 4:03:45 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: WVKayaker

Using one just like that on my 27’’ iMac. (or is it 28”) Bought mine new on eBay and free shipping…


39 posted on 10/04/2015 4:57:56 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: Swordmaker

A 11” or 13.3” Chromebook is useful for people who want portability. Chromebooks have long battery lives.


40 posted on 10/04/2015 5:20:42 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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