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bkmk
Amazingly, crazy people both get psychotropic drugs and shoot people.
Coincidence <> Causation.
There’s enough “crazy” to go around that disentangling the psychotropic drug angle is gonna be near impossible.
Well, it's generally true that they only put people on anti-psychotic drugs if they are psychotic (i.e. crazy). It's like when they say "85% of people who drink diet soda are overweight". Sure, overweight people are the ones who diet (or try to), not skinny people. Correlation would be expected. Same here. If you find a crazy person and you discover they were on crazy-person drugs, well, I guess my takeaway isn't that the drugs caused it but rather that they don't work.
Another mass shooting, another round of nonscientific drivel by Scientology trolls.
Seems like we used to lock up (dangerously) crazy people both for their own good and the good of the community.
Granted, those institutions were often woefully mismanaged.
Yet I often wonder if maybe the idea was correct even if the implementation may have been flawed.
Every day on TV I see ads for drugs to combat a multitude of diseases and in the side effects they say "May cause suicidal thoughts".
Don't any of them cause homicidal thoughts?
That, to me should be as common as suicidal thoughts.
I think humans would be more prone to kill other people than to kill themselves. -Tom
CCHR was co-founded in 1969 by the Church of Scientology and Professor of Psychiatry Emeritus Dr. Thomas Szasz at a time when patients were being warehoused in institutions and stripped of all constitutional, civil and human rights.
Amazing list. Thanks for posting.
I wish this list did not bring up Aaron Alexis, had the pleasure of working with that bastard when I was in NMCI back then, though for a week, never struck me as odd but there was something about him back then, just could not put my finger on it, but I regret ever knowing the man and he can rot in hell.
All that post is nothing but B.S. Obama says its all the fault of GUNS, GUNS and more GUNS and they must be done away with. Why can’t everyone see el Supremo’s reasoning on this? After all, he is the smartest person in the world if you don’t include the other 8 billion or so./s
Important:
This is severe disinformation, by a group with a highly illicit agenda. See below.
Suboxone is NOT a drug given for psychiatric problems. It is given to help overcome heroin and other heavy drug addictions. It is not a psychiatric behavior or thought process drug. He was already a heavy duty heroin junkie long before he may have been given Suboxone.
Junkies need no help or additional drugs to do crazy things.
Trying to blame this on Suboxone in an admitted heroin addict is like being worried that someone might shoot you with a BB gun when they have already shot you with a .45.
BTW, the CCHR, the so-called Citizens Commission on Human Rights, where this came from, is an anti-medicine, anti-doctor Scientology front group. Don’t be fooled.
Drugs.
Liberals shut down mental hospitals. Since then mass killings and attacks have sky-rocketed.
Also note, this drug is NOT given to treat depression like the others listed.
It’s side effects do not involve bizarre or violent behavior, in fact, the opposite, such as the cited “relaxed and calm feeling”:
More common
Cough or hoarseness
feeling faint, dizzy, or lightheaded
feeling of warmth or heat
fever or chills
flushing or redness of the skin, especially on the face and neck
headache
lower back or side pain
painful or difficult urination
sweating
Incidence not known
Bloating or swelling of the face, arms, hands, lower legs, or feet
rapid weight gain
tingling of the hands or feet
unusual weight gain or loss
If any of the following symptoms of overdose occur while taking buprenorphine / naloxone, get emergency help immediately:
Symptoms of overdose
Blurred vision
confusion
difficult or troubled breathing
dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness when getting up suddenly from a lying or sitting position
drowsiness
irregular, fast, slow, or shallow breathing
pale or blue lips, fingernails, or skin
pinpoint pupils
relaxed and calm feeling
sleepiness
unusual tiredness or weakness
Some buprenorphine / naloxone side effects may not need any medical attention. As your body gets used to the medicine these side effects may disappear. Your health care professional may be able to help you prevent or reduce these side effects, but do check with them if any of the following side effects continue, or if you are concerned about them:
More common
Abdominal or stomach pain
difficulty having a bowel movement (stool)
lack or loss of strength
nausea
pain
trouble sleeping
vomiting
Less common
Back pain
diarrhea
runny nose
sneezing
stuffy nose
This is all CCHR / Scientology and Alex Jones BS
Not everyone on these drugs kills people, but it seems like all the killers have been on these drugs!
These antidepressant drugs do not treat depression. They mask its symptoms while leaving untreated the problem causing the depression! Is this so hard to understand?
Yes, he’s mentally ill but that doesn’t excuse the horrible murder.
BTW, for those saying this is not terrorism, this is terrorism, and a hate crime.
What kind of people are on psychiatric drugs? Oh yeah, insane people. The question isn’t how many people on these drugs do bad things, it’s how many DON’T.
Right, because there is no causal relationship between having a mental disorder and being prescribed psychoactive drugs.
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