Posted on 06/08/2015 4:48:07 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
Trump said the Republicans are pushing the deal because “they don’t understand” the topic and “they’re making a mistake.”
“It’s because you have lobbyists lobbying for this thing, and you have lobbyists representing areas of industry, you have lobbyists representing countries,” Trump said.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/08/exclusive-donald-trump-disaster-trade-deal-empowers-americas-enemies-another-sign-country-is-going-to-hell/
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A person in 1787 putting forth the idea of off shoring factories(already very profitable) to a primitive country to avoid paying first world wages and reimporting the finished products , duty free, to be sold at first world prices and the profit going to share holders at the expense of an idled work force all the while collecting income taxes to pay "welfare" leaving the bill to the us taxpayer would have been tarred feathered to start with, perhaps shot.
You self-defined. I didn’t do it. Implement a tariff policy starting with yourself and see how fast your standard of living falls and just how hungry you get. I love America, but I hate the bad ideas that are ruining her.
Ping me in 30 days after your personal experiment with tariffs is done. I cannot wait to hear the results. Otherwise you’re just a fake who, like every Lefty I ever met, just wants to implement his grandiose ideas and social engineering on others by force.
And yet you respond tit for tat. So maybe not so sophomoric.
I’m saying that in effect I have implemented a tariff policy on myself by not purchasing goods produced in slave-labor places, and it works just fine.
Stop wasting time pinging me your nonsense and get busy implementing the Central VA tariff regime on your household. You’ll need to spend at least 16 hours a day producing all the goods you use from energy to food to entertainment.
If you’re honest I don’t expect to hear from you for 30 days. Cut off the internet. Stop using the computer you bought off household. You’d hate to let the non-Central VA household people ruin your good thing.
Tariffs are for fools. Use them on yourself and see. Peace out, Central_VA. Talk to you in 30.
You haven’t implemented a tariff policy on yourself. You’re still buying the product of someone else’s labor. Do to yourself what you ask to do to me. That’s the proof that you’re not a liar and a hypocrite.
But you won’t do that because even as you type you know that you cannot produce all that you need in an effective or efficient manner. Tariff yourself, before you tariff me.
As soon as I repeal the 16th amendment I will have very high tariffs and a NSRT. It will work out fine. The beauty of a tariff and opposed to the socialist income tax you love so much, is a citizen doesn’t have to pay the tariff. Just don’t buy and then you don’t have to pay.
What kind of kooky logic is this? Off your meds?
First, when you ignore how, as you ADMIT to doing, your comments become totally childish and meaningless. WHY and HOW are the ballgame dude....without them, its just pabulum. You are the one who’s not supporting America, because you’re just bitching without any intellectual underpinning.
Second, maybe you need to look at America as a set of ideals and not just a piece of real estate. You seem to think that any job on American soil is an American job, even if it is created by crony government capitalism and involves supporting a Marxist union. That’s just borderline retarded. Meanwhile, you look at an entrepreneurial importer/exporter as a bad thing. Your world view is really stunted.
Third, you seem to think that our economy now can support jobs that will produce the little trinkets and other consumer items that China makes. It won’t. It just won’t do it. You seem to ignore the reality, and not necessarily a happy reality, that it’s a global economy period. If Russia and Europe and the rest of the world can buy cheap Chinese goods and Americans cannot - we will be hurt that way by cost of living, efficiencies, productivity etc. Economics is just not as black and white as you think it is. If we cannot be productive, we’ll get our clocks cleaned.
Logical fallacies are your speciality. See you in 30. Will you post daily on YouTube. No you can’t because you’ll have to provide your own internet, your own video website, your own computer, your own power, your own everything.
You’re wasting precious time, FRiend. Enjoy your tariff regime and let’s talk in July. Remember to make your own flag, lemonade, hot dogs, condiments and fireworks for the 4th. If you cannot central plan your own life, why work to central plan mine?
It’s going to be a rough 30 days on your household, but you can write your own marriage and family counseling book and self-diagnose and self-medicate. How will you manufacture the pills the doctor you can no longer use proscribed to you?
I bet you don’t make it a day on your personal tariff regime.
Would you be in favor of repealing the income tax? If so how would you replace the income for the legitimate purpose of FedGov i.e. military etc?
I would replace the income tax with tariffs and a NRST. Question: Would you advocate that?
I do favor repealing the income tax. Both a flat tax or a FAIR type tax would work much better, and be much simpler. The FAIR type would be better, but it’s too damned difficult to explain. The flat system is more sellable, but either would be far far superior to what we have now, which is run by an evil militaristic IRS. The complication in the 70 thousand plus pages is what gives them the power.
BTW, in case you’re thinking about this: countries who impose no income taxes but have extremely high tariffs are almost all countries with no middle class - a small group of crony connected government wealthy types, and mostly poverty. I’ve visited many of them, including 3 in the last 2 months. The population loves their government because they think it’s tax free, not realizing that they are in poverty because government doubles the price of everything coming into their countries.
Well we are getting our clocks cleaned, right now.
Big time.
LOL. You continue to use the services provided by others not of your household. It’s cognitive dissonance. Start with yourself and the things you have 100% control over. Everyone who reads this thread will know you’re a fake and a central planner who won’t apply his bad ideas to himself and his loved ones, but is more than willing to force them on me and mine.
Talk to you on July 10.
A flat tax is an income tax. Fail.
BTW, in case you’re thinking about this: countries who impose no income taxes but have extremely high tariffs are almost all countries with no middle class
Really, that is more of a corruption problem than a no income tax problem. Again you defend the income tax. Fail.
GloBullists rely on the progressive income tax to keep their ponzi scheme going.
What kind of crazy crap is this? Nobody gets your point.
I would replace the income tax with tariffs and a NRST. Question: Would you advocate that?
I would replace the income tax with tariffs and a NRST. Question: Would you advocate that?
Depends on what you mean by getting our clocks cleaned, and really depends on what you mean by “we” - you seem to have this simplistic childish sophomoric view that there’s China as one big entity and America as another. That’s not how it is.
Yes, on the surface, taking the two countries as just two entities, the trade numbers look bad. But the assumption that every dollar in trade deficit means a job is lost is just economically idiotic. For example, BMW and Hyundai and other companies import a LOT of stuff....causing trade deficits...but they use that stuff to employ AMERICAN WORKERS in AMERICAN FACTORIES to build cars.
Why? Because in non union, ie non LIBERAL states, it’s better to manufacture HERE then overseas. And yet, regardless of the million times I point this out to you, your brain remains closed and unable to compute. DUH!
China has a lot more internal problems than we do...A LOT. But it is our internal problems that allows China to run this surplus. And you say, but but but it’s the trade deal....that’s only part of it. With the cost of energy and transportation across the damned globe, if we exported our liberalism it wouldn’t matter a single bit what China did.
And no, Donald Trump can’t magically go in and negotiate all these problems away, especially since he’s ignorant of many and complicit in some of these problems himself.
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