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Overeducated Writer Explains Why He Defaulted On His Student Loans, Asks "Am I a Deadbeat?"
Zero Hedge ^ | 06/07/2015 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 06/07/2015 2:33:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

There are some valid points raised in Lee Siegel's 1100 word rant against college loans (if not so much against college education). There are some bad ones. But two things are clear: the words "personal" and/or "responsibility" were used precisely zero times, and the op-ed writer, who described himself as "the author of five books who is writing a memoir about money", is hardly a glowing advertisement for an education attained (funded with either debt or equity) at one of the Ivy League's "best", Columbia University.

That, or the return on money after spending nearly a decade in university and taking out tens of thousands in loans just to achieve a Master of Philosophy degree.

To wit:

 

Why I Defaulted on My Student Loans, originally published as an opinion piece in the NYT Sunday Review

One late summer afternoon when I was 17, I went with my mother to the local bank, a long-defunct institution whose name I cannot remember, to apply for my first student loan. My mother co-signed. When we finished, the banker, a balding man in his late 50s, congratulated us, as if I had just won some kind of award rather than signed away my young life.

By the end of my sophomore year at a small private liberal arts college, my mother and I had taken out a second loan, my father had declared bankruptcy and my parents had divorced. My mother could no longer afford the tuition that the student loans weren’t covering. I transferred to a state college in New Jersey, closer to home.

Years later, I found myself confronted with a choice that too many people have had to and will have to face. I could give up what had become my vocation (in my case, being a writer) and take a job that I didn’t want in order to repay the huge debt I had accumulated in college and graduate school. Or I could take what I had been led to believe was both the morally and legally reprehensible step of defaulting on my student loans, which was the only way I could survive without wasting my life in a job that had nothing to do with my particular usefulness to society.

I chose life. That is to say, I defaulted on my student loans.

As difficult as it has been, I’ve never looked back. The millions of young people today, who collectively owe over $1 trillion in loans, may want to consider my example.

It struck me as absurd that one could amass crippling debt as a result, not of drug addiction or reckless borrowing and spending, but of going to college. Having opened a new life to me beyond my modest origins, the education system was now going to call in its chits and prevent me from pursuing that new life, simply because I had the misfortune of coming from modest origins.

Am I a deadbeat?

In the eyes of the law I am. Indifferent to the claim that repaying student loans is the road to character? Yes. Blind to the reality of countless numbers of people struggling to repay their debts, no matter their circumstances, many worse than mine? My heart goes out to them. To my mind, they have learned to live with a social arrangement that is legal, but not moral.

Maybe the problem was that I had reached beyond my lower-middle-class origins and taken out loans to attend a small private college to begin with. Maybe I should have stayed at a store called The Wild Pair, where I once had a nice stable job selling shoes after dropping out of the state college because I thought I deserved better, and naïvely tried to turn myself into a professional reader and writer on my own, without a college degree. I’d probably be district manager by now.

Or maybe, after going back to school, I should have gone into finance, or some other lucrative career. Self-disgust and lifelong unhappiness, destroying a precious young life — all this is a small price to pay for meeting your student loan obligations.

Some people will maintain that a bankrupt father, an impecunious background and impractical dreams are just the luck of the draw. Someone with character would have paid off those loans and let the chips fall where they may. But I have found, after some decades on this earth, that the road to character is often paved with family money and family connections, not to mention 14 percent effective tax rates on seven-figure incomes.

Moneyed stumbles never seem to have much consequence. Tax fraud, insider trading, almost criminal nepotism — these won’t knock you off the straight and narrow. But if you’re poor and miss a child-support payment, or if you’re middle class and default on your student loans, then God help you.

Forty years after I took out my first student loan, and 30 years after getting my last, the Department of Education is still pursuing the unpaid balance. My mother, who co-signed some of the loans, is dead. The banks that made them have all gone under. I doubt that anyone can even find the promissory notes. The accrued interest, combined with the collection agencies’ opulent fees, is now several times the principal.

Even the Internal Revenue Service understands the irrationality of pursuing someone with an unmanageable economic burden. It has a program called Offer in Compromise that allows struggling people who have fallen behind in their taxes to settle their tax debt.

The Department of Education makes it hard for you, and ugly. But it is possible to survive the life of default. You might want to follow these steps: Get as many credit cards as you can before your credit is ruined. Find a stable housing situation. Pay your rent on time so that you have a good record in that area when you do have to move. Live with or marry someone with good credit (preferably someone who shares your desperate nihilism).

When the fateful day comes, and your credit looks like a war zone, don’t be afraid. The reported consequences of having no credit are scare talk, to some extent. The reliably predatory nature of American life guarantees that there will always be somebody to help you, from credit card companies charging stratospheric interest rates to subprime loans for houses and cars. Our economic system ensures that so long as you are willing to sink deeper and deeper into debt, you will keep being enthusiastically invited to play the economic game.

I am sharply aware of the strongest objection to my lapse into default. If everyone acted as I did, chaos would result. The entire structure of American higher education would change.

The collection agencies retained by the Department of Education would be exposed as the greedy vultures that they are. The government would get out of the loan-making and the loan-enforcement business. Congress might even explore a special, universal education tax that would make higher education affordable.

There would be a national shaming of colleges and universities for charging soaring tuition rates that are reaching lunatic levels. The rapacity of American colleges and universities is turning social mobility, the keystone of American freedom, into a commodified farce.

If people groaning under the weight of student loans simply said, “Enough,” then all the pieties about debt that have become absorbed into all the pieties about higher education might be brought into alignment with reality. Instead of guaranteeing loans, the government would have to guarantee a college education. There are a lot of people who could learn to live with that, too.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Society
KEYWORDS: 2016election; berniesanders; college; deadbeat; deadbeats; default; election2016; leesiegel; studentloan; tuition; tylerdurden; tylerdurdenmyass; vermont; zerohedge
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To: old and tired
They are the result of his bad choices.

Unlike the millions of inocent citizens saddled with trillions of dollars of debt from bad government policy
41 posted on 06/07/2015 4:54:59 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Why doesn’t right or wrong enter into this as much as some may think?


42 posted on 06/07/2015 5:05:21 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Kid Shelleen

Take a job he doesn’t want to pay his bills?

Like 90% of the taxpayers, bank stockholders, etc., that he’s forcing to pay his bills for him have done.


43 posted on 06/07/2015 5:07:04 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
I merely mean that I don't see this as completely black or white -- you either think Josh is a bad person OR you enthusiastically support child rape. I think a slightly more nuanced view of the situation should be possible.

I will say that Josh was wrong.
I will say that people who want to protect children are right.

So: Right and Wrong DO enter into this.

But can we can ANYTHING at all with a bit of nuance? Or are we mandated to simply say that Josh is a bad, vile, hateful person?

Because that seems a tad simplistic to me.

44 posted on 06/07/2015 5:11:44 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Claire Wolfe should check her watch. It's time.)
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To: 9YearLurker

My apologies! posted to the wrong thread! I think that’s the first time I’ve done that!


45 posted on 06/07/2015 5:12:42 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Claire Wolfe should check her watch. It's time.)
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To: SeekAndFind

***Master of Philosophy: Columbia University***

“Oh, A Bull s#1t artist!”-from Mel Brooks’ HISTORY OF THE WORLD PART 1.


46 posted on 06/07/2015 5:13:33 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: 9YearLurker
I think it is important to honor your debt. It is wrong to skip on out it.

I also think that the entire financial system is a based on fraud and greed and is not workable at all. It's gamed by people like Soros. It will come crashing down. And when it comes crashing down -- when it takes a wheelbarrow full of money to buy groceries, a lot of people will not be honoring their debt. It's coming.

Some people will be the first to throw up their hands and say "The game is rigged! I won't play!". They will be both dishonorable and smarter than the rest of us.

47 posted on 06/07/2015 5:19:23 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Claire Wolfe should check her watch. It's time.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hey, when a Wall Street corporation doesn't pay its bills, it's called a "strategic default." Nobody gave a hoot when Morgan Stanley defaulted on five office buildings in 2009.

A deadbeat's a deadbeat. Mr. Siegel is as low on the bottom of the ocean as whale turds and Wall Street firms.

Look for Obama to issue an executive order forgiving student loan debt before he departs the White House.

This BS won't stop until colleges have to cosign these loans.

48 posted on 06/07/2015 5:19:54 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He knows he is a deadbeat but has yet to come to terms with the fact that he is a self centered dick.


49 posted on 06/07/2015 5:25:46 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: SeekAndFind

I did not think that it was possible to discharge student loan debts in bankruptcy. If he did not declare bankruptcy and just stopped paying on the debt, that just means he will have no medicare or social security when he reaches retirement age (if he expected any to begin with).


50 posted on 06/07/2015 5:26:50 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

RE: “Oh, A Bull s#1t artist!”-from Mel Brooks’ HISTORY OF THE WORLD PART 1.

Job Description ( as per the character Comicus, played by Mel Brooks) :

“I coalesce the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful comprehension. ..”


51 posted on 06/07/2015 5:33:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Hot Tabasco

Amen! I wish I could transfer my GI Bill bennies to my soon to be college-bound kid. I guess bound is the operative term here.


52 posted on 06/07/2015 5:39:56 PM PDT by 22202NOVA (Tagline? I don't need no stinking tagline!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s okay—but you haven’t really explained the “nuance” you see that makes this other than an issue of right or wrong.


53 posted on 06/07/2015 6:00:34 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, he’s a deadbeat...but...is he really any more of a deadbeat than GM or Chrysler, who, through years of mismanagement ended up being social welfare companies that, oh by the way, also made cars and trucks. The bond and shareholders were shafted while the management and unions made out. And what about the colleges and universities that kept raising their tuitions forcing their students to mortgage their futures, and the Federal government that subsidized loans, thus subverting their true cost, and the finance companies that gladly wrote the loans even though they should’ve known they’d probably not be repaid (hence the change making the loans exempt from bankrupcy)


54 posted on 06/07/2015 6:21:53 PM PDT by captain_dave
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To: SeekAndFind
which was the only way I could survive without wasting my life in a job that had nothing to do with my particular usefulness to society.

To quote Judge Smails from Caddyshack: Well, the world needs ditch diggers too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiRGRvE_Wqg

Instead of guaranteeing loans, the government would have to guarantee a college education. There are a lot of people who could learn to live with that, too.

And that would be as successful as the guaranteed high school education now. Just imagine fights over common core for a bachelor's degree.

The author almost makes the connection from the high cost of education to the free flow of government guaranteed money, either through grants or loans. But then he swerves off and suggests that all of higher education be nationalized. He saw the light at the end of the tunnel, but slammed into the tunnel wall to avoid it.

55 posted on 06/07/2015 6:35:03 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The 1st amendment is the voice and the 2nd is the teeth of freedom. Obama wants to knock out both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So Lee Siegel shows up at the local Albertsons, at the crack of 10:30 am, for his first day of work.
Lee greets the Manager and shakes his hand!
The Manager gives Lee a brand new broom.
Lee stutters, buttt butt I have a Master of Philosophy from Columbia University!!!

The Store Manager is gobsmacked, then apologizes for the misunderstanding. Lee, look here, I will show you how to use a Broom


56 posted on 06/07/2015 7:05:36 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: SeekAndFind

Deadbeat | 1. a person who deliberately avoids paying debts. 2. a loafer; sponger. adjective

If the shoe fits .....


57 posted on 06/07/2015 7:37:51 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nobody forced him to go to that school.

Nobody forced him to take out loans.

Nobody forced him to to rack up massiver personal debt.

Once he got worried about debt nobody forced him to continue going to the school instead of going to a less expensive school.

Nobody forced him to take a crappy major that wasn’t worth half of what he paid for it.

Nobody forced him into a field of study that is not a high paying field, but it sure can be an easy major to do a lot of partying while at school.

PERSONAL CHOICES AND PERSONAL CONSEQUENCES.


58 posted on 06/07/2015 8:00:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

All the academic losers, who took easy stupid majors, are now frmaing themselves as victims of the system. They want everyone else to bail them out because it’s unfair their education cost so much and now they can’t make big bucks like people who studied hard and graduated with degrees that will get them good work earning decent to very good money.

I saw all these types at school. They were the ones drunk walking down the street to the next party, while I was coming home from the library from studying. ANd I was going home to keep studying.


59 posted on 06/07/2015 8:03:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind
This thief walked away from his debt and the rest of us had to pay it. Despicable.

If there were justice in this world, he'd lose his house, car and job, and his paycheck would be encumbered to pay back the loan in full– with interest accruing the entire time.

While we're on it, in keeping with the tactics of the Left, I propose that we prosecute Climate Change Promoters with feloniously trying to cause a panic– same as yelling fire in a movie house. Jail the lying sob's.

60 posted on 06/07/2015 10:31:41 PM PDT by IncPen (Not one single patriot in Washington, DC.)
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