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The End Of Starbucks as We Know It?
Commercial Observer ^ | March 18, 2015 | LAUREN ELKIES SCHRAM

Posted on 03/21/2015 1:15:43 PM PDT by SamAdams76

Starbucks Coffee is getting creamed by New York City rents.

The java giant may get priced out of its premier and larger Manhattan locations as some of the company’s earliest stores approach renewal after 15 to 20 years.

“It’s likely that it’ll be very difficult to renew a number of those leases,” said retail broker Joanne Podell, a vice chairman at Cushman & Wakefield, who does not represent Starbucks. She noted that the stores with “superb” locations—i.e., on busy streets with well-trafficked storefronts—are expiring and the chain was paying “much, much less per square foot” than today’s rents. The average Manhattan Starbucks is 1,600 square feet.

There are more than 200 Starbucks locations in Manhattan, and more of the locations are coming up for renewal now as Starbucks, the largest coffeehouse company in the world, first entered the New York City market in 1994, with four or five opening that year and a surge of openings in the following two years, a source said.

Starbucks lost its location at 334 Fifth Avenue at West 33rd Street recently because the coffee company couldn’t “get [the deal] done,” a source with knowledge of the situation said. The taking rent at the location is apparently more than $1 million a year.

The coffee retailer’s 2,811-square-foot Lincoln Center store at 156 Columbus Avenue at the southwest corner of West 67th Street has hit the market after 15 years. A new tenant can take possession of the space on June 1, 2016, according to the CBRE marketing materials. The asking rent is $600 per square foot, another source said, speculating that Starbucks pays about half that today.

“It’s likely that it’ll be very difficult to renew a number of those leases.” —Joanne Podell, Cushman & Wakefield

At 41 Union Square West at East 17th Street and Broadway, the Starbucks space is about to hit the market with Newmark Grubb Knight Frank’s Jeffrey Roseman. The asking rent there is $650 per foot, and Starbucks is currently paying $325 per foot.

Landlords often want to stick with an existing tenant for a renewal rather than bring in a new tenant as “with a renewal, you know what you’re buying,” one of the sources said. “Good landlords, when they have a good tenant, will often do it for a little less.”

As they say, it’s better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.

Regarding the Union Square West location, Mr. Roseman said: “Ownership’s first choice would be to keep them, even at a lesser number than they can get from someone else, but the number still has to make good business sense, as it is one of the most desired corners in the market.”

The Starbucks sublease at 1378 Madison Avenue at 96th Street was up for renewal and the landlord arranged a direct lease with the coffee house, along with an expansion into space previously occupied by K&D By the Glass, according to the landlord’s broker, Douglas Elliman’s Faith Hope Consolo. Starbucks grew its space to 1,585 square feet from 1,300 in the new 10-year lease. The rent is $350 per foot, Ms. Consolo said.

But from the standpoint of Starbucks, closing and moving to a less popular location might not even matter. The royalty of roasting has seeped so far into the collective unconscious—remember the old New Yorker cartoon, “Are we in this Starbucks or the one down the street?”—that it no longer needs choice locations to maximize sales.

In today’s world of rising rents, especially on the high-profile corridors, likely Starbucks knows they can still be successful in smaller space and/or just off the main avenues,” said retail specialist Robin Abrams of Lansco. (Plus, the fact that Starbucks is peddling an addictive product that its customers will go out of their way to track down, doesn’t hurt.)

While Starbucks could pay new rents that are double its old rents, the chain may choose not to, Ms. Consolo said.

“Starbucks is in the midst of a new blend, pun intended, that will include tea as well as coffee, and that may be changing their real estate needs,” Ms. Consolo said. “Fewer, more diverse locations may be the new strategy.”

Starbucks is often able to open new locations nearby ones that close, as in the case of 545 Fifth Avenue between East 44th and East 45th Streets. Once the store shuttered, the chain opened a new spot at 25 West 45th Street between Fifth Avenue and Avenue of the Americas.

Public since June 26, 1992, Starbucks’ business is going strong. It saw a more than 10 percent increase in fourth-quarter 2014 revenues to a record $4.2 billion, according to published reports. Starbucks is planning to bring two new types of stores to Manhattan, a grab-and-go concept as well as a slow bar, Commercial Observer previously reported. The company hasn’t found a location for either of the new concepts, one source said. Starbucks’ Manhattan broker, David Firestein of SCG Retail, declined to comment, as did Starbucks.

“When they first opened, they could afford larger spaces enabling more seating/lounging,” Ms. Abrams said. “They also had competitors who had positioned in New York City before they arrived to open stores in our market. Most of those competitors have disappeared, although a host of others have opened, but mostly in smaller footprints, and certainly without the branding power of Starbucks. Their business is mostly grab-and-go, and that is what they seem to be focusing on now with smaller spaces that are less expensive to lease.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bluezones; coffee; manhattan; newyork; nyc; obama; starbucks
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To: SamAdams76

Wait a minute ... wait a minute!

I think I know how we can turn this situation around! What if we passed a law that manadated a $15/hr wage for all barristas? Would that help?


21 posted on 03/21/2015 1:44:06 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The dog days are over /The dog days are done/Can you hear the horses? /'Cause here they come)
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To: wetgundog
Maybe they can sell their lousy liberal sh!t from a sidewalk stand in the middle of Winter.

F em.


Some people here don't really understand the concept that supporting your enemy is a bad idea.


22 posted on 03/21/2015 1:45:51 PM PDT by 867V309 (Boehner is the new Pelosi)
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To: SamAdams76

I can already read the byline for stories about Starbucks leaving the market - racist America can’t handle honest discussions about race.


23 posted on 03/21/2015 1:50:08 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: grania

“And I don’t have to say “grande” to order. “

WHAT??? You mean you can just order “coffee” without being forced to speak a line of pseudo-Italian gibberish? How quaint.


24 posted on 03/21/2015 1:51:25 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Hugin
True. If you get just the coffee at Starbucks, it's no pricier than what you get at Dunkin Donuts.

Outside of coffee, you are paying about $1 per syllable.

cap-u-chee-no = $4

ca-ra-mel mahk-yah-to = $6

You get the picture.

25 posted on 03/21/2015 1:51:51 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

#STFU!


26 posted on 03/21/2015 1:52:35 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: ErnBatavia

I like their chocolate chocolate chip muffins, though. Although my convenience store sells them for 1/3 of the price.


27 posted on 03/21/2015 1:57:06 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Selling on the streets there is not as easy as it sounds because licenses are restricted, my son was doing that (unlicensed) for a few years before opening his store in Brooklyn.

“You can apply for a General Vendor license if the Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) contacts you with a waiting list number. The maximum number of General Vendor licenses that DCA issues to non-veterans is limited by law to 853. DCA’s waiting list for non-veteran applicants is currently closed.”


28 posted on 03/21/2015 1:57:40 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: SamAdams76

They can just reopen their shops in black areas, where the rent is cheaper.


29 posted on 03/21/2015 1:59:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12

I’m a service connected veteran. That “waiting list” wouldn’t apply to me, as I understand the rules.


30 posted on 03/21/2015 2:01:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: SamAdams76
But their difficulty begs the questoin: If even Starbucks, with their overpriced lattes and frappucinos can't afford the rents to put their retail shops there, that does not bode well for other retailers in that space.

The way the article reads, I get the impression that the rent affordability isn't a question of if Starbucks can afford it, but if it's worth doubling their rent when they can find a cheaper place slightly off the main roads. People still Google search 'Starbucks', and will still find them. Now that they're so well established in people's minds, being in the high-visibility, high-traffic areas isn't as needed anymore. So instead of doubling rent costs, they may just close on 1st street and reopen on 3rd.
31 posted on 03/21/2015 2:02:47 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: ansel12

The City licenses street vendors.

You must have a General Street Vendor License to sell or lease goods or services in a public space. This license is mainly for veterans. The number of licenses given to non-veterans is very limited.

You must have a General Street Vendor Distributor License to transport goods to a public space in order to sell them to a general street vendor.

A license is not required to sell newspapers, books, and similar items, but related City rules and regulations still apply.

http://www1.nyc.gov/nyc-resources/service/2938/general-street-vendor-license


32 posted on 03/21/2015 2:04:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hadn’t realized that your post 5 was about you specifically, I was thinking it was more general.


33 posted on 03/21/2015 2:06:23 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My son is a vet, but I don’t know that there is an unlimited number of licenses for vets.


34 posted on 03/21/2015 2:07:55 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: SamAdams76

Starbucks has very good coffee (well, depending on the brew you pick - but it’s usually fresh, except for a few sub-par shops). I buy the K-cups of French roast and Verona for home use.

Some of the stores in NYC are sort of horrible (hostile staff, stale pastries) and some are nice, so you have to know which one is okay.

But after this “Race Together” thing, I honestly think I’ll be avoiding the shops. Who wants to go in to get a cup of coffee and have the staff start talking about “race” when all you really want to do is get a cup of coffee and go to work or maybe go sit down and read the paper.

Plus, how is this going to affect the service? We all have to stand and wait while some twit “explains race” to the customer in front of us?


35 posted on 03/21/2015 2:12:06 PM PDT by livius
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To: ansel12

Google it.


36 posted on 03/21/2015 2:14:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: SamAdams76

Starbucks margins and traffic don’t sustain those kind of rents. An ex-Starbucks location in Manhattan will become a bank branch (thanks to the Federal Reserve, nothing’s more profitable than taking deposits), cell phone outlet, or a restaurant with higher margins and a stronger evening / weekend business.


37 posted on 03/21/2015 2:14:34 PM PDT by only1percent
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To: SamAdams76

They should raise the salaries of the employees to at least $15 an hour too; hey, in for a penny, in for a dollar...


38 posted on 03/21/2015 2:16:52 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: livius

Plus, how is this going to affect the service? We all have to stand and wait while some twit “explains race” to the customer in front of us?


And I have a feeling that Starbucks is training their employees to render the liberal view of Ferguson and other racial matters. So you will have to listen to a liberal lecture. I can see service slow way down, if anyone more conservative wants to argue the talking points being spewed forth from Starbucks workers.


39 posted on 03/21/2015 2:29:48 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SamAdams76
The asking rent is $600 per square foot...

Memory of the housing crash from 2006 appears to have vanished. A rental at $600 / sq ft! Insane.

40 posted on 03/21/2015 2:35:33 PM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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