Posted on 03/19/2015 3:48:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Much about his trip—weeks before the assassination—remains unexamined.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/03/jfk-assassination-lee-harvey-oswald-mexico-116195.html#ixzz3Uy93moex
Whhat if the answers to the many, persistent questions surrounding the assassination of President John F. Kennedy lie not in Dallas or Washington, D.C., but in the streets of a foreign capital that most Americans have never associated with the president’s murder? Mexico City.
Only hours after shots rang out in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963, U.S. Ambassador Thomas C. Mann told colleagues in the American embassy in Mexico that he was certain Lee Harvey Oswald had not acted alone in killing JFK.
Oswald had visited Mexico City several weeks earlier, apparently to obtain a visa that would allow the self-proclaimed Marxist to defect to Cuba, and Mann, a veteran diplomat, suspected that a plot to kill Kennedy had been hatched on Mexican soil, during Oswald’s encounters there with Cuban diplomats and Mexicans who supported Fidel Castro’s revolution. How did Mann know about those meetings? It turned out the CIA had Oswald under surveillance in the Mexican capital after he had showed up at both the Cuban and Soviet embassies there. Back at the State Department, however, a baffled Mann hit a brick wall. No one in Washington seemed interested in his suspicions, he would later complain to colleagues. And within days of the assassination, the ambassador received an astonishing top-secret message directly from Secretary of State Dean Rusk. According to Mann’s testimony years later to congressional investigators, Rusk ordered the embassy to shut down any investigation in Mexico that might “confirm or refute rumors of Cuban involvement in the assassination.” No reason was given for the order, the ambassador said.
Mann told the congressional investigators that he was under the impression that the same “incredible” shut-down order had been given by the CIA to the spy agency’s station chief in Mexico, Winston Scott. In memoirs quietly declassified in the 1990s, after his death, Scott confirmed that he, too, suspected that Oswald was an “agent” of a foreign power who may have been part of a conspiracy to kill Kennedy (though Scott did not suggest that the CIA’s investigation was shut down).
What happened in Mexico City in the weeks before JFK’s murder? It is clear from government files declassified in recent decades that Oswald’s six-day trip to Mexico was never adequately investigated by the CIA, the FBI and the State Department—and, as a result, by the Warren Commission, the panel named by President Lyndon Johnson to investigate the assassination. The question has been raised anew in recent weeks by a surprising source—the Warren Commission’s chief conspiracy hunter. And in fact, lots of evidence has accumulated over the years to suggest that historians, journalists and JFK buffs who are still trying to piece together clues about the president’s murder—whether from the memories of still-living witnesses or in the new tranche of assassination-related documents the National Archives is set to release in two years—would be wise to look to Mexico City.
In the half-century since the commission named for Chief Justice Earl Warren concluded that Oswald was the sole gunman in Dallas and that there was no evidence of a conspiracy, foreign or domestic, it is startling to discover how many credible government officials—beginning with Ambassador Mann and CIA station chief Scott—have suggested that evidence was missed in Mexico that could rewrite the history of the assassination. The list includes the late former FBI Director Clarence Kelley and former FBI Assistant Director William Sullivan, as well as David Belin, a former staff lawyer on the Warren Commission.
Last month, another commission staffer joined their ranks: David Slawson, a retired University of Southern California law professor who, 51 years ago, was the commission’s chief investigator searching for evidence that might have pointed to a foreign conspiracy in JFK’s murder. In interviews for a new edition of my 2013 history of the assassination, Slawson said he is now convinced the commission was the victim of a “massive cover-up” by the CIA and other agencies to hide evidence that might have identified people in Mexico City who knew and encouraged Oswald to carry out his threat when he returned to the United States.
Declassified government records back up Slawson’s suspicion of how much information was withheld in 1964, when senior officials at both the CIA and the FBI assured the commission that there was no evidence in Mexico—or anywhere else—to suggest that Oswald was anything other than a delusional lone wolf. In sworn testimony to the commission, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover insisted that “there was nothing up to the time of the assassination that gave any indication that this man was a dangerous character who might do harm to the president.”
The records declassified decades later tell a very different story, and show just how much evidence about Oswald’s Mexico trip —including CIA tape recordings of wiretaps of Oswald’s phone calls in Mexico—never reached the commission. Although the spy agency assured the commission in 1964 that there were no surveillance photos of Oswald in Mexico, CIA Station Chief Scott, in his memoirs, strongly suggested that there were photos, and other CIA officials later told congressional investigators in the 1970s that they recalled seeing the pictures. CIA and FBI records, meanwhile, show that the agencies never tried to track down or interview key witnesses who had encountered Oswald in Mexico.
Slawson is also convinced that someone blocked him from seeing a top-secret June 1964 letter from Hoover to the commission in which Hoover revealed that Oswald may have openly boasted about his plans—“I’m going to kill Kennedy”—while in Mexico, apparently at the Cuban embassy. Slawson believes the CIA was desperate to shut down any investigation in Mexico City out of fear the Warren Commission might stumble onto evidence of the spy agency’s long-running schemes to murder Fidel Castro. (Mexico City had been a staging area for some of the plots.) Slawson is careful to note that he is not suggesting any sort of far-flung, carefully laid-out conspiracy. For one thing, he notes, Oswald did not get the job he held at the time of the assassination, at the Texas School Book Depository, which was on the president’s motorcade route, until after he had returned to Texas from Mexico in early October 1963; the route itself was not announced until days before JFK’s arrival in Dallas.
For the record, one of those “autopsy” photos, Jfk on the gurney, is from the movie JFK. The one right above the caption “Autopsy photos of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy” on that webpage: http://www.geocities.ws/jfktruth/
Actually, you’re close, what really reportedly happened is Oswald was dissatisfied that they would not give him a passport or that he would have to wait for some months and he said something like “I’ll go kill Kennedy then.”
“CD 1359. Warren Commission Document 1359 is based on the report of an informant code-named SOLO (Jack Childs, a high-level mole in the CPUSA). The informant reports Fidel Castro as having told him that when Oswald was refused a visa, he stormed out saying “I’m going to kill Kennedy for this.”
http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Oswalds_Visits_to_the_Cuban_and_Soviet_Embassies
He just thought it up and did it, having read that Kennedy's visit to Dallas would pass right by his place of employment.
Ever since then, the radical left wing has been making up ridiculous conspiracy theories to distract the American people through manufactured doubt that one of their fellow travelers murdered the President of the United States.
Kennedy was having an affair with a communist agent. The news was about to break.
If LBJ and the Democrats have Kennedy killed, then LBJ moves up a position to be President and the Democrat Party is saved.
If the Mafia has JFK killed, what do they get?
If the Cubans have JFK killed, what do they get?
If the Soviet Union has JFK killed, what do they get?
The last three face complete annihilation if they get caught doing something like this. And face it, what did the Mafia or Cuba or the Soviet Union have to fear from JFK?
The Democrat Party has made a lot of money over the years from their involvement with government. They had a tremendous interest in seeing Kennedy go away.
It’s like Benghazi.
There wasn't a president that fought communism for another 17 years.
I used to believe in all the conspiracies too. But the truth of the matter is Oswald was an angry loner who wanted attention. The one other success in his life , if you will, besides shooting and killing the President Of The United Sates, wounding the Governor of Texas and shooting and killing Dallas police officer J.D. Tippitt was that he became a United States Marine. You don’t become a United Sates Marine unless you can pick up that weapon and hit that target. Not ‘’close enough’’, no “Maggies Drawers’’, you have to hit that target dead on or it’s “Son, you might want to try the Army’’. Oswald did hit the target, he did earn the Globe And Anchor. So for that six or seven seconds in that sixth floor window he picked up that weapon and he hit the target. He didn’t need any help. Jack Ruby? One pissed off, angry America who took the law into his own hands.
Seems more likely....
I’m pretty sure LBJ sent American Soldiers to fight communists in Vietnam.
The Man who Killed Kennedy.-The Case against LBJ—
Seems more likely....
He just thought it up and did it, having read that Kennedy's visit to Dallas would pass right by his place of employment.
Ever since then, the radical left wing has been making up ridiculous conspiracy theories to distract the American people through manufactured doubt that one of their fellow travelers murdered the President of the United States.
I tend to agree Lee Harvey Oswald did it (and nobody need read all of the following, a general comment on the thread), he was into Russian stuff when he was a Marine like learning the language on his own and reading Russian publications, he got court-martialed, he'd been in trouble as a juvenile. He really did lie about a lot of things and unfortunately, he did beat his wife per the Warren Commission testimony and someone at one of the apartments where he lived once reported it to, landlord or police, I forget. Also, his alleged "Fair Play For Cuba" activities in New Orleans.
Then, if there were Conspirators, doesn't seem like any were ever seen with him. So, in the end, I think he had the make-up of someone who would do such a thing, along with the sad killing of Officer Tippit which has witnesses.
Must have been a crazy time, there are forums that talk about the JFK assassination to go into these issues more in depth and the conspiracies are too many and often too wild, the referred to link in one of the posts above seems to have a blurb that James Earl Raye did not kill MLK and I watched the special on James Files, I don't think he, who has confessed as well, did it either.
Just little that is convincing and I know, some people are hard-core JFK assassination conspiracy believers so I'm not really knocking that in general though some of the theories yes, are left-wing motivated.
People get caught up in conspiracies because it just doesn't seem "right" or "plausible" that Oswald could have done it.
Oswald was in Mexico to get a Cuban passport. He was refused. This lifelong dream of his was the final straw.
His family had left him, his dream of a Cuban paradise was taken away.
He was a pathetic little Commie loser in everything in life.
He was going to show the world what a "pathetic man" can do.
Sorry to disappoint, but it's the truth.
People ask who "benefited" from the JFK assassination.
LBJ certainly did.
Oswald did too.
Sorry. Not buying it. No body ever keeps their mouth shut about anything.
I agree. He bought the rifle by mail order using a phony name so that no clerk in a gun store could ever say, “Yup, that’s the man I sold the rifle to’’.
However Oswald was a devoted pinko Leninist.
After his arrest, he tried to contact some kookburger leftist attorney to represent him.
I think he WANTED a trial so he could spew his asinine beliefs and become a martyr or cause celebre like the Rosenbergs.
That's my theory anyway.
Frankly there are a boatload of things about the JFK assassination that will never make sense to me.
Still think Oswald acted alone.
"the route itself was not announced until days before JFK’s arrival in Dallas."
Revenge for the rumored double-cross by the Kennedy family and the end of Bobby Kennedy as AG. Carlos Marcello certainly had the motivation and the means to do this. I don't know if the mob killed Kennedy but it is plausible IMO.
Read the book.......
A former CIA payroll officer claimed that it was widely assumed among his CIA colleagues that Oswald had been a full–time employee of the agency: House Special Committee on Assassinations, Interview of James B. Wilcott, 22 March 1978.
Two weeks before Dallas, there was a plot to kill JFK during his motorcade ride in to Miami from a high building with a high-powered rifle.
“Former FBI Donald Adams was a young agent in 1963 and investigated threats made against Kennedy less than two weeks before the killing.
He even questioned one of the men in Georgia just days before the assassination, but Adams contends he was instructed by the FBI to ask him five innocuous questions and the man was released.
Long after Kennedy was shot to death, Adams said he learned the same man he questioned had been secretly tape recorded by an informant in Miami on Nov. 9, 1963 - 13 days before the murder.
Adams believes what he said is further evidence that others were plotting to kill Kennedy.
“He says we’re going to kill him from an office building with a high-powered rifle.”
Adams said a picture released in 1992 also shows that man looking at the president’s motorcade on that fateful day in Texas.
While Adams believes the man was part of the assassination plot, he believes others shot President Kennedy from the ground level, not from the book depository.”
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