Posted on 03/16/2015 5:01:01 PM PDT by Beave Meister
GLENDALE, Ariz. -- Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred says he has received a formal request from Pete Rose asking that his lifetime ban be lifted and that he will consider the all-time hits leader's request "on its merits."
"I want to make sure I understand all of the details of the Dowd Report and Commissioner [Bart] Giamatti's decision and the agreement that was ultimately reached," Manfred said after a meeting with Los Angeles Dodgers players in Arizona on Monday morning. "I want to hear what Pete has to say, and I'll make a decision once I've done that."
Rose's previous efforts to gain leniency from commissioners Fay Vincent and Bud Selig were never considered.
Rose, 73, played from 1963 to 1986, amassing 4,256 hits, still a major league record. Three years after he retired, Rose agreed to a permanent ban from baseball amid accusations he gambled on games while playing and managing for the Cincinnati Reds.
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Unfortunately, he also ignored Major League Baseball's Rule 21 (d)
Rule 21 (d) is posted on the clubhouse door in every major league stadium, and has been for years. Rose probably walked by those signs 5,000 times during his career.
Rule 21 (d), which states: d) BETTING ON BALL GAMES. Any player, umpire, or club official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has no duty to perform shall be declared ineligible for one year. Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.
It doesn't say... unless you've got 4000 hits or 700 home runs or won 300 games or have 3000 strike outs. It says ANY PLAYER....He chose to ignore the signs, he chose to bet on baseball, and he's being punished in accordance with the rule. He also chose to lie about his actions for 14 years, and even after acknowledging them, still doesn't seem to understand that his mistake wasn't failing to apologize sooner. It's that he bet on baseball in the first place. How gutless.
And you don’t think others did as well? Time for baseball to get its head out of the sand and acknowledge Rose’s accomplishments. Baseball has let others in with far worse problems.
Go away Pete
Such as?
I bet he gets the band lifted.
Great ball player, lousy human.
Rose's stats can't be ignored, he deserves to be in the Hall...........
I bet he gets into the hall of fame.
It’s a slippery slope. Once you lower standards for Rose, then where do you draw the line. Do the rules only apply to players that are not Hall of Fame material?
Barred for life, means barred for life.
Barred for life, means barred for life.
That’s the whole point of my post.
Yeah, imagine if he hadn’t gambled and instead juiced up on roids and HGH. No problem, he’d already be in the HoF.
Seems like there are two major opinions here. Some say that Pete was such a great player that he deserves to be in baseball and deserves a spot in the Hall of Fame. These people are saying you should only consider his performance on the field.
Others say that he broke one of the biggest rules in baseball by gambling on baseball, and the penalty for that is expulsion from the game.
Over the years the basic arguments haven’t changed.
So then does Rose get reinstated in spite of the rules, because others have violated other rules???
I was in the stands the night that Pete Rose made his major league debut. I saw hit stroke his first major league hit.
He also broke rule 21 (d). A rule he was responsible for enforcing. A rule he knew he was breaking.
Pete Rose was a great baseball player. But he is no Hall of Famer.
As was his hero, Tyrus Cobb.
Agreed 100%. However, despite the fact that I hate the guy, he is one of the greatest players ever. Maybe it's time.
So, just because Ty Cobb was a jerk, Pete Rose should be in the Hall?
Shoeless Joe Jackson should be in the Hall long before Rose. Jackson always maintained his innocence, Pete accepted the ruling from the commissioner.
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