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As Chargers' future in San Diego hangs in balance, tempers rise
Los Angeles Times ^ | February 17, 2015 | Tony Perry

Posted on 02/19/2015 2:35:21 PM PST by EveningStar

Political discord increased Tuesday between the San Diego Chargers and Mayor Kevin Faulconer over whether the city will build a new stadium to keep the team from moving to Los Angeles.

The two sides exchanged increasingly pointed barbs accusing the other of not dealing in good faith to solve the volatile issue.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Sports
KEYWORDS: chargers; coliseum; kevinfaulconer; losangeles; nfl; sandiego; sandiegochargers
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Here we go again. Sports franchises should build their own facilities with private funds. They should not expect taxpayers to foot the bill. The city of San Diego should tell the Chargers to take a hike.

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1 posted on 02/19/2015 2:35:21 PM PST by EveningStar
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2 posted on 02/19/2015 2:35:55 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Perdogg

ping


3 posted on 02/19/2015 2:36:24 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Back to the future.

4 posted on 02/19/2015 2:37:05 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: EveningStar

Except of course somebody’s taxpayers WILL voluntarily foot the bill. Smart businesses don’t pay for things they can get free.


5 posted on 02/19/2015 2:37:15 PM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: EveningStar

It’s an f@@king GAME. Let them leave if they want to.


6 posted on 02/19/2015 2:37:31 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: EveningStar

What makes LA think fans will support a NFL team? They never have in the past.


7 posted on 02/19/2015 2:37:57 PM PST by Cry if I Wanna
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To: discostu

I know. :(


8 posted on 02/19/2015 2:39:23 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
Sports franchises should build their own facilities with private funds. They should not expect taxpayers to foot the bill.

Every economic study has shown that taxpayer funding of stadiums doesn't pay.

9 posted on 02/19/2015 2:44:12 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

That’s what I’ve heard and that’s what I base my opinion on.


10 posted on 02/19/2015 2:46:11 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

As a resident of San Diego I would like to say, I don’t give a rat’s behind what the Chargers do.


11 posted on 02/19/2015 2:47:40 PM PST by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: EveningStar

Is LA going to build them a stadium?

LA is like an NFL slut.


12 posted on 02/19/2015 2:49:55 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: EveningStar

One of the mayors aides compared Mark Fabiani (Bill Clinton’s former spinmeister) to Ryan Leaf. Ouch! That left a mark.

Compared to the other billionaire NFL owners, the Spanoses are low rent cheapskates. They don’t want to pay for squat.


13 posted on 02/19/2015 2:52:45 PM PST by forgotten man
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To: EveningStar
I'm a Chargers fan, and I agree with you. I have no interest in paying a billion dollars to keep them here. If his business needs to be subsidized to stay afloat, that's his problem. The thing is, it doesn't. Spanos is just a greedy, rich family that had enough money to buy a franchise when they were only worth 10 percent of what they are now, and now they want every last dollar they can squeeze from their ownership. If that means they have to go to LA to maximize their profits, they are willing to do it, fans be damned.

I am happy for local government to do whatever it can to help them stay. Make land available, give them tax breaks, create special economic zones. But forking over taxpayer money because Jerry Jones gets to sell sky boxes for millions and Dean Spanos doesn't? Boo hoo. The economic benefit of an NFL team is not sufficient for the amounts that would be spent on a stadium.

Fabiani is Clinton's old consigliere. He is lower than pond scum, and he is just as dirty. I do not trust anything he says. I believe the Chargers have been trying to find a way out of SD for 10 years, but the league won't let them move to LA. Now, the Rams owner has a good deal for a stadium, and he may get permission to return to LA, and suddenly, the Chargers are frantic. If anyone gets to move to LA, they want it to be them. I don't think they are negotiating in good faith with the city for a stadium, I think Fabiani is intentionally pissing everyone off so that he can go to the NFL and say that they have done all they could, now please let us move to LA. In their minds they are already gone.

It would be sweet, sweet justice for the Rams to be allowed to move, but not the Chargers. If the NFL says no, suddenly, Fabiani and Spanos will be so conciliatory to the city that it will be like they have been rapped on the head by an angel and learned to love all mankind. They will be "stuck" in that terrible place to live and make tens of millions of profits, year after year, that is San Diego.

That's my rant for the day.

14 posted on 02/19/2015 2:54:40 PM PST by Defiant (Please excuse Mr. Clinton for his involvement with young girls. --Epstein's Mother)
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To: AppyPappy
Is LA going to build them a stadium?

I hope not. The prediction of some NFL fans is that it will be the Rams and not the Chargers, but the same goes for them.

15 posted on 02/19/2015 2:58:27 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Cry if I Wanna
What makes LA think fans will support a NFL team? They never have in the past.

I don't think that's entirely true. The Rams left because their owner (the widder Frontiere) was a native St. Louisan who wanted to bring football back to her hometown after the "unfortunate" demise of her sugar daddy. I don't know what their attendance was, but I don't recall that they left because they couldn't get enough fan support. They, and the Raiders, were frustrated by a problem in getting a modern stadium built in LA. The Rams were playing in the Rose Bowl and in Anaheim, neither of which are good venues for the NFL. The Raiders were playing in the Coliseum, which, like the Rose Bowl, is just too big for NFL games. All those empty seats in a 100,000 seat stadium where the field is too far from the seats because it was built for track and field. They tried to get stadium deals, and just gave up.

Now, the new Rams owner has a deal in place for a stadium at a great location, and it looks like a go. That changes everything about football in LA. The only question is, would he be willing to let the Chargers play there? (What do you want to bet the Chargers try to make that a condition. What do you bet the NFL doesn't).

Were I voting for the interests of the NFL, I would let the Rams move back to LA, by themselves. I would sell a franchise to St. Louis, or allow Jacksonville or some other lame franchise move there, and I would force the Chargers to stay where they are. While LA can support a franchise, I am not convinced that they can support two, especially if they play in the same stadium. Spanos bought a San Diego team, now he thinks he's Al Davis and can just move wherever? He can't. Enjoy your millions, Dean, and give up on LA. You are not capable of handling LA.

16 posted on 02/19/2015 3:07:11 PM PST by Defiant (Please excuse Mr. Clinton for his involvement with young girls. --Epstein's Mother)
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To: EveningStar
NFL Fans Chargers do not have enough fans to ask for tax money. Chargers should go out of business.
17 posted on 02/19/2015 3:12:42 PM PST by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: EveningStar

LA does not need another pro football team. They already have USC. /s


18 posted on 02/19/2015 3:19:02 PM PST by llevrok (I fear the US government more than I do al Qaeda)
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To: WayneS

“It’s an f@@king GAME. Let them leave if they want to.”

It’s not a game,it’s a business.....part of the multi million dollar entertainment business.

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19 posted on 02/19/2015 3:19:24 PM PST by Mears
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To: Falconspeed

Were did you find that map? Sure would like to see a larger version of it.


20 posted on 02/19/2015 3:21:39 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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