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Campers: Do They Make Good Bug Out Vehicles?
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Posted on 02/10/2015 2:25:33 PM PST by Responsibility2nd

There is not a simple answer to the question. Much depends on your situation, your familiarity with campers, geography and type of crisis you would be dealing with. Type of campers would include motor homes, travel trailers and truck campers.

When people think of bug-out-vehicles (BOV) they think of a vehicle that can get them out of a dangerous area quickly. The vehicle is packed with emergency essentials and is ready to go at a moment’s notice. Bugging-out signifies haste, leaving an area that has become hostile, and that means leaving by the fastest and safest means possible, does a travel trailer or motor home fit that description. You can decide that based on a multitude of factors.

If your home was destroyed by some type of a disaster and you had a camper/motor home then you have shelter. However, if the disaster has not struck yet, but if one forecasted or predicted and you feel you would have to bug-out, would you jump in your camper. If you did, would you be able to get clear of the area driving a motor home or pulling a trailer, versus simply getting in your vehicle or setting out on foot, this is the question you need to answer, and can you answer it before a disaster strikes.

Considerations

If you have a travel trailer, this means you need a vehicle capable of pulling the trailer, and keep in mind during a crisis you would probably overload the trailer, which in turn would put more stress on the vehicle pulling it. Tires, engine and transmission all would be under more stress.

Water and fuel alone would take up considerable weight and then there is food, generators, clothing and other essentials, and because of the space, available people would tend to pack more. If you could not leave well ahead of others that are fleeing, you may find the highways are gridlocked, and you would essentially be trapped with all of your supplies in one place.

On the other hand, if you managed to get out of the urban area, you now have a shelter for when you arrive at your bug-location. You do have one of course, or do you plan to pull into a rest stop or camping area, during a crisis.

Rest areas and campsites would be overwhelmed in most cases by others doing just what you are doing and of course looters, and other criminals will go where the valuables are. If the crisis were, a natural disaster, campsites and rest areas may not be ideal places for sheltering.

How would you refuel, if you did manage to get to a bug-out location or any safe haven? You can carry fuel with you but the amounts would be limited. You simply cannot end up somewhere without the ability to leave that area at some point, and have to leave your home essentially and all of your supplies behind.

Truck campers would be better suited as a bug-out vehicle, because they are self-contained but you are limited on space. However, you would have more storage space than a typical vehicle. The truck camper would provide you with shelter, and they can be maneuvered around obstacles much easier than a motor home or travel trailer being towed. Of course, as with a motor home or travel trailer, they would be obvious targets for looters and others.

Campers or motor homes would be ideal for off grid living and in some situations could be used during a crisis if they were set up before the disaster struck. A camper would be the same as having a shelter built at your bug-out-location. Of course, you need a location that is remote and one you had access to at all times, in other words, you would have to own it to ensure you would not be uprooted in the middle of a crisis. Even if you did own a piece of property there are no guarantees you would be able to hang on to it during certain situations.

One of the advantages of having a camper is storage, in particular storage of safe drinking water. This is provided you filled the tank(s) from a clean source. You would need water hoses rated for drinking water and you would have to know the source is safe. Filling the tanks with contaminated water means the water would have to be drained and then the tank(s) sanitized properly and this would take large amounts of clean water.

Mobility would be a problem with any type of camper, so taking to the open roads for any substantial distance would be problematic. You would need more fuel for the towing vehicle, than you would otherwise need when it was not towing a trailer and fuel for the motor home. This could become a problem one that could not be solved easily if at all during some situations.

You may be forced to abandon your camper at some point and if so you would need a vehicle so having a travel trailer would have its advantages over a motor home, because you can unhook the towing vehicle. A pickup camper would make the most sense but you would have to consider its downfalls as well.


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To: BobL

Faraday garage. Make the garage into a cage with rebar, like if it was going to all be a concrete shell. Will work better than a tinfoil hat.


101 posted on 02/10/2015 6:20:53 PM PST by hlmencken3 (“I paid for an argument, but you’re just contradicting!”)
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To: Kartographer
We have a 2002 F250 with the 7.3 power stroke that is known to last 500k+ miles easy. We also have a 30' travel trailer that we keep stocked as if it were a second home with clothes, non-perishable food, supplies, etc. I also keep fresh water and propane tanks topped off.

We can be on the road in about an hour. We can live reasonable for about a week off-grid today. It's not perfect, but I think it will serve us well in a pinch.

I have water filters today, but may look into buying a Berkey unit and using the fresh water holding tank as storage. I also have some other mods I would like to do to make it more self sufficient in an off-grid situation.

102 posted on 02/10/2015 6:28:36 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: 5thGenTexan

Consider:

Homemade Berkey Water Filter

http://www.survival-spot.com/survival-blog/homemade-berkey-water-filter/


103 posted on 02/10/2015 6:31:59 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Thanks!


104 posted on 02/10/2015 7:00:27 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: central_va

2 with a 500HP turbo diesel, but the fuel tank is pretty big.


105 posted on 02/10/2015 7:15:09 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: hlmencken3

Until you go outside and another blast hits.


106 posted on 02/10/2015 7:25:29 PM PST by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Oooh, that just went on my Christmas wish list!


107 posted on 02/10/2015 7:37:14 PM PST by Ellendra (People who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

You’ve got about a 60% understanding.

The real truth is that we don’t know what will make it through an EMP, and what will not.

We do know power generation/transmission infrastructure will be impacted significantly. The big core transformers (the ones that need trains and cranes to move them) are likely to mostly survive for a variety of highly technical reasons.

You’re wrong about rebar and underground garages, again for a variety of highly technical reasons.

Plenty of solid state tech will survive - but “it depends”

EMP is comprised of E1, E2, and E3.

You’re right, chaos would rule, as in any disaster situation.


108 posted on 02/10/2015 8:04:16 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: hlmencken3

” Make the garage into a cage with rebar, like if it was going to all be a concrete shell. Will work better than a tinfoil hat.”

rebar Won’t work. Go much finer mesh - or foil....lol.


109 posted on 02/10/2015 8:06:41 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Responsibility2nd

My bug-out vehicle can go cross-country, through water, over fences and other obstacles, and is grass-fueled. No need to stick to roads. Very practical.


110 posted on 02/10/2015 10:15:58 PM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for the ping.


111 posted on 02/10/2015 11:31:03 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: prisoner6

Ha! When I started reading about the Durango, I looked to see who posted it. I KNEW it was you! lol!


112 posted on 02/11/2015 2:59:29 AM PST by sneakers
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To: TexasCajun

That VW with camper has to be one of the ‘coolest’ things I’ve seen! ........Loved my ‘68 Bug and ‘72 Super Bug!


113 posted on 02/11/2015 3:24:06 AM PST by octex
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To: Engedi
I say again, you want an old vehicle with NO COMPUTERS.
Old school is better.
114 posted on 02/11/2015 4:16:44 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: mad_as_he$$
SHTF+RV=Zombie magnet.

True. Also Zombie BAIT!

115 posted on 02/11/2015 8:00:05 AM PST by archy
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To: prisoner6
My Generation 1 1998 Durango should be good, except for the gas mileage. Making up for that is PLENTY of power, room, 2WD, AWD, 4WD, high and 4WD low for getting into and out of remote areas or pulling stumps.

318 reliable engine. Slid plates, HUGE grill guard with WAAG for lights. Seats 8 but fold down the rear seat and get lots of room PLUS the roof rack.

Another plus... I can do burnouts at will.

And another plus: it shares that 318 V-8 with the old military Dodge M880 4x4 pickups, used until the Diesel CUCVEEs and Humvee came into use, then mostly sold off. But they still turn up in some DRMO auctions, and at reasonable prices [not a bigtime WWII collector's item, nor a Vietnam-era piece] from some surplus vehicle dealers. And they're 24-volt electrical, making for compatability with military and some aircraft radios.

116 posted on 02/11/2015 8:06:15 AM PST by archy
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To: RFEngineer

I am rather surprised that efforts have not been made to prepare for this in the USA.

In Israel, they put in a 10 year plan to make sure the grid could survive, emergency and service vehicles work, hospitals would work, key computer systems (defense, but also banking) would survive, etc. Even homes have some level of defense if made after a certain time.


117 posted on 02/11/2015 9:17:01 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“As an RV owner, I couldn’t imagine a worse nightmare than trying to drive/tow an RV when the SHTF.”

They are a pain enough to maneuver about even in good conditions.


118 posted on 02/12/2015 7:16:03 AM PST by Hardens Hollow (Formerly yorkiemom. I couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow. Join us!)
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To: wally_bert

“About a decade or so back, I wound up at the national storytelling festival in TN a few times.”

What is that? I just moved to East Tennessee, and on the way saw a sign about a storytelling center or building or something.


119 posted on 02/12/2015 8:02:34 AM PST by Hardens Hollow (Formerly yorkiemom. I couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow. Join us!)
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To: archy

Get an old hearse. People tend to leave those things alone.


120 posted on 02/12/2015 8:08:40 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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