Posted on 01/20/2015 8:41:28 AM PST by Kartographer
According to New York Newsday and WCVB in Boston, Jackson noticed the ball wasn't inflated as much as usual. He told a Colts equipment manager the ball felt under-inflated and gave it to him. The equipment man told Colts coach Chuck Pagano on the sideline. That message was relayed to Colts general manager Ryan Grigson in the press box, who told NFL director of football operations Mike Kensil, Newsday and WCVB said. Kensil told the on-field officials at halftime about the balls. Someone told Bob Kravitz of WTHR in Indianapolis, because he broke the story of the Patriots possibly deflating their game footballs which would help them throw and catch it better in the rain and now the NFL is looking into it.
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So... they didn’t have elephantiasis?
Let's face it, if your opponent is running through your defense with ease, it doesn't really matter if he was carrying a ball or a loaf of bread.
This sounds like a non-story. It may have been interesting if it was a close game, but it wasn't.
I forgot about them!
I know! Makes you wonder why the Patriots got fined for video taping the Jets sideline signals, I mean the Patriots won 38 to 14. What difference did it make?
Did you expect teams to play with each others balls?
>> didnt the Colts play with the same balls?
Judging by the final score about ALL the colts did during the game was play with their balls. Whether they fiddled with their own or each other’s, I do not know.
“The ball had no effect on the game.”
As a former player and coach, I can tell you that is completely false. Teams deflate balls all the time in cold weather to get an edge. A fully inflated ball is a rock in the cold and easier to fumble.
Cheating is rampant in the NFL and NCAA. It is also covered up to protect the institutions. I stopped watching years ago.
They played the Patriots last Sunday................
“So the ball in question changed hands 3 times...twice by Colts personnel. This Jackson person had no opportunity to do some deflation? Did he? I hope any investigation takes this into account. The train of evidence has corrupted.”
Put a fork in it, looks like the Colts deflated it to me.
>> This sounds like a non-story.
Oh, definitely. Unless you’re a whining loser. Or the fans of a whining loser.
And we Beavis and Butthead types do appreciate the opportunity to crack endless lame jokes that include the word “balls”. We’ll get tired of it eventually, but it’s fun for now.
One would hope
>> A fully inflated ball is a rock in the cold and easier to fumble.
Be that as it may — colts lost one fumble. I didn’t see the game so I don’t know if that accounted for any points, but at most it would explain seven patriot points.
Colts got beat by thirty-eight.
Maybe, but even if he didn't, that only takes away 21 points.
How does the ball matter?
What you can’t count are the fumbles that did not occur by the Pats because the ball was underinflated and easier to hang on to.
I still think it is a non-issue in regards to the W/L outcome of the game.
The ref’s touch the ball at every down. If it weren’t inflated they should have known.
I don’t know anything about football, but as an old bicycle racer my subconscious sends all sorts of warning signs to me when there is something wrong with a fellow rider’s bike... Until I figure it out and say “hey buddy check your such-and-such.” As a serious motorist I also invariably notice if someone’s lug nuts are missing (or in some cases loose.) If you really know the tools of a sport (or your work,) you see things others can’t see, and it bothers you, even before you consciously figure out what is going on.
>> What you cant count are the fumbles that did not occur by the Pats
Sure, in the same way that you can’t count the number of yards not made by the colt offense because they played sucky all day.
It’s a fool’s errand though. The score tells the real story.
I heard the Pat’s inflated their goal kicking balls with half air and half helium.
Yeah, that’s why I said, “I still think it is a non-issue in regards to the W/L outcome of the game.”
But I was pointing out that the issue is not how many times the Colts fumbled, but how many times the Pats did not fumble. Not fumbling, better passing, easier catching being the reasons for deflating footballs in the first place, none of those are measurable in a single game.
I am not completely convinced that the Pats played with deflated footballs in any case. As has been pointed out before, the officials handle the ball every down, so they SHOULD have noticed the difference.
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