Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Toddler accidentally shoots Hayden Walmart shopper (Killed his mother)
KREM ^

Posted on 12/30/2014 12:52:36 PM PST by sunmars

HAYDEN, Idaho—Employees evacuated the Hayden Walmart on Tuesday following a shooting inside the store.

Authorities on the scene around 11:15 a.m. described the shooting as "accidental."

A woman was shopping with four kids, when one of the kids reached into her purse and accidentally discharged the weapon, according to Kootenai County Sheriff's Deputies at the scene.

The gunshot killed the 29-year-old woman. Deputies on scene said the child who accidentally fired the handgun was about 2-years-old.

Deputies said the woman and children were in the back of the store near the electronics area when it happened. Deputies said the woman was in town for holidays and is not from the area.

Video surveillance in the store, along with eye witness testimony helped deputies determine that this was an accident.

Authorities said the woman did have a concealed weapons permit.

The store is currently closed.

(Excerpt) Read more at krem.com ...


TOPICS:
KEYWORDS: accidentaldischarge; banglist; idaho; shooting
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 101-120121-140141-160161-178 next last
To: Secret Agent Man

I was just thinking, of all the crap that is in a purse, why would you have the safety off?


141 posted on 12/30/2014 4:34:05 PM PST by rabidralph
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Lazamataz

Only takes a quick rack to make it Condition 4.
-—==0==-—
Assuming you always have the use of both hands. Better option: Check out a Saf-T-Blok for Glocks and ignore the ‘Boy Scout’ on You Tube or find and view his ultimate commentary.

https://www.clipdraw.com/store/index.php?rn=396&action=show_detail

Their Clip Draw for the Glock has obvious merit.....


142 posted on 12/30/2014 4:43:16 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Usagi_yo
Yea, it’s all fun and games until somebody loses a mother right?

Can you read. I'll try again. A woman carrying a semi-auto off body who needs to round up her kids, thumb the safety and rack the slide when an attacker has the initiative might as well carry a leaded club. What's fun and games have to do with anything. You may disagree with me but why be terminally dense about it.

143 posted on 12/30/2014 4:45:58 PM PST by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: Lazamataz
Glock, probably. I usually stay at Condition 3, not 4, with a Glock. Only takes a quick rack to make it Condition 4.

I have a Glock and a Makarov w/safety. I find I can rack the Glock in about same amount of time as it takes to unlock the safety on the Mack. Plus sound effects can sometimes be a deterrent.

144 posted on 12/30/2014 4:46:26 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

The above for all of the “Glockaphobe” on this thread.


145 posted on 12/30/2014 4:49:20 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 142 | View Replies]

To: mylife
Zimmerman is alive.

And Zimmermanns gun was DA only

Yes, alive only because he was carrying with a round in the chamber.

Zimmerman's gun a KelTec PF9- Yes, DA only but with a 5lb trigger pull, no manual safety. Trigger pull about the same as a Glock.

146 posted on 12/30/2014 4:50:12 PM PST by Jed Eckert (Wolverines!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 124 | View Replies]

To: DJ Taylor

She needed a MIC holster to cover the trigger. http://www.themicholster.com


147 posted on 12/30/2014 4:50:58 PM PST by Benito Cereno
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Poser
Perhaps they stop accidental discharge from dropped weapons, but pretty much anything that pushes the trigger with about 5 pounds of pressure makes it shoot. Glock can call it a safety, but it don’t.

George Zimmerman would probably disagree. No, he wasn't carrying a Glock. He had a KelTec PF9- no manual safety, DA only, trigger pull 5 lbs and a live round in the chamber.

KELTEC

In the end all that matters is for you to carry what you are comfortable and confident with. I transitioned from carrying a revolver to carrying a Glock. I have a good custom holster and I always keep my finger off the trigger until ready to shoot. The most important safety is the one between our ears.

148 posted on 12/30/2014 5:07:17 PM PST by Jed Eckert (Wolverines!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 136 | View Replies]

To: Stentor

Yea, and when the women gets home and puts her purse on the counter .... Just like leaving a loaded gun out.

Your answer is bogus dude/ette. No reason to be carrying a pistol in a purse with a round chambered and no safety. I assume it was a semi-automatic without a safety. Yea, if she was carrying on her person that’s a different story, though I could still make an argument that it’s still necessary to have a round chamber.

In her purse, she is not in direct control of the gun. When you’re not in direct control of the gun, don’t keep a round in the chamber. That’s just as culpable as laying it on the counter loaded and chambered.

It’s common sense to all but those that live in a modern day fantasy western.

Safety is 99% awareness. Both in carrying and in conducting yourself while traveling to and from your car.


149 posted on 12/30/2014 5:25:33 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Coming events caste their shadow beforehand.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 143 | View Replies]

To: SgtHooper

Agreed.


150 posted on 12/30/2014 5:25:50 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Coming events caste their shadow beforehand.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: Benito Cereno

Bottom line, never carry a Glock in anything that wasn’t designed specifically for a Glock pistol. Glock designed and marketed holsters completely enclose and protect the trigger and the trigger can’t be pulled as long as it’s in the holster, so the holster is, in effect, the only safety the pistol has. The pistol can’t be fired as long as it’s in its holster, so removing it from the holster is taking it off safety and returning it to its holster is putting it back on safe.

I’ve been carrying Glocks now for over 24 years and I’m comfortable carrying one, but I don’t like being around others who do. I’ve just seen too many accidental discharges with Glocks by people who really don’t know how to safely carry them.


151 posted on 12/30/2014 5:28:12 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 147 | View Replies]

To: rabidralph

not all guns have safeties. and some people believe if they are out in public if they have to pull their gun out they don’t want the safety on.

and in certain parts of town i can see where i’d not want the safety on.


152 posted on 12/30/2014 5:39:15 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 141 | View Replies]

To: Poser
Perhaps they stop accidental discharge from dropped weapons, but pretty much anything that pushes the trigger with about 5 pounds of pressure makes it shoot. Glock can call it a safety, but it don’t. I use my Glock 17 at the range, but would never carry it with a round in the chamber.

I usually carry a .38 snubby, but I also have a Glock. The .38 is for when I don't expect trouble. The Glock is for when I expect to be in a bad area after dark.

153 posted on 12/30/2014 5:52:45 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.b>)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 136 | View Replies]

To: DJ Taylor
Bottom line, never carry a Glock in anything that wasn’t designed specifically for a Glock pistol. Glock designed and marketed holsters completely enclose and protect the trigger and the trigger can’t be pulled as long as it’s in the holster, so the holster is, in effect, the only safety the pistol has. The pistol can’t be fired as long as it’s in its holster, so removing it from the holster is taking it off safety and returning it to its holster is putting it back on safe.

Spot on. The properly-designed holster is the Glock's safety. DO NOT carry a Glock without a properly designed holster.

154 posted on 12/30/2014 5:59:36 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.b>)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 151 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man

Yes, you are correct on all counts. I’ve never seen a CC purse so I don’t know how a gun is secured in it. It’s a shame this woman did not recognize the danger of her grabby baby getting into her purse.


155 posted on 12/30/2014 6:04:38 PM PST by rabidralph
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 152 | View Replies]

To: PapaBear3625
"DO NOT carry a Glock without a properly designed holster.

This is fairly well known today, but back in 1989 when I was first issued a Glock 17 and required to carry it, none of us had a good understanding of how unsafe that pistol is.

We learned the hard way.

156 posted on 12/30/2014 7:11:57 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 154 | View Replies]

To: rabidralph

my speculation is that they said the child was two years old - this may have been the first time the kid was able to do such a thing. mom may have ever even thought it could appen b/c the kid was too young to do such a thing, before.


157 posted on 12/30/2014 8:16:18 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 155 | View Replies]

To: sunmars

The Seattle Times article on the shooting closed with a completely unnecessary sentence about how the shooting took place in a politically conservative town. That was the dog whistle for the leftist Seattleites to pollute the comments section with gloating and glee.


158 posted on 12/30/2014 8:23:53 PM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bunkerhill7

Idaho is an open carry state, concealed carry w. permit (I believe), but that means concealed on one’s person. Sadly, the owner of this piece was guilty of terminal carelessness.


159 posted on 12/30/2014 9:13:11 PM PST by Elsiejay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Yaelle

That’s good that your friend’s child doesn’t remember.

Hopefully this child won’t remember what happened, either. Unfortunately, the woman’s other children were there, too, though.

Whatever happens, all of this woman’s children are going to need lots of prayer. Such a shame.


160 posted on 12/30/2014 10:37:03 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 140 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 101-120121-140141-160161-178 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson