Posted on 12/26/2014 11:03:58 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski
Considering Joel Osteen's well-documented acceptance of just about anyone who believes almost anything, it should come as no surprise that the senior pastor of the mammoth Lakewood Church in Houston believes President Obama's assertion that he is a Christiandespite his numerous unbiblical beliefs, such as "there are many paths to the same place."
Osteen's comments came in an interview with Wolf Blitzer of CNN Friday on his news program, The Situation Room. Osteen says he has been to prayer breakfasts and other events with Barack Obama and heard him express his faith, redemption and salvation.
"I just believe in my heart that he's a Christian," Osteen said. "He says he is."
(Excerpt) Read more at charismanews.com ...
Takes one to know one ..... uh, wait a minute ....
Does a real Christian refer to the Bible as the good book while always refers the Koran as the holy Koran?
Does a Christian call Jesus a son of God (general term for all the Humanity) instead of the unigénito the only begotten son of God Father?
10 Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam Contrasted With 10 Quotes By Barack Obama About Christianity
Michael Snyder September 28, 2013
http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/09/contrast-barack-obamas-quotes-islam-quotes-christianity/
10 Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam
#1”Islam has always been part of America”
#2”we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”
#3”These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islams role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
#4”America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
#5”So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
#6”Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”
#7”As a young man, I worked in Chicago communities where many found dignity and peace in their Muslim faith.”
#8”I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”
#9”That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
#10”I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”
10 Quotes By Barack Obama About Christianity
#1”Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
#2”We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”
#3”Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”
#4”Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages - the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity - are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”
#5”The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics.”
#6 From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same pposition- nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”
#7”I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”
#8”Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke Gods will—they have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”
#9On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount.”
#10 “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”
Hmmm......Do Christians go to Islamic schools? News to me.
The Obama I laid in the bowl this morning was gold.
I still flushed it.
The fact that osteen has any popularity demonstrates how ignorant Americans are of what constitutes Christianity.
Completely agree with you.
If Mr. Osteen is right,you’d think Obama would be more concerned about the plight of persecuted Christians around the world than to a few criminals who died for defying the law,or telling us how Islam is a peaceful religion,etc.,etc.
I highly doubt Osteen knows anything about Christians or Christianity.
Rev. Ike Osteen!
Your best commie now.
What an utter fraud. It must be tough when you are running for the position of False Prophet against Ayatollah al-Franziz and Rick Warren.
Osteen believes Obama, just because Obama claims to be a Christian? Why believe him at all? Has he ever uttered a sincerely honest statement in his life?
Here’s one from 2006:
Source: http://www.simplysharing.com/assuringlight/obama.htm
So, I have a deep faith. Im rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people, that there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and that theres an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived.” (snip)
He is saying, essentially, that all people of faith Christians, Jews, Muslims, animists, everyone know the same God. It is, perhaps, an unlikely theological position for someone who places his faith squarely at the feet of Jesus to take. But that depends on how you hear a verse from the Gospel of St. John, where Jesus says, I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me, Obama says.
What would Joel Osteen know about what it takes to be a Chistian?
I believe I am a 57 Chevy...doesn’t make me one..
>> “I just believe in my heart that he’s a Christian,” Osteen said. “He says he is.”
I’m no fan of Osteen, but every word he utters is “from the heart.” And I doubt he’s about to accuse POTUS of being a liar; “He says he is [Christian.]”
Agree whole heartedly .
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