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Human Ancestors Were Consuming Alcohol 10 Million Years Ago
Discover 'blogs ^ | December 1, 2014 | Carl Engelking

Posted on 12/25/2014 4:40:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: Regulator

Some things never change :)


21 posted on 12/25/2014 5:23:08 PM PST by RedMDer (I don't listen to Liars but when I do I know it's Barack Obama.)
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To: SunkenCiv
I'm no expert on evolution, but help me out here:

Evolution is random, right? It's not like a species decides: "I'd like to fly" and then, over millions of years, it develops wings. In fact, a species may experience genetic drift sort of "in the direction of" wings. And some of these minor genetic changes may impact some unforeseen advantage to offspring and therefore be preserved, and so over time this generic drifting may reach the point where some level of flight is possible.

The wings were not made on purpose, or for any reason, they just happened because tiny genetic changes occurred and wound up being useful at some point.

So, the fact that humans COULD metabolize ADH4 does not in any way provide evidence that we were consuming alcohol, right?

AT SOME POINT we consumed alcohol, and our ability to metabolize ADH4 came in handy then. But it's not like we specifically developed this genetic trait BECAUSE we were drinking alcohol -- that would veer toward Lamarckism, right?

So they have no idea when we started drinking alcohol.

22 posted on 12/25/2014 5:24:15 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Democrats have a lynch mob mentality. They always have.)
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To: Gen.Blather

It has also been known to aid in some peoples chances of reproduction.


23 posted on 12/25/2014 5:26:53 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: ClearCase_guy
So they have no idea when we started drinking alcohol.

Yep... but they're being paid to come up with a date.....

24 posted on 12/25/2014 5:29:17 PM PST by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: kjam22

again, read past the intro.

Reading is FUNdamental!


25 posted on 12/25/2014 5:32:22 PM PST by freedumb2003 (AGW: Settled Science? If so, there would only be one model and it would agree with measurements)
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To: ClearCase_guy

>>Evolution is random, right?<<

Wrong


26 posted on 12/25/2014 5:34:02 PM PST by freedumb2003 (AGW: Settled Science? If so, there would only be one model and it would agree with measurements)
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To: freedumb2003
One theory holds that primates regularly ingested ethanol some 80 million years ago as plants started producing fleshy fruits that could drop and ferment on the ground. Other scientists believe humans started enjoying ethanol just 9,000 years ago when we learned how to ferment foodstuffs.

The new idea is that it wasn't 80 million years ago ... it was only 10 million. But as far as we know...the other scientists still believe it was when people learned to ferment foodstuffs. 9,000 years ago.

27 posted on 12/25/2014 5:37:12 PM PST by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: freedumb2003

Neither group has a real clue....


28 posted on 12/25/2014 5:38:06 PM PST by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: ClearCase_guy
So they have no idea when we started drinking alcohol.

We were genetically designed by space aliens. We learned to drink in order to deal with the grief of them abducting our cows and women all the time. Space jerks is more like it.

29 posted on 12/25/2014 5:46:56 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee

What are you lookin’ at?


30 posted on 12/25/2014 5:47:35 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: kjam22

you didn’t read it.

I give up


31 posted on 12/25/2014 5:50:19 PM PST by freedumb2003 (AGW: Settled Science? If so, there would only be one model and it would agree with measurements)
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To: freedumb2003

I read it....


32 posted on 12/25/2014 5:51:23 PM PST by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: freedumb2003
You argue like a Liberal. No logical thought, no well argued case. No explanations needed. Just snarky comments, because you know you're right, and you know everyone else is beneath you.

Proponents of Evolution have a lot in common with Global Warming cultists. But, if you're in the cult, you think it's all Science and you look down on fools who just aren't operating at your level of advanced understanding.

33 posted on 12/25/2014 5:55:39 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Democrats have a lynch mob mentality. They always have.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I wasn’t arguing TtoE. I was stating a fact.

You don’t waste time going jnto ad hominum.

ho hum


34 posted on 12/25/2014 5:59:58 PM PST by freedumb2003 (AGW: Settled Science? If so, there would only be one model and it would agree with measurements)
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To: kjam22

then you ignored it.

Hey if that is your learning style I will let you be.


35 posted on 12/25/2014 6:01:20 PM PST by freedumb2003 (AGW: Settled Science? If so, there would only be one model and it would agree with measurements)
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To: RedMDer

*Burp*

-JT


36 posted on 12/25/2014 6:03:30 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: SunkenCiv

The crap that tax dollars are being wasted on. 10 million years ago? Really? Junk evolution so-called science. Wonder why the college students are getting dumber by the hour.


37 posted on 12/25/2014 6:04:01 PM PST by Busko
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To: freedumb2003

There’s nothing to learn there :) That’s the point....


38 posted on 12/25/2014 6:08:11 PM PST by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: kjam22

>>There’s nothing to learn there <<

For some, that is true.


39 posted on 12/25/2014 6:10:15 PM PST by freedumb2003 (AGW: Settled Science? If so, there would only be one model and it would agree with measurements)
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To: SunkenCiv

Not to stir up the evolutionists in the crowd too much, my master changed water into wine at a wedding one time, and that’s enough for me. Got that info from my Uncle Emmitt who was once a Baptist preacher who believed it was grape juice not real wine. Of course uncle finally died and was cremated. Nearly burned down the crematory.

Sorry if I have offended any Baptists or evolutionists.


40 posted on 12/25/2014 6:11:57 PM PST by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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