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College Football Playoff Bracket - Dec 7
December 7, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 12/07/2014 9:43:17 AM PST by C19fan

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To: GunRunner

That game against Kansas really hurt TCU in the end.

It’s hard to make an argument that the Big 12 was any better in quality than the Big 10.

And OU’s loss to OK State sealed the deal.


121 posted on 12/07/2014 9:44:38 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Why the hell not put them in a bowl game together (Baylor/TCU)?

They got some good bowl matchups to look forward to though, although I would have liked to have seen one of them play Mississippi State.

122 posted on 12/07/2014 9:50:07 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

My fear is that now a lot of these bowl games are going to be complete duds. It’s like the NIT now, nobody is enthusiastic about them, that’s the downside of a playoff.

It’s also the curse of players leaving early for the NFL, now the most talented teams really won’t be motivated, because all the players are thinking about is not getting hurt and jeopardizing their draft position.


123 posted on 12/07/2014 10:12:03 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: GunRunner

They didn’t lose to a 6 loss team,

...not only did they not lose by two touchdowns at home to a six loss team, they also did not have to play two overtimes to beat another...your points concerning Baylor and Kansas pale in comparison to OSU’s slip-ups...

...instead of trying to end the conversation, why don’t you expand it, and acknowledge the obvious takeaway from all this...prestige and fannies in the seats mean more than on field body of work with those that run the game...

...you know, that old chestnut ‘the more things change...’ and all that sort of thing...


124 posted on 12/08/2014 2:43:55 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: dfwgator

That game against Kansas really hurt TCU in the end.

...but of course OSU’s putrid performance against Penn St didn’t...


125 posted on 12/08/2014 2:46:00 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: dfwgator

I agree the gambit to try and score two berths by declaring co-champions hurt the Big 12. They even ran a commercial that said “One True Champion” and then didn’t pick one.


126 posted on 12/08/2014 3:17:10 AM PST by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

I am looking forward to Oregon showing the ACC that FSU is lucky,overrated and played a weak schedule.

53-3


127 posted on 12/08/2014 4:29:44 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: GunRunner

And TCU put up 58 on them. Team that had the ball last won the game. A bad game for both teams.


128 posted on 12/08/2014 5:54:56 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus")
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To: IrishBrigade
You can blame it on an internal political conspiracy about tickets and fan base, but it's pretty clear that an early season loss to a 6-6 team that ended up being bowl eligible did not overshadow the Big-10 championship game, and that the TCU-Kansas game, amount of points scored on TCU during the Baylor loss, and the lack of a Big 12 championship game sealed the deal.

You should blame the Big 12 commissioner for wrecking the conference, not the Playoff Committee who made the common sense decision.

129 posted on 12/08/2014 6:14:02 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

You can blame it on an internal political conspiracy about tickets and fan base,

...I can do so, and all the rest of us can do so, as it is glaringly obvious to all but the most myopic Big Ten fanbase...

an early season loss to a 6-6 team that ended up being bowl eligible did not overshadow the Big-10 championship game, and that the TCU-Kansas game

...if you are in fact a BIG fan, I know I have to be patient, but it’s tough...so, in Big Ten land, a four point victory is worse than a fourteen point home loss in figuring post-season positioning...ok, gotcha...

amount of points scored on TCU during the Baylor loss

...Baylor scored 60 or better four times, and over 45 nine times...it’s what they do...if OSU played them instead of Neolithic BIG offenses (MU, PSU, Maryland) they’d have given up points too...then what would your argument be...?

and the lack of a Big 12 championship game sealed the deal.

...why not just admit it...it’s not that hard...prestige and a big fanbase sealed the deal...really, there’s no shame in admitting it, the playoff committee itself clearly believes it...so who are you not to...?


130 posted on 12/08/2014 6:53:33 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade
Nope, I'm not in Big Ten country. I'm in Texas, and even the Baylor fans I know are disappointed, but acknowledge that their fate was sealed with a lack of a conference championship game coupled with OSU's overwhelming victory.

I would have much rather seen TCU or Baylor play Alabama, as I think they'd have a better shot.

I just letting you know how impartial observers with no stake in the game view it.

131 posted on 12/08/2014 7:00:16 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: C19fan

You know what I’m doing if I’m the Pac-12 today, I’m calling BYU and Boise State and asking them to join, and stop them from joining the Big 12, to get to 12 teams. Then they’ll be reduced to begging schools like SMU to join.

The other conferences would love to weaken the Big 12 even more, to discourage the best players from going to their schools.

But hey, Texas, you got The Longhorn Network.


132 posted on 12/08/2014 7:08:10 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: GunRunner

I just letting you know how impartial observers with no stake in the game view it

...ok, you’re impartial...yet you still advanced the argument that a 14 point home loss trumped a four point road victory for post season shuffling...

...need to explain that rationale a little more...


133 posted on 12/08/2014 7:25:25 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade
Already have. The Ohio State loss was early in the season (2nd game) with a new QB and new offensive line, and TCU gave up 61 points in a loss, Baylor gave up 58 points at home.

How can I not be any clearer on this? Do I need to use finger puppets?

134 posted on 12/08/2014 7:35:04 AM PST by GunRunner
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Do I need to use finger puppets?

...ah, breaking out the snark...sure sign of a poor debating position...

The Ohio State loss was early in the season (2nd game) with a new QB and new offensive line

...what a ridiculous excuse...which by the way, didn’t help them all year in the selection process until, voila, it’s time to actually select the four teams...convenient, isn’t it...?


135 posted on 12/08/2014 7:56:25 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade
didn’t help them all year in the selection process until, voila, it’s time to actually select the four teams...convenient, isn’t it...?

You're right, it must have been the 59-0 win over a 10-2 team in a conference championship that did it.

TCU didn't even PLAY a 10 win team this year.

136 posted on 12/08/2014 8:03:36 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

I think also the bottom line is look at the score between the two 61-58.

I think the committee was uneasy about letting in a team that gave up so many points in a game, after seeing Ohio State pitch a shutout.


137 posted on 12/08/2014 8:13:05 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
I made that same argument a bunch of times. Baylor and TCU putting up a basketball score against each other, coupled with the Big 10 championship game pretty much sealed it.

This is what it looks like from an objective position, but not to the Baylor/TCU fans here who insist they are being treated unfairly, and are blaming various conspiracies about tickets and boosters.

138 posted on 12/08/2014 8:20:02 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: dfwgator

I just looked at yesterday’s college hoops scores, and out of 64 teams that played, 20 of them scored fewer points in a basketball game than Baylor scored on TCU.


139 posted on 12/08/2014 8:22:50 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

I don’t think the Gators basketball team has scored that many in a game all year.


140 posted on 12/08/2014 8:23:27 AM PST by dfwgator
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