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Richard III's DNA throws up infidelity surprise
BBC ^ | 12-2-14 | Paul Rincon

Posted on 12/02/2014 4:36:01 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic

Analysis of DNA from Richard III has thrown up a surprise: evidence of infidelity in his family tree.

Scientists who studied genetic material from remains found in a Leicester car park say the finding might have profound historical implications.

Depending on where in the family tree it occurred, it could cast doubt on the Tudor claim to the English throne or, indeed, on Richard's.

The study is published in the journal Nature Communications.

But the scientists would not be drawn on what meaning it might have - if any - for the current Royal Family, as it was still unknown when the break, or breaks, in the lineage occurred.

In 2012, scientists extracted genetic material from the remains discovered on the former site of Greyfriars Abbey, where Richard was interred after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485.

'Overwhelming evidence'

Their analysis shows that DNA passed down on the maternal side matches that of living relatives, but genetic information passed down on the male side does not.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: battleofbosworth; bosworth; britain; circularargument; franciscans; genetics; godsgravesglyphs; greyfriarsabbey; helixmakemineadouble; leicester; monarchy; paleotolongy; richardiii; royals; succession; tudor; tudors; tudorusurpers
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1 posted on 12/02/2014 4:36:02 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


2 posted on 12/02/2014 4:36:24 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Infidelity in the royal family??????L!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not possible!!!!!!!


3 posted on 12/02/2014 4:37:37 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Freeeedooooommmmmmmm!


4 posted on 12/02/2014 4:41:56 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: afraidfortherepublic

In what way is infidelity a “surprise” in a royal family?

Reporters write such stupid things some times.


5 posted on 12/02/2014 4:42:53 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I think the number of monarchs of the UK/England that were faithful could be counted on less than 10 digits. And that takes into account that it was expect of the Kings to have mistresses.


6 posted on 12/02/2014 4:44:39 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Perhaps it means the body is not Richard III.


7 posted on 12/02/2014 4:55:13 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: afraidfortherepublic

A black knight in the wood pile?


8 posted on 12/02/2014 4:57:15 PM PST by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever!)
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To: zeestephen

I don’t think so. I just watched a whole program on this on the Smithsonian Channel, and I think the evidence is pretty clear. The body is a match genetically to Richar III’s female ancestral line, the scoliosis of the spine fits, the age of the bones, the location of the skeleton, the wounds, etc. Even the forensic reconstruction of the face matches known paintings of him.


9 posted on 12/02/2014 4:59:42 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’m pretty sure they did a programming with Tony Robinson that stated their mother had an affair with a French Arthur and couldn’t have been conceived by his purported Royal father because he was elswhere at the time he would have been conceived. Maybe it was the same with the other two brothers, including Richard III. The true heir was the late Michael Abney Hastings, a Scottish aristocrat and Australian citizen...


10 posted on 12/02/2014 5:02:54 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Now for the continuing saga: Who is the true king or queen of Great Britain, since Richard III’s descendants are not blood royalty?


11 posted on 12/02/2014 5:05:15 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
I watched that program too. Here's a link to an article about Hastings' passing, along with some background info about the program:

The Man Who Should Be King

12 posted on 12/02/2014 5:14:15 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: GreyFriar

Richard III’s descendants are not on the British throne. Richard’s cousin took the throne and his line ended with Elizabeth I who had no descendents.


13 posted on 12/02/2014 5:14:57 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Meh, they need to check out the Hanoverians....
The throne should be occupied by the Jacobites, not the present German usurpers.....me thinks.


14 posted on 12/02/2014 5:17:46 PM PST by matginzac
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To: mass55th

Different program. I saw that one too.

I was referring to a new program about the discovery and identification of Richard III’s bones in a car park in Britain and the location of living relatives.


15 posted on 12/02/2014 5:19:23 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This all started when the Carolinians usurped the throne from the Merovingians.


16 posted on 12/02/2014 5:47:15 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: matginzac
Bob and Tom -- Tim Wilson -- King Of England
17 posted on 12/02/2014 5:48:01 PM PST by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ..
Thanks afraidfortherepublic. Gosh, no Tudor claim to the throne? How surprising. It's almost as if a group of inbreds better suited to selling postcards to tourists don't belong in an overpaid position of social stratification that has long been antiquated and repudiated.


18 posted on 12/02/2014 5:56:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: zeestephen

Come now, don’t be so logical. :’)


19 posted on 12/02/2014 5:57:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: matginzac
The Wittelsbachs have the best genealogical claim...but they are German too.

None of the kings of England have a legitimate claim since the usurpation in 1066 by William of Normandy.

20 posted on 12/02/2014 6:01:05 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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