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HE'S GIVING THEM ALL SSNs?????
11/21/14 | originalbuckeye

Posted on 11/21/2014 5:55:30 AM PST by originalbuckeye

This will certainly collapse the SS system much more quickly than ever. Adding 5,000,000 people to the SS rolls, who HAVENT PAID INTO THE SYSTEM, is a slap in the face to hard working Americans who have been supporting this system for decades.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: amnesty; illegals
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To: Raycpa

Except that half of the illegals will be on disability benefits within a few years, draining it dry.


21 posted on 11/21/2014 6:05:40 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: tanknetter

You can work if you get a taxpayer ID number which is different from a SSN.


22 posted on 11/21/2014 6:05:55 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

by law (which seems to be irrelevant now) anyone born in 1929 or later needs 10 years of work (40 credits) to be eligible for retirement benefits.


23 posted on 11/21/2014 6:06:02 AM PST by maddog55
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To: Diogenesis; txrefugee; MNDude; FlingWingFlyer

Over 2.5 million of those immigrants are Muslims, think about that? and 80,000 in 2014 and promised income at least $100,000 yr....What?

http://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/2013/02/10/obama-allows-80000-muslim-immigrants-into-the-united-states/

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Muslim-immigrants-security-threat/2014/09/24/id/596742/

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/09/24/Report-Nearly-2-5-Million-Immigrants-From-Predominantly-Muslim-Countries-Reside-Inside-U-S-Right-Now


24 posted on 11/21/2014 6:06:02 AM PST by Kackikat
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To: originalbuckeye

I guess its time to get a couple more for our secret identities.


25 posted on 11/21/2014 6:06:46 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: Raycpa
actually SS is a bad investment, a Ponzi scheme.

You get older people signed up who don't pay in any more than their 40 quarters for eligibility, and making low wages, it's a great investment. The other thing is Obamacare. Who's going to subsidize that?

26 posted on 11/21/2014 6:07:33 AM PST by grania
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To: maddog55

10 years?? Most of us have already or will be contributing for 40+ years! NOT RIGHT!!


27 posted on 11/21/2014 6:08:13 AM PST by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: NEMDF

See#24 and how many Muslims immigrants are involved...not just Hispanics.


28 posted on 11/21/2014 6:08:16 AM PST by Kackikat
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To: Don Corleone

My first thought, exactly.


29 posted on 11/21/2014 6:08:52 AM PST by fhayek
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To: originalbuckeye

5 million is the number they are telling us. It’s probably at least triple that!

F U B O!


30 posted on 11/21/2014 6:09:39 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: maddog55

Not if they can qualify for social security disability.

There are many instances where legal immigrants where granted SSD because they could not speak English.


31 posted on 11/21/2014 6:09:50 AM PST by Glennb51
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To: blackdog

You are exactly right. Our evil nature got the better of us and the negative consequences are spilling over the border with the beckoning hand of our Thug Government.


32 posted on 11/21/2014 6:09:54 AM PST by februus
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To: originalbuckeye


33 posted on 11/21/2014 6:10:04 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: originalbuckeye

Now they won’t know the difference in their Obama cell phone numbers and their social security numbers


34 posted on 11/21/2014 6:13:14 AM PST by hoe_cake ( Society of the Descendants of the Signers of the Constitution)
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To: originalbuckeye

He’s not giving SS#’s, as far as I can determine.

He will slow boat or eliminate deportations.

Bad enough but, in the next fee days I’m going to write a position paper, explaining the real effects of his edict.

Don’t get me wrong, what he did was unlawful but, the actual effects aren’t as accretive as he and his apparachicks wish or hope for.

Be patient and wait for my thoughts.

I think it will be illuminating...

It’s good news and bad news fir both sides but, will be an interesting and informative tome.

The effects the Dems are looking to achieve are pie in the sky but, still bad.

However, as bad as his attempt to play king are, they aren’t actually, from a numerical standpoint, a home run for illegals.

It’ll be an eye opener for sure.


35 posted on 11/21/2014 6:13:16 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: originalbuckeye
I think the five million are adults.. some have children as these Census and BLS statistics show.. the figures include "undocumented immigrants" but the government does not show them separate.

FOREIGN-BORN WORKERS: LABOR FORCE CHARACTERISTICS — 2013

Table 2. Employment status of the foreign-born and native-born populations 16 years and over by presence and age of youngest child and sex, 2012-2013 annual averages [Numbers in thousands] Characteristic 2012 2013

The foreign born include legally-admitted immigrants, refugees, temporary residents such as students and temporary workers, and undocumented immigrants.

Highlights from the 2013 data:
In 2013, foreign-born mothers with children under 18 years old were less likely to be labor force participants than were native-born mothers—59.7 percent versus 72.7 percent. Labor force participation differences between foreign-born and native-born mothers were greater among those with younger children than among those with older children. The labor force participation rate of foreign-born mothers with children under age 6 was 51.2 percent in 2013, much lower than that for native-born mothers with children under age 6, at 67.4 percent. Among women with children under age 3, the participation rate for the foreign born (46.7 percent) was 18.2 percentage points below that for nativeborn mothers (64.9 percent). The labor force participation rates of foreign-born and native-born fathers with children under age 18 were similar, at 93.6 percent and 92.6 percent, respectively. (See table 2.)

Formerly "undocumented immigrants" now (soon to be) legal residents and eligible for all government benefits "for the children." Ain't America wonderful? Again.. these Census / BLS data do not distinguish legal immigrants from ILLEGAL "immigrants".

Characteristic 2012 2013
Total Men Women Total Men Women
FOREIGN BORN
With own children under 18
Civilian noninstitutional population 14,796 6,896 7,901 14,838 6,886 7,952
....Civilian labor force 11,229 6,466 4,763 11,189 6,442 4,747
........Participation rate 75.9 93.8 60.3 75.4 93.6 59.7
........Employed 10,378 6,063 4,315 10,494 6,114 4,380
.................Employment-population ratio 70.1 87.9 54.6 70.7 88.8 55.1
........Unemployed 851 403 448 695 328 367
.................Unemployment rate 7.6 6.2 9.4 6.2 5.1 7.7
With own children 6 to 17, none younger
Civilian noninstitutional population 7,896 3,576 4,319 8,003 3,622 4,381
....Civilian labor force 6,223 3,326 2,897 6,265 3,347 2,918
........Participation rate 78.8 93.0 67.1 78.3 92.4 66.6
........Employed 5,753 3,115 2,638 5,870 3,167 2,703
.............Employment-population ratio 72.9 87.1 61.1 73.3 87.4 61.7
........Unemployed 469 211 259 395 180 215
............Unemployment rate 7.5 6.3 8.9 6.3 5.4 7.4
With own children under 6
Civilian noninstitutional population 6,901 3,319 3,581 6,835 3,264 3,572
.....Civilian labor force 5,006 3,140 1,865 4,924 3,094 1,829
........Participation rate 72.5 94.6 52.1 72.0 94.8 51.2
........Employed 4,625 2,948 1,677 4,624 2,947 1,677
............Employment-population ratio 67.0 88.8 46.8 67.7 90.3 47.0
........Unemployed 381 192 189 299 147 152
............Unemployment rate 7.6 6.1 10.1 6.1 4.8 8.3
With own children under 3
Civilian noninstitutional population 3,828 1,864 1,964 3,736 1,809 1,927
....Civilian labor force 2,697 1,772 925 2,614 1,715 899
........Participation rate 70.5 95.1 47.1 70.0 94.8 46.7
........Employed 2,497 1,671 827 2,464 1,638 826
............Employment-population ratio 65.2 89.6 42.1 66.0 90.6 42.9
........Unemployed 200 101 98 150 77 74
........Unemployment rate 7.4 5.7 10.6 5.7 4.5 8.2
With no own children under 18
Civilian noninstitutional population 22,930 11,469 11,461 23,324 11,657 11,667
....Civilian labor force 13,797 7,958 5,840 14,139 8,173 5,966
........Participation rate 60.2 69.4 51.0 60.6 70.1 51.1
........Employed 12,628 7,279 5,348 13,087 7,563 5,524
............Employment-population ratio 55.1 63.5 46.7 56.1 64.9 47.4
........Unemployed 1,170 679 491 1,052 610 442
........Unemployment rate 8.5 8.5 8.4 7.4 7.5 7.4
.. 2012 2013
Total Men Women Total Men Women
NATIVE BORN
50,823 22,048 28,776 50,546 22,061 28,486
.... 41,525 20,488 21,037 41,145 20,427 20,719
........ 81.7 92.9 73.1 81.4 92.6 72.7
........ 38,723 19,397 19,326 38,651 19,426 19,226
............ 76.2 88.0 67.2 76.5 88.1 67.5
........ 2,802 1,091 1,711 2,494 1,001 1,493
............ 6.7 5.3 8.1 6.1 4.9 7.2
..
27,890 12,200 15,690 28,216 12,384 15,831
.... 23,350 11,219 12,131 23,550 11,366 12,183
........ 83.7 92.0 77.3 83.5 91.8 77.0
........ 21,969 10,676 11,293 22,346 10,880 11,466
............ 78.8 87.5 72.0 79.3 87.9 72.4
........ 1,382 544 838 1,204 486 718
............ 5.9 4.8 6.9 5.1 4.3 5.9
..
22,933 9,847 13,086 22,331 9,676 12,655
.... 18,175 9,268 8,907 17,596 9,060 8,535
........ 79.3 94.1 68.1 78.8 93.6 67.4
........ 16,754 8,721 8,034 16,306 8,546 7,760
............ 73.1 88.6 61.4 73.0 88.3 61.3
........ 1,421 548 873 1,290 515 775
............ 7.8 5.9 9.8 7.3 5.7 9.1
..
13,293 5,718 7,575 12,928 5,644 7,284
.... 10,314 5,400 4,914 10,018 5,291 4,727
........ 77.6 94.4 64.9 77.5 93.7 64.9
............ 9,494 5,075 4,419 9,282 4,995 4,287
............ 71.4 88.8 58.3 71.8 88.5 58.9
........ 821 325 496 736 296 440
............ 8.0 6.0 10.1 7.3 5.6 9.3
..
154,734 76,931 77,803 156,971 77,952 79,019
.... 88,423 47,415 41,008 88,916 47,625 41,290
........ 57.1 61.6 52.7 56.6 61.1 52.3
........ 80,741 42,817 37,924 81,696 43,250 38,446
............ 52.2 55.7 48.7 52.0 55.5 48.7
........ 7,683 4,599 3,084 7,219 4,375 2,844
............ 8.7 9.7 7.5 8.1 9.2 6.9

NOTE: Own children include sons, daughters, step-children, and adopted children. Not included are nieces, nephews, grandchildren, and other related and unrelated children. Updated population controls are introduced annually with the release of January data.

36 posted on 11/21/2014 6:14:19 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: originalbuckeye

I believe to legally work in the US one has to have a SS#. Now that doesn’t reduce
the huge numbers that will be forthcoming if they do register to get one.


37 posted on 11/21/2014 6:14:29 AM PST by deport
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To: knarf

A mulato is one thing.
A bastard is another.
Don’t confuse them.


38 posted on 11/21/2014 6:15:28 AM PST by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: knarf

Thank you for your service listening to the smug ahol.


39 posted on 11/21/2014 6:15:51 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: All

Sorry about that.. my copy of the tables were too wide to fit side-by-side. The one on top is for foreign born and the one on the bottom is just native-born Americans. The one for the foreign born is the important one.


40 posted on 11/21/2014 6:18:05 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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