Posted on 11/19/2014 11:35:22 AM PST by Swordmaker
“Just months after selling its ailing handsets business to Microsoft, the Finnish company is planning to go back into the consumer market with a new tablet,” Matti Huuhtanen reports for The Associated Press. “It will launch a 7.9-inch device early next year in China, the world’s biggest market, before selling it elsewhere.”
“The device will be manufactured by Foxconn, which makes Apple’s handsets. And it will operate Android instead of the Windows software Nokia used on its cellphones when it began a partnership with Microsoft in 2011. That partnership ended unsuccessfully — in April, Nokia sold its cellphones unit to Microsoft for $7.2 billion,” Huuhtanen reports. “Sebastian Nystrom, head of at Nokia’s technologies unit, described the N1 tablet as ‘a new beginning for Nokia.’”
“The aluminum-cased tablet uses Google’s Android Lollipop operating system, and will retail for some $250,” Huuhtanen reports. “‘It’s pointing in the right direction, but there are some real challenges,’ said Neil Mawston from Strategy Analytics, near London. ‘It doesn’t have the distribution channels that others like Samsung and Apple enjoy, and nobody is making any profits in Android tablets at the moment.’”
MacDailyNews Take: A textbook example of Trade Dress Infringement, if there ever was one.
“After holding the No.1 spot in cellphones for 14 years, Nokia wasn’t able to meet the challenge when Apple in 2007 introduced the iPhone, and also began to lose the competition to cheaper Asian manufacturers,” Huuhtanen reports. “‘We are pleased to bring the Nokia brand back into consumers’ hands,’ said Nystrom. He hinted Nokia was also interested in producing an Android smartphone. That can’t happen before 2016, however, as the Microsoft deal included a commitment that Nokia not enter the smartphone business before then.”
lol
the prices from those days just kill me
And just whom do you suppose are my masters?
I just thought the nonsense you posted on a thread in which you have zero interest warranted a little sarcasm.
Your fingerprint is not stored in some data base other than the database that most states require on a driving license. Apple uses a mathematical algorithm produced from the patterns on your finger no actual finger print is stored anywhere. Unless of course they are simply liyng which I suppose is possible.
I gave him an apology, as I got a bit hot and threw out a couple insults. Shouldn’t have. Just that about every Apple thread has trolls jumping in (not tacticalogic) and it seems to be a war against them rather than our being able to have a friendly discussion of the merits of products. You know me, I’m a longtime IBM mainframe and NT/Windows admin guy, who has worked on many different products; yet I’m disparaged as an Apple devotee. I’ve seen wars between DEC and IBM devotees (I’ve worked on both platforms). I’ve seen a lot of resistance to Apple from IBM and Microsoft back in the 1980s. It got worse in the 1990s; one example was a project where I was involved interfacing Apple Newtons to IBM 3270 controllers to mainframes, anti-Apple politics killed it even though successful demonstrations were performed. I lost my job as one of two system engineers maintaining an IBM mainframe site when DEC convinced management to pull the plug on us in their favor, all political shenanigans (the DEC system failed soon after). I hate the darn wars and wish people would just accept all platforms. Sorry about the rant...
LOL, well then, I guess I just don't trust enough. See, if I had a clue, like you, I wouldn't interpret what you wrote as proving my point.
But I don't, so I do.
it's OK... but a certain troll set the tone on this thread from the beginning which is what he intended, and does so on purpose. We have to avoid falling for his bile.
I’ve gone round and round on this before with y’all, so I won’t belabor it. If you believe Apple, great. I’d love to believe Apple, and I’m a longtime Mac user. But there are certain realities which make what is believed a lot more vulnerable than people realize. Hardware IDs and IP addresses are matched with personal info in “Apple IDs” which are indeed uploaded for software registration and update verification. Itunes tracks purchases, credit cards and personal media collections. Icloud adds another huge level of dependency and trust. Getting into the Mac infrastructure is no trivial thing, and you need to in order to use the machines.
As for the fingerprint scanner, even if Apple is speaking the truth about hardware sequestered hashed biometrics, they don’t own this concept and there is an enormous amount of security vulnerability analysts who have written about it both from a software and hardware aspect. Not to mention that Apple’s licensing agreements are not written in stone, and be changed as the company chooses - and there is big money in biometric IDs.
My peeve is that these are common industry concerns, and that means Apple should not be exempt from being questioned about them. IT companies are demanding more and more trust and giving less and less assurances. This is a serious problem, and Apple’s right in the middle of it, just like everyone else. I admit I am impressed with the explanations of the lengths Apple has apparently gone to protect identities, at least from attacks outside Apple. But as I said, I don’t trust Apple either, not for any reason other than I don’t think it’s wise to trust any corporation with anything. Yes, that’s impossible in this world. But no, I don’t think it should be dropped. If pushback is not maintained, companies will take everything they can get.
Given all of that, I admit your explanations have made me feel better about Apple, so I thank you for your efforts - they have not been wasted.
Yeah. I recall that people claim that Apple's original 32 bit Mac was too expensive at $2495 without a hard drive. However, i did a comparison of the cost of a basic IBM-PC XT which was the current PC in release in1984, one floppy, 512K of RAM and a Green screen monitor, was also $2495. Steve Jobs wanted the Mac to sell for $1695 to $1995 and it was built to sell for that but he was overruled by the CEO of Apple. But contrary to the claims of the anti-Apple crowd, what it was was competitive with the name brands. It did not compete with the cut-rate cloners though that came later.
What IS amazing is to look at these prices in comparison to today's dollars.
Apple asks you nothing more than information that is already in the public domain to assure that you are who you claim to be, and will have the right to re-access your data when you want to get back in later if it gets compromised, and to purchase apps and updates safely and securely from them. Other than that, they leave you alone.
You are NOT required to give them accurate, truthful answers to the security questions, only answers that you will be sure you can remember. At some point in this world, you have to make choices in whom you will place your trust, such as when you choose a bank, an insurance company, and a place you store your more secure data. You do your due diligence and learn what you can about how they do business and what they do with what they have been entrusted with in the past. It is, always, something of a game of odds, but some companies' business model is selling information about YOU for a profit. Apple's is not. Unlike Google, YOU are their customer, not their product. They ultimately stay in business by keeping their customers happy. Piss off their customers and they will not stay in business.
If he wants to post lame whiny articles about how someone hurt Apple’s feelings or his pathetic attempts at spinning when Apple gets into some mess, then he can grow a pair when someone points out how stupid it is. And most of the time his articles are just plain absurd.
Maybe you also get angry about are broken record lame complaints about Obama you read here too?
Dont want alternative opinion on that company? Then dont post on FR.
You are right regarding iCloud. I do not use it.
I also use a prepaid flip phone in conjunction with an iPod touch, NOT an iPhone.
Some technologies inherently have you give up privacy, “cloud technology” is one of them. I am not a big fan of it as it gives way too much leverage and control to the vendor.
If Apple ever forces you to have an iCloud account, and to use it, I will be in a quandary.
I had my first computer built for me in 1998
I thought I was a really hot s**t getting a 10gb IBM hard drive. It was $290
128mb of memory was a lot of RAM~!!!
That cost me $180
I loaded windows 95 into it
After that I built all my computers even today
I first saw a personal computer in 1983. I had a relative who was a Stanford professor and Stanford had some kind of deal with Apple where their professors could get one fully loaded with printer etc for $5,000/
His wife was also a professor. Neither of them were in the science field. What do you think they loved that computer for that made life a lot easier for them?
Sw is the AppleMan here....you have to cut him some slack. Everybody likes his tech threads. FR used have tons of Linux threads but that fell by the wayside.
Lots of Freepers have gone the Apple route due to Sw. Their products are idiot proof and female friendly. Me, I just do Windows and build my own. But I can admit Apple is a lifeline to the non-tech savvy
It's an eye-opener looking back at previous prices for hardware. That 10gb hd for $290 in 1998 seems like a lot now. Back in 1985, I bought a 20mb hd (megabyte, not gig) for $400. My supervisor yelled at me complaining, because he had paid $500 for his 10mb hd in 1984. In 1991 I bought a 1gb hd for $1000 - it was huge at the time. A 6MHz PC around 1985 cost me $3000. Back in 1979 a floppy drive cost me $600, and I think it held less than 90kb (kilobyte, not mega). In 1978 I bought 16kb of RAM for $250 - it had just been dropped from a previous $500 price - and that was a lot of RAM.
The prices you kids are paying now are dirt cheap in comparison!
Plus now your computing power and internet access and network access is ultra-portable. Compare this to being chained to a desktop. With phones, tablets, ultra thin laptops.....
In my book an ipad has pathetic computing power but still its 100X better than what you were stuck with just a short time ago
Being in IT and part of it maintaining remote sites, I was on call 24/7. I had a pager, and it wasn't easy trying to find a pay phone. Then I was given a portable cell phone, late 1980s early 1990s. It was a huge box with an attached handset with rotary dial, weighed a ton. It looked the size of a toaster. That morphed into a portable brick phone eight inches long by three inches deep. I still have it, it still turns on but of course can't connect now. Heavy as a brick. Amazing what we have now.
Nokia is back in the mobile phone business, after a fashion.
It has granted HMD Global an exclusive, 10-year license to the famous brand, allowing the Finnish startup to sell Nokia mobile phones and tablets.
Meanwhile Microsoft, which bought Nokia’s mobile phone activities in 2013, is finally getting out of the feature-phone business, selling its remaining interests in the Nokia brand and its Vietnamese phone factory to HMD and to FIH, a subsidiary of contract manufacturing giant Foxconn, for around $350 million.
Microsoft isn’t giving up on phones altogether: It will continue to develop the Windows 10 Mobile OS used in phones from manufacturers including Acer, Alcatel, HP, Trinity and VAIO, and in its own Lumia phones.
Nokia is now tightly focused on manufacturing telecommunications network infrastructure, following its acquisition of rival Alcatel-Lucent and its sale of the Here mapping business.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3072138/mobile/microsoft-leaves-feature-phone-business-as-nokia-moves-back-in-sort-of.html
Hear, hear.
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