Posted on 11/15/2014 3:20:41 PM PST by Hostage
In an unintuitive way, the choice was a good one to sink McCain and Romney although ot gave Conservatives 8 years of Obama which according to the recent mid-term elections has left the democrat party in shambles.
In short, sinking McCain and Romney has left the democrat party in shambles. That’s not intuitive but it works.
If either McCain or Romney had been elected, it is certain that the issues that Conservatives are so firmly against would be in work today and there would be no place to go except to form a new party.
Obama has been good for the GOP Base. But the battle is not over. The GOPe are gathering to lay out an agenda that will be just as odious as that of the democrats.
They sank themselves.
Another important fact to note, in 2012 those registered as Independents were 24% of registered voters. In 2014 they are 42%.
It was GOP Tea Party Conservatives together with Conservative Independents that formed the tidal wave of the mid-term sweep.
Sarah Palin was spot on when she said to the GOP Establishment: ‘You didn’t build this!’
You don't call people you want to vote for you idiots.....
/johnny
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If you ever develop a ping list, please put me on it
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The Republican Party means nothing without Conservative Principles and traditional American values.
These mid-terms was a bumper crop of RINO’s winning.
McConnell, Cochran, Perdue, Roberts, Susan Collins, Tillis, Graham, Alexander, Cornyn, etc all won with comfortable margins.
“The Republican Party means nothing without Conservative Principles and traditional American values.”
The Republican Party means nothing ....with the “Read my lips, no new taxes”....Gang Members.
And the democrat party means nothing without, more taxes, expand government, redistribute wealth from the hard working to the lazy or incompetent, socialized healthcare, abortions on demand, power to the unions, weak foreign policy, you did’nt build it, if you like your doctor you can keep him, if you like your health insurance you can keep it, open borders, amnesty to illegals....what did I forget?
So we can choose the democrats or the mushy republicans.
It is indeed a Hob-son’s choice.
Tillis and Perdue are untested on the national state, and Tillis (NC) the state I am from, only won by 1.7%, so not quite accurate,. my friend..
How about all the other RINO’s? I think they won on average by 10 points if my memory is right. Tillis was supposed to lose in most pre-election polls. But he won!
So instead of picking on ONE example we might be better served by looking at the overwhelming majority of results.
One other point that is crucial to absorb: Hillary Clinton is reported to be considering how to divide the GOP so that she can slide into office without a majority just like her husband did.
The GOPe vs. Conservative infighting must be settled and unity introduced for the 2016 fight. Hence, it is important now more than ever that Tea Party minded Conservatives grab positions of leadership and influence to prevent the GOPe from dividing the GOP further.
History proves the GOPe cannot unite the Party and importantly cannot persuade Independents to vote Republican.
Whereas, Tea Party GOP Conservatives are allied with Independent conservatives and together they form a bloc that creates landslides in elections.
And Independents now number 42% in voter registrations!
Indeed, those that stand for nothing will fall for anything.
That is one of the soundest arguments for standing by our conservative principles that I’ve ever seen posted here.
I and others here have made the same points thousands of times on this forum, but perhaps not at the same level of wordsmanship.
Thank you.
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Great review. So, who is the GOPe’s General Pickett going to be this time?
No offense, but that’s over 2800 words detailing something that we already know.
Here’s the problem: Boehner and McConnell are between you and the goal. Given the GOPe is *FIRMLY* entrenched in the controlling seats, how do we get to the goal?
> “No offense, but that’s over 2800 words detailing something that we already know.”
I know that. It was written for some of the newer readers as a primer on the last 8 years of election history from the Conservative perspective and also what Conservatives face today.
How do we get to the goal? It must be reinforced by the Conservatives that are in office and who were just elected that Independents have a home with them, that they can be trusted. The goal for 2016 is reachable by those who capture the Independents.
The salient fact is that in 2012 Independents numbered 24% of registered voters. In 2014 they are at 42%. You can check that on the internet in many ways. Why isn’t this fact major news? It’s not something that is easily expounded on and is difficult to sensationalize in a 30 section news quip. Many major news stories are designed like soap operas and there is no head figure for Independents. But the numbers show that registered voters are leaving in droves from both major parties. So Independents are key to reaching the goal.
Independents will flock with GOP conservatives as long as GOP Conservatives stand up to the GOPe. The GOPe is simply not popular; they do not address or reflect the daily thinking, burdens and concerns of Conservatives and Independents.
I’ve posted a few times how Ted Cruz can win in 2016 by a landslide. It assumes he takes half of the Latino vote (he took 40% in Texas in 2010), he takes all the Conservative GOP Base, he takes all the Perot Blue Collar Conservatives and the Reagan democrats and he takes 2/3’s of Independents. Analysis shows Jeb Bush, Romney or Christie losing to Hillary Clinton because of suppressed Conservative turnout.
In the near term, the danger, and it is a red flashing light danger, is a legislative amnesty effort only it won’t be called amnesty but will be called Border Security Act or similar. As in the past, amendments will be added to make the bill into something more comprehensive, the border security provisions will be abandoned or buried and legalization will follow. This will, as Conservatives know, add millions and millions of democrat voters and it will happen almost immediately via Motor-Voter.
The way to stop this loss of voting integrity is to stop any sort of immigration bill until Conservatives control both chambers of Congress and the White House; hopefully that will be realized in 2016.
There is Legislative Amnesty and there is Executive Amnesty. Neither will allow it to be called amnesty or referred to as such but it will be amnesty. Legislative Amnesty is more dangerous that Executive Amnesty because the latter can be stopped temporarily (at least a year) by a preliminary injunction while its legality is sorted out. Legislative Amnesty becomes law and cannot be stopped by courts as by definition it is made as law and is therefore legal.
The way to get Boehner’s attention on the matter is for the incoming and returning group of Conservatives to repeat what has worked before which is to make Boehner face the reality that Obama cannot be trusted to enforce any new bill for immigration. Obama will do what he wants.
But Boehner is a real concern and is a loose cannon who has a track record of caving. Right now it is a good bet he is looking for any angle to get amnesty passed because that is what the powerful interests behind the US Chamber of Commerce want. But he is checked somewhat by members of his caucus.
Right now it is conceivable that Boehner could bring the House version of the Senate’s Comprehensive Immigration Reform to the House floor for a vote. He won’t do it but if he did, it would pass with all the current democrats voting for it and about 17 progressive republicans. But the majority of the Republican Caucus is against it but that did not stop Boehner when he decided unilaterally late last year to bring the vote to raise the debt ceiling to the House floor without support of his own Caucus. So he has the power in his Speakership to get amnesty passed.
The numbers of Conservatives that are new and returning to the House I think exceed the number in this lameduck conference so it should add more resistance to Boehner going around the Republican Caucus. We shall see but the fact that he can do it on his own is a major concern.
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