Posted on 09/17/2014 4:36:52 PM PDT by Kansas58
A very disturbing number of Freepers are openly advocating, on Free Republic threads, for the defeat of Senator Pat Roberts and other good Conservative Republicans. Greg Orman, in Kansas, is a pro abortion, anti gun, tax and spend Liberal Democrat who has given tens of thousands of dollars to Obama and Pelosi and the Democrat Party and Harry Reid. I am called an "idiot" for supporting Roberts. However, I think that those on Free Republic who support Harry Reid and Greg Orman should be ZOTTED, kicked off the site. I have had enough of there hate filled, vindictive, misguided trash.
LOL! I am!!
You’re wasting your time, love, but I thank you anyway. I don’t engage him anymore because Norm’s opinion of me is none of my business. (A most valuable lesson.)
Norm and his buddy are, unfortunately, sadly ignorant about the effectiveness of border fences and the terrain and property in south Texas. He mistakes discussions about that subject as a defense of Rick Perry, total opposition to a fence, and mad love for illegals.
I did not cite anything from LaRaza and would not do so knowingly. That is a figment of Norm’s very extensive imagination. I cited an article from No Border Wall, which is not affiliated with LaRaza. Additionally, I posted a graphic from the NYT, which cited Border Patrol figures on illegal alien apprehension in each of the southern patrol sectors. (The data was fact-based not opinion.) Again, we were discussing the effectiveness of a border fence.
As for Rick Perry, Norm and his buddy claim that Rick Perry opposes a border fence. They take snippets of quotes that leave out the full text of his position. Perry doesn’t oppose a fence. He opposes an ineffective, worthless fence - like the one in south Texas that the drug cartels are tunneling under and the illegals are climbing over. Big difference. He supports strategic fencing (i.e. where a fence will provide a substantial barrier that is difficult to circumvent) supplemented with enforcement by boots on the ground, aerial surveillance, and technology.
G’night, Norm. Go back to your corner. You’re still in timeout.
Wow. 700 posts. I gotta sit down and scan this one. My goodness.
Vote Republican in 2014!
Defeat Democrats in 2014!
RETIRE DINGY HARRY IN 2014!
Putting an end to Myth's myths is an honor and a privilege. It is not defeatism nor nihilism but REALISM.
May God less you and yours!
In 2012 the choice in the general election were Romney or Obama. There were no good choices. It was the lesser of two evils or not voting. I chose the lesser of two evils but how can I be faulted for that? I voted for the best available candidate in the primary who was Newt.
Plus for work I’m stuck in a very hard left city. Every candidate for local office is a disgusting liberal. Some are even more disgusting than others. My option is don’t vote or vote for the lesser of the evils.
...at least you didn’t call me “#1 fan”. That would be slightly creepy. LOL!
Give it up retread. What’s it been? A hundred or more attempts? Crawl out of your mom’s basement and a get freaking life already.
Romney required abortion funding and funding of sex change operations under Romneycare.
Suppose you care most about ten issues:
1. Ending abortion;
2. Defending marriage exclusively as an institution of one man and one woman per marriage;
3. Rebuilding our military;
4. Individual 2nd Amendment Right to Keep and Bear Arms;
5. Ending Obamacare; 6. Reducing the size and scope of the federal government;
7. Reducing the federal budget;
8. Repealing most of Obozo's Executive Orders;
9. Nominating young brilliant killer federal judges;
10. Cutting federal taxes on ordinary folks of modest means;
Further assume that the GOP controls the White House and both houses of Congress. The GOP has too much on its plate to enact everything at once.
Suppose that abortion is the most contentious issue and they decide to put it aside for now so that they can concentrate on some of the more easily achievable priorities.
You might start with rebuilding the military: jobs, contracts for ships, planes, weapons, etc. A traditionally reasonably popular priority. You do need time to put the specifics in bill form.
Your new attorney general goes to war for 2nd Amendment rights. The courts are doing this anyhow. The time is right. Of course if the POTUS is gun grabber Romney, maybe the AG will be on the other side. Did I say maybe?
Unlike a Romney administration, this Republican administration is not trying to sin but the world surrounds and tries to drown this administration in evils just as it does to each of us. The moral issues get set aside one by one and have a LOT of trouble getting back on the front burner.
As days go by, unexpected issues arise. American missionaries are being crucified in groups on YouTube by ISIS, for example. A terrorist attack strikes an American military installation or a city or a daycare center. POTUS must do something about such atrocities. Precious time is ticking by.
If the President is Myth, he welcomes these distractions to some extent because of the extreme difficulty he always has with social and military conservatives who will NEVER trust him and for good reason. These distractions allow him to ignore the social issues and to tell Congress to keep its collective eye on the crisis of the moment.
The Lamestream Media does not hate or fear Romney because he is trustworthy on baby killing and gay everything. If he asks for slack on his failure/refusal to satisfy social conservatives, the media are willing to co-operate.
Now, if Ted Cruz is POTUS, I have a LOT more confidence in good outcomes. Like Myth, Ted also has a track record and it is largely the opposite of Myth's track record. The media may scream like vampires tossed in a lake of Holy Water but Ted will stand firm. He may even be a bit of the new Reagan we have been searching for. I suspect he needs to learn some self-deprecating humor and a very sure-footed human touch. If people accept that he really cares for the vast majority of us who did not attend Princeton undergrad and Harvard Law, if he learns to drop a credible tear when appropriate, if he learns to exhibit genuine concern for the less fortunate among us and the base comes along for the ride because it trusts Ted, if he learns to connect with today's equivalent of Reagan Democrats, he will win the nomination and the election. They despise Obozo (and Romney) and crave leadership on the issues THEY care about.
I was talking to a physical therapist this week who emigrated to the US from India the hard way by obeying our laws and he was very proud of obeying those laws. I told him that I had never seen an Asian couple in Connecticut's divorce courts, nor an Asian kid in Connecticut's criminal courts, nor any Asian immigrant who was not hard-working and productive and successful and yet, from what I read, Asian American voters are heavily Democrat. I asked him why. He seemed to be a conservative Republican but a Hindu and he was eager to answer. He told me that he found it frustrating but the Democrats are much better at welcoming people to the US. Republicans seem uninterested in people like him who are not European and not Christian. He said that many Asians are social conservatives and would fit well in the GOP and that their work ethic also would incline them toward the GOP if only it would seek them. I think I was able to help him see it in a different light because I was the Republican who actually asked his opinion and listened. We spent a productive half hour exploring matters political.
If Ted can learn to talk to Asians, Blacks, and his fellow Hispanics in such a fashion, again I think he enhances his victory. If Ted can also become a credible and effective leader on restoring the American economy from the ground up, so much the better. Speaking credibly on America's educational failures and prescribing appropriate remedies, likewise.
I feel sure that Ted Cruz has flaws as well as do we all. OTOH, I am confident that his flaws are much rarer than most in our politics.
BlackElk: “Some conservatives have to put a stop to the sunshine and lollipops and everyone gets a unicorn bs that is spread by the compulsive GOP love slaves for whom any old POS is good enough so long as it has the R tattoo on its forehead.”
You keep making false claims and throwing insults. Show me anywhere in this thread where anyone claimed voting for the GOPe can be characterized as all “sunshine and lollipops?” If your arguments are solid, there’s absolutely zero reason to demean or misrepresent the other side’s points.
Conservative: “Do I sit it out while evil reigns or do I vote for a lesser evil to try to slow the damage?” That is probably a reasonable question for millions of conservative voters. Disagree if you want but please try to show a modicum of civility for other people! Please!
Do you imagine that you are convincing anyone? None of us owed Romney our vote. Not voting Romney or Obama is just that-—not voting for Romney or Obama.
I see zero sympathy or tolerance on this thread for anyone faced with your election choices. That’s a real shame. Frankly, I think it drives people away from both this board and conservative groups. Political power comes from votes, and votes come from building coalitions. Some prefer to go scorched earth it seems.
Ted Cruz is great.
As to the paragraph you quoted, you and I disagree strongly. I stand behind every word. You voted for Romney, despite his record on baby killing, "gay""everything," gun grabbing, "health care," and dozens of other issues. I did not. That ideological difference is is wide as the Pacific Ocean and determined the respective outcomes.
I voted for Eternal Vigilance who graciously offered me a quite respectable alternative and a very clear conscience as an American and as a Catholic. EV is a knowledgeable patriot and a principled Evangelical Christian in agreement with my Church and vice versa on soooo many relevant issues despite some religious differences which we have never found necessary to hash out.
There is nothing false about my observations. I am not throwing insults. If I were throwing insults, trust me, any target would not be left in doubt. You are trying to brand yourself as having suffered anguish in finally deciding to vote for Myth Romney in a very close call. I don't find that very credible. I think your vote was rather predetermined. Also every comment is not necessarily aimed at you personally. I am perfectly capable of ignoring criticism and so are you.
The question that you pose in the last paragraph is sheer nonsense. It is not really a question at all. It is begging the question by loading up the alleged question with modifiers that dictate the outcome. An equivalent would be: Do I refuse to sin (thereby respecting and accepting the loving sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross in atonement for my sins and those of others) by refusing to vote for either major party baby killer? Or do I parse their respective records for a sliver of lesser evil here or there no matter how speculative or irrelevant and weigh the infinitesimal differences in the balance?
You apparently are made uncomfortable by the colorfulness of my writing style. I am not going to change it. Eternal Vigilance convinced me right on this web site after 2008 that he was right and I was wrong when taking the position you now take. If you think you can change me back into a reflexive GOP voter, good luck! You are welcome to try.
Toasty is a fraud. Sick libtard retread obamabot.
Cruz: 2016! He is a candidate for whom none of us will ever have to apologize. He is a candidate for whom we can go to political war. If we can coalesce around him early enough, he will be nominated and elected.
As to your final question in your #711, look at your own tagline and at your very fine homepage. The answers are there.
A wise and superb post! May God bless you and yours!
Thanks, Jim. Your comments are always appreciated above all others. May God continue to less you and yours!
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