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Ebola Surveillance Thread
Free Republic Threads ^ | August 10, 2014 | Legion

Posted on 08/10/2014 12:46:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe

I have spent a little time compiling links to threads about the Ebola outbreak in the interest of having all the links in one thread for future reference.

Please add links to new threads and articles of interest as the situation develops.

Thank You all for you participation.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
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To: Cold Heat
>>Obviously there is not enough willing and able
>>government servants to keep the disease from
>>taking in the entirety of the areas it is
>>established in, this now seems obvious since
>>the reports of raided medial facilities, but
>>they can keep it contained at the borders by
>>force and I can assume that is what the plan
>>is now..having failed to contain it within.

The issue here with regard to spread of EVD is the confluence of corruption, culture and crime.

Too a large degree this form of EVD is spreading in populations with low impulse control, low social cohesion/trust and huge amounts of corruption in dealing with people who are not immediately related by blood.

The West as a whole has much larger levels of social trust/cohesion and a willingness to deal fairly with those not of your blood line.

There is, however, a significant exception.

Drug abusers, be they junkies or drunks, the criminal culture that feeds them or is addicted, and the corruption that criminal subculture engenders.

Druggies are not going to be stopped by anything but the fear of immediate death in trying to get their next fix.

That makes them thinking, breathing and irrational EVD vectors.

Anyplace quarantined within walking distance of drug culture areas can expect to be invaded by junkies looking to steal/rob to score their next fix.

So no, I don't have any confidence at all that EVD can be contained, if it makes it to a druggie controlled Urban area in any densely populated city in the Western World.

941 posted on 08/22/2014 1:43:14 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: black; Dark Wing
I look for the Liberian government to simply set fire to West Point slum at some point. We will likely never get a body count out of there.

Its not just ebola there now. They are not even allowing food or other supplies into the area. Starvation and diseases that follow will start hammering the people that ebola doesn't get first.

942 posted on 08/22/2014 2:06:11 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Cold Heat
here's the link

That's okay. Roll in your own excrement.

You are the one being sanctimonious here.

Enjoy you self.

943 posted on 08/22/2014 2:11:29 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Black Agnes

https://twitter.com/HlthAnalysis/status/502924436681818112/photo/1

Graphics re: last WHO data.

Liberia nearly straight up. Even Guinea, which had somewhat leveled off has begun to trend upward again.


944 posted on 08/22/2014 2:12:46 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

I need to cry now. I can still see that baby lying there all alone. That was such a cruel photo.

Here come the waterworks.


945 posted on 08/22/2014 2:14:17 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Shelayne

I know.

Poor little guy.

His relatives that dressed him are probably infected and next up on the roulette wheel.


946 posted on 08/22/2014 2:15:51 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Cold Heat
This thread was not started to dance on the graves of those unfortunate enough to be affected by this disease

Is that what I am doing.....????

Interesting you took that statement of what this thread was not personally.

I did not say anything about you, in that sentence, did I?

We are here to gather and discuss information, to put it in one place as a reference thread. As you said, it is what it is. Please do us all the favor of not confusing our concern with "fear".

947 posted on 08/22/2014 2:18:22 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Don’t respond to him. I hit the abuse button. Just do the same. We don’t need an important information thread destroyed by a troll.


948 posted on 08/22/2014 2:25:16 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Black Agnes

BTW, I went to the site listed in 944 and it’s a wealth of information.

Not recommending it or vouching it isn’t a haven for hacks or bots.

Just lots of info there.


949 posted on 08/22/2014 2:27:14 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: PA Engineer

If you look at the initial Liberia graph on the tweetpic in 944 it looks like the one from Nigeria. The difference is the seriousness with which it was treated by the health professionals. Nigeria immediately did proactive things to stop it. The Liberian doctors ‘didn’t believe’ in ebola and spread it to all their patients. Who spread it to their families. Etc. And now their case graph, 3 months later, is straight up.

The ‘hero’ doctor, Brisbane, won’t be a ‘hero’ when it’s all said and done in Liberia.


950 posted on 08/22/2014 2:29:27 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Dark Wing
Drug abusers, be they junkies or drunks, the criminal culture that feeds them or is addicted, and the corruption that criminal subculture engenders.

I would also add the homosexual lifestyle such as bath houses. People have "multiple" sex partners in just one day.

The meme is an individual is "not infectious" until they show symptoms, yet at the same time they are infectious for 60 days post recovery from semen (and urine). There is a contradiction here.
951 posted on 08/22/2014 2:34:35 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Dark Wing
Anyplace quarantined within walking distance of drug culture areas can expect to be invaded by junkies looking to steal/rob to score their next fix.

Incredible fomite potential, there, especially as junkies (and other miscreants) would raid the possessions of the dead for stuff to sell.

952 posted on 08/22/2014 2:36:21 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Black Agnes
The ‘hero’ doctor, Brisbane, won’t be a ‘hero’ when it’s all said and done in Liberia.

I agree. I don't see how they are going to contain the refugees once hunger sets in.
953 posted on 08/22/2014 2:38:41 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

My dad remarked, on visiting NYC and riding the subway one day, that in the UK unattended packages left on public transportation were strictly left alone and at the next stop everyone on that car got off and summoned the constabulary. In NYC, as soon as the person left it unattended, people were already pilfering and plundering that.

It’s a learning curve.

In the UK, the IRA for years left bombs and such in ‘unattended packages’. In the midst of a similar ‘political movement’, the people of NYC would learn the same lesson(s).

Eventually, the druggies would learn to leave the dead bodies alone. Or, we’d run out of druggies desperate enough to reuse needles and plunder dead bodies. One or the other.


954 posted on 08/22/2014 2:39:49 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

” In NYC, as soon as the person left it unattended, people were already pilfering and plundering that.”

.

Slightly off topic but many years ago there was a garbage strike in NYC.

A man on TV said he just gift wrapped his garbage and left in in an unlocked car.

Poof,garbage gone.

.


955 posted on 08/22/2014 2:45:51 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Black Agnes

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/08/22/342480343/a-food-crisis-follows-africas-ebola-crisis?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

“A Food Crisis Follows Africa’s Ebola Crisis”

groundnuts = peanuts


956 posted on 08/22/2014 2:57:10 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes; PA Engineer

http://wkzo.com/news/articles/2014/aug/22/us-hospitals-overdo-ebola-plans-posing-new-risks-researchers/


957 posted on 08/22/2014 2:58:22 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes; petitfour

http://www.36ng.com.ng/2014/08/22/ebola-first-consultants-medical-center-release-statement-on-patrick-sawyer/#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ebola-first-consultants-medical-center-release-statement-on-patrick-sawyer?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Of possible interest.


958 posted on 08/22/2014 2:59:38 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/26349469/cdc-director-to-visit-ebola-outbreak-countries?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Friedan will go to West Africa.


959 posted on 08/22/2014 3:01:17 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

http://www.webmd.com/news/20140822/ebola-medical-drama

Concise.


960 posted on 08/22/2014 3:06:23 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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