Posted on 08/10/2014 12:46:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe
I have spent a little time compiling links to threads about the Ebola outbreak in the interest of having all the links in one thread for future reference.
Please add links to new threads and articles of interest as the situation develops.
Thank You all for you participation.
Interesting.
We’ll see.
It becomes harder to blame the healthcare workers if more become infected. Then we have to believe Texas Pres hires only incompetent people to work their ICU.
It’s around $4250 including the storage tank and thousand gallons of propane at $2/gal. Hubs found the gennie for half off (originally $2200, and it uses both gasoline and propane for flexibility) and our electrician is very reasonable.
If we have a miracle and Ebola doesn’t wreak havoc, I have a backup power system for ice storms and the like. The last ice storm knocked out our electricity for 8 miserable days. And if Ebola does cause widespread mayhem (which I think is going to happen) we’re good to go too. I think it’s a good investment.
I’ll have to get back to you on that. Hubs is in charge of that part of the preps and he’s off to bed.
Better to let them know something is as dangerous as it is so they can be adequately prepared to deal with it--and as I will continue to maintain, better to be a little overly prepared, a little better equipped than need be than to have inadequate PPE. EBOV remains a level 4 pathogen, and it is folly to treat it with less respect than it should receive.
No one, as far as I know, is telling people that Ebola is perfectly safe. The message has always been that Ebola is quite infectious--not contagious, but infectious--and requires the highest level of caution.
What I see going on are a lot of people hung up on this idea that Ebola *must* be airborne, because, somehow, an airborne pathogen must be MUCH more scary than a pathogen that is spread by direct contact. That popular conception, however, is wrong. Ebola is classified as a level 4 pathogen because it is so infectious and pathogenic once exposure has occurred--NOT because it is highly contagious. If contagiousness of a virus were the criteria in deciding its biosafety level, then the common cold would be a level 4 agent.
This whole attempt to pigeonhole Ebola into being an airborne respiratory virus is a dangerous diversion. People who take precautions against an aerosol virus, thinking that they are thus protecting themselves against Ebola, are doing no such thing. You can protect yourself against something in the air with a mask. A mask won't protect against Ebola, because Ebola is potentially lurking on surfaces--any surface that a patient has soiled with their bodily fluids, especially as they progress in the disease and those fluids are more likely to contain virus--their soiled bedding, objects that they have splashed with their vomit or diarrhea, chairs that they have sat on, etc. You have to protect yourself against contact with contaminated surfaces--that is far more stringent than protecting against something in the air.
thank you.
I think 5 grand is perfectly reasonable for such a backup plan.
May GOD bless you and yours.
Shelayne,
There have been rumors all day of there being a 2nd infected.
I heard first that it was the sick HCW’s partner/husband/apartment roomie.
If they are cancelling Texas Health Presby’s EMS divert status after 1/2 hour, they either think they need to do more decontamination or they have another worker suspected as positive.
Ha! ;^)
Perhaps not incompetent - perhaps inadequately trained by CDC. The nurse in Spain said they received 15 minutes of Ebola training.
Sorry, I wasn’t being clear enough and it sounded like I was blaming the hcw. I wasn’t.
It’s harder to blame the workers for being incompetent or making mistakes if more of them become infected.
If THAT happens the fingers will begin to point UP the food chain. For either failing to train them properly, failing to equip/protect them properly or some combination of those.
Or maybe one of the Duncan”family” contacts? Whomever it *might* be, I will not be surprised if there is another HCW case. :^(
Bingo!
Long day:)
You’re most welcome. My great-grandmother survived the Depression widowed with four children and her motto was, “hope for the best but be ready for the worst!” She passed when I was 19 and I still miss her. That phrase has stuck with me all my life.
God bless you and yours. Be ready!
In the late '70s, I traveled between rather primitive islands in the southern Philippines. It was not unusual to have to step into pans of disinfectant on the runways as we approached our planes.
Clearly the CDC cannot figure out such advanced technology.
Shelayne
Dallas will be lucky if there are less than eight secondary cases from Thomas Eric Duncan in the first generation of infection.
Texas Presby is running 1 in 26 of the PPE-2 protected HCW not in the high risk group getting Ebola.
You cannot be in the same room with a late Ebola case in PPE-2 without someone getting infected, especially if they have the infected _intubated_ and are running _dialysis_, for Pete’s sake.
The breach in protocol was letting the information escape into the news media.
The present protocol is to purposely misdiagnose and if that fails hide the cases and results. With 500 West Africans coming to America every single stinking day spreading a disease that kill 50 percent and has no cure....they don’t think they can control the masses response....which will be massively NOT PC.
http://www.oromiapress.com/breaking-news-first-case-of-ebola-in-ethiopia-reported-hara-ethiopia/
First case in Ethiopia ..
And the Medical unions are mobilizing to act!
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/13/us/texas-health-worker-tests-positive
snip
The C.D.C. has said that for health workers in the United States, gloves, gowns, masks and face shields or goggles would be protection enough. But many health workers across the country, seeing images of people in Africa completely encased in full-body, hazardous-material suits, have requested similar protection.
“A lot of us are starting to get worried,” said Debra Buccellato, an emergency room nurse in Santa Rosa, Calif. “I’m a single mom so if I got sick there’d be a huge void.”
Ms. Buccellato, 38, said supervisors at her hospital had distributed information about C.D.C. guidelines, but added, “I have not seen any active training or practice drills, and I haven’t seen any new or upgraded personal protective equipment.”
She said she had emailed her manager to ask for more training, but said she was not sure that hazardous material suits were the best option for her 90-bed facility, Sutter Santa Rosa Hospital.
“I don’t know how realistic it is to go to that level when you have X amount of patients to take care of and time issues,” Ms. Buccellato said. For now, she said she planned to start wearing a face mask for her entire shift
“I’m angry about this,” said RoseAnn DeMoro, the executive director. “We want the first line of defense to be the most prepared. Our hospitals are resisting us. The C.D.C. doesn’t say that we need hazmat suits. If this doesn’t change dramatically, we will picket every hospital in this country if we have to.”
My mama was born in 1920 and she is still with me (GOD bless her).
What she has told me of her upbringing could fill a book,
and most people would look upon it in disbelief.
People are foolish if they depend on anyone other than themselves.
I agree with you.
I was just reading the timeline of the Duncan case, and he was having explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting on the 28th, and then he asked to be put in a diaper because he couldn’t make it to his bedside commode. This was on the 29th, a day before he tested positive for Ebola.
On the 30th, the Ebola test was confirmed, and THEN the staff traded their gowns and scrubs for CDC PPE protocols.
So it would seem that the HCW were likely exposed to all sorts of infectious body fluids before they donned their PPE.
As someone else commented, Those 24 beds they have reserved for Ebola patients that they spoke about in the press conference this morning, surely sound about right... Dear Lord, I pray not.
Heaven help us all.
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