Posted on 07/31/2014 11:19:44 PM PDT by No One Special
There's about a 21 day period between contracting ebola and the appearance of symptoms. Can the disease be passed to another before the symptoms appear?
“They have to check 30,000 people?”
They have to FIND them first.
Money as a vector. I wonder how long the virus can stay alive on a bill.
“...the standard was that with a virus, one starts becoming infectious within the 24 hours prior to onset of symptoms.”
Even IF one isn’t contagious until after symptoms, the symptoms are like the flu. Muscles aches, low fever, etc. Those symptoms (the kind lots of people, and almost all men, shrug off)) can last for several days until the more severe symptoms show up that may cause one to go the the doctor.
That makes logical sense, thank you.
Don’t forget sweat (one MORE reason to wipe off the GYM equipment before you get on, or the doorknob touched in the last 3 days by someone with a sweaty Ebola fever).
And liquid droplets from a cough or sneeze can travel about three feet and land on things that can later be touched. Or onto you if you are withing three feet of the event when it happens.
http://www.primehealthchannel.com/ebola-virus-symptoms-pictures-structure-facts-and-history.html#virology-of-ebola-virus
Scroll down to “Ebola Virus Replication.” Maybe that will help. In simplified short, think of it as a process of a virion attaching itself to a host cell then injecting copies of itself into that cell.
All of the above are so easily forgotten.
People call me paranoid when i wipe down at work when someone has a Cold.
It reduces the impact dramatically if just door handles are wiped regularly through the day.
If Mr Lister doesn't mind ...Initiating Paranoia Mode.
One comment on wiping stuff down. They did some studies and found that often wiping stuff down only spread it MORE! (Trying to conserve on the wipes and using the same wipe for several areas.)
Another key is to keep your hands away from your face with the common habits of hand on chin, nose scratching, head scratching, etc. So use the alchohol based lotions a lot.
Ebola is no match for 20th Century hygiene.
Don’t let them scare you.
Well, during the 1918-19 flu, one town made sure their citizenry knew the fact that the flu was in fact out there and killing people. It’s an interesting story (I read this in a biography about the flu and those who were the top names in the field of medicine) and it had the least amount of deaths.
If the government is open about this and the media doesn’t work to create hysteria, I think people would handle it a lot better. If the government hides this, then it will just create more hysteria and suspicion. People can handle stuff like this well, the rest of the public aren’t complete idiots (OBama’s election notwithstanding).
As for hoarding, yes, but riots, depends on the area. If it’s low income and community leaders scream about how whites (or blacks among some sets) are trying to poison them, then yeah, there’ll be riots, but if people have self control and know about how to basically handle themselves, I am certain that we’ll be surprised at how well things go.
During that one tri-state power outage, people actually behaved themselves really well in NY and it could have gone differently. People can change their habits if it depends on their survival and at this point in time, I think us Yanks are best at times like this. We do well and we have the ability to exchange information far more freely and easily than in the past.
You can’t hide something like this anyway. Impossible and certainly pointless to even try.
I think (and hope) that it will in fact take more than a sneeze to transport to the rest of humanity. Right now the CDC isn’t telling us something and I believe that the best thing in the world right now will be to avoid panicking and avoid any actions that will be obtrusive and threatening.
As for dealing with it, we don’t have a choice but to trust in God.
In the book Hot Zone they claim the virus can survive up to 10 days on surfaces...
Now, keep in mind the book was written decades ago, although it is a true fictionalized story. Reading the first 20 or so pages will scare the bejesus out of you though.
For those not as familiar with Ebola and potentials...this is a definite read as it is based on a true story.
“The Hot Zone” free .pdf download:
http://learn.flvs.net/educator/common/EnglishIIv10/TheHotZone.pdf
Tekmira’s Ebola Drug Trial placed on hold by FDA earlier this month: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-03/tekmira-ebola-drug-trial-placed-on-hold-by-u-s-fda.html
Last year there was a localized outbreak. They were reporting then they noticed a mutation in the virus, but later discounted their suspicions.
This outbreak is way out of control from an previous observed situations. They’re claiming it is because someone got to a population center with it.
I am seriously wondering if those suspicions by doctors last year were accurate. Second, if this is a natural mutation or a purposely weaponized/escaped version.
It is weird to consider all the hullabaloo they made of the flu coming out of Mexico a few years back and the “high mortality” rate and who was being hit with that...to now not hear from the CDC now? Also it seems odd that the Ebola “vaccine” was put on hold earlier this month just as this outbreak should/would have been peeking. Keep in mind this outbreak has been knowingly going on since February.
You do realize that the Hot Zone is a complete work of fiction?
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0040961
Here’s a contagion model. Notice that the exponent is I the number infected. As I increases it does so exponentially.
In the 1918 flu people were fleeing the cities for the country. My grandfather and the sheriff went to the edge of Medina, Ohio and put out signs stating the infection had already reached the town and asking people to continue on. They thought they were lying to protect their neighbors. But the contagion HAD reached the town, they just didn’t know it yet. If I recall, the flu killed 22 million in its first four months. It took four years to burn itself out. Some entire, remote villages were wiped completely out.
I recall reading back when Ebola was first identified that Iran sent “doctors” who collected samples and returned home.
It’s not like the flu in the sense that it doesn’t spread airborne. But it does spread by exchange of almost any bodily fluid. By the time you see people showing symptoms and dying, it has most likely already spread significantly.
droplets from a person’s saliva expelled during a sneeze are still dangerous though, right?
The Hot Zone: A Terrifying True Story is a best-selling 1994 non-fiction thriller by Richard Preston about the origins and incidents involving viral hemorrhagic fevers, particularly ebolaviruses and marburgviruses. The basis of the book was Preston’s 1992 New Yorker article “Crisis in the Hot Zone”.
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