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Tour de France *** 2014 *** [LIVE THREAD]
Le Tour ^ | July 2, 2014 | Various

Posted on 07/02/2014 12:26:29 PM PDT by Baynative

While the media tries to make soccer into a real sport we are only three days away from the 2014 Tour de France a genuine test of men against men, men against nature, men against elements and men testing their own hearts and will.

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To: Utah Binger; Jim Robinson
That's a great post to help close out our thread and put us over the 300 mark.

Jim- it is good to see you looking so healthy.

301 posted on 07/28/2014 7:11:51 AM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Utah Binger
Shameless promotion of one of GOD's great visual treats...



;^)


302 posted on 07/28/2014 11:49:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Binger
   The BIRD is liable to be found in many places...  

 

 

 

 

 


303 posted on 07/28/2014 11:58:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Baynative
I have ridden Vail Pass many times and am shocked he rode it averaging 22 mph. It is super steep in places- like I don't go much more than single digits in one part in particular. It's like a wall in front of you. Wow. Impressed.

We did see Floyd Landis do it as part of the Copper Triangle but were not able to watch him except pedaling away from us as we manned the aid station. The USA pro challenge had the ITT up Vail pass a couple of years ago but they stopped just before the really steep parts. As it turns into a bike path and is just off the shoulder of I 70 in sections, I think it was for the safety of the riders.

304 posted on 07/28/2014 12:11:33 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Baynative
Thank you, Bay, for hosting the forum this year. We all know it takes a lot of time to keep up with it and with trying to watch the hours of TV coverage, it makes for a very busy July!

I finally got through the final day last night and felt very good about it. I found it interesting that Chris Froome said he was disappointed no one attacked Nibali in the mountains. It would have been fun to see him challenged and I think I would feel better about his win. Maybe he is clean- who's to know? I still think it's freaky how he rode away from everyone so effortlessly. Regardless, he is the victor and the TdF is over for 2014. Onward. Next year should be interesting with Froome, Contador, Cavendish and Talanksy back.

305 posted on 07/28/2014 12:17:00 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Baynative

Vincenzo Nibali was the most dominant rider in the Tour this year.

I wish I could get Universal Sports so I could watch the Vuelta de Espana.


306 posted on 07/28/2014 12:18:40 PM PDT by Eric Roelfsema
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To: Elsie
Tbird hat waiting for you if/when you show up down here. BTW who's that fat guy on the tractor? He dropped nearly forty lbs. of mostly water during that last go round.


307 posted on 07/28/2014 1:10:58 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: luv2ski
I once raced on a road course had one good climb and some short hills. I was with a group of riders that had been dropped and we ended up organizing a chase and got back to the leaders. The final part of the race was a big group of about 35 or 40 riders smoking through some rollers in the valley heading to the finish. We were flying ...FLYING, I tell ya!

I don't think I was ever in a group that big going that fast. The race was 88 miles and the time was 3hr23min. I was blown away that we only averaged about 27mph. When I tally that against speeds the pros achieve I am in awe.

308 posted on 07/28/2014 1:15:12 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Utah Binger
He dropped nearly forty lbs. of mostly water during that last go round.

HMMMmmm...

I'd heard rumors it was some OTHER material he was full of...



8-{]


309 posted on 07/28/2014 6:43:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nutmeg; whattajoke; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; Drango; glorgau; Cecily; ..

Bike Ping

After the Paris shootings; I wonder what kind of talks are going on about security for this year's tour and whether any special route alterations are being planned.

310 posted on 01/17/2015 6:09:49 PM PST by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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To: Baynative

I’ve been so busy I hadn’t even thought about it. Honestly, I thought there would be trouble last year. It’s coming, but when? And what will the response be?


311 posted on 01/17/2015 6:29:44 PM PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi

I have been thinking that the tour would be disrupted by some type of attack for years now. Given the demographics in France and Europe... it really is only a matter of time. Persons of European decent are not reproducing fast enough to maintain their numbers and Muslims are doubling every 12 to 15 years in most locations.

We have friends who live in Belgium who had to sell their home which had been in the family for over 100 years. The neighborhood was taken over by Muslims. It was not like Detroit where the neighborhood turned into a slum and everyone eventually left. Part of the area was purchased by Muslims and the area kept expanding; people were given no choice they had to leave. The entire where they lived is now unsafe for people who are not Muslims to enter. Our friend is a police officer... it made no difference.

I heard that Obama said that the Europeans needed to better integrate Muslim people into their countries. This is either willful ignorance or just more of his intentional deception. The Muslims have no desire or intention to integrate.


312 posted on 01/17/2015 9:15:03 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15

http://pamelageller.com/2015/01/obama-imported-300000-muslims-into-the-us-in-2013.html/

Here’s an excellent article by Pamela Geller on Muslim population growth.


313 posted on 01/18/2015 6:36:27 AM PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: Baynative; All

It wasn’t that many years ago that they were fearing trouble in the Basque region.


314 posted on 01/18/2015 7:28:05 AM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi

Unfortunately Pamela Geller’s website has been experiencing a denial of service attack for the last several days and is impossible to get to most of the time. Somebody doesn’t want us to see this information.


315 posted on 01/18/2015 11:39:24 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15

I know. It was up but slow loading this morning.


316 posted on 01/18/2015 12:53:56 PM PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: Baynative

This thought has occurred to me numerous times although if they can pull off the Tour of Dubai without incident it gives me hope that the TDF can do the same. It sure must be a tempting target though with basically a world wide audience and a huge route that would be almost impossible to secure fully. When I stop to think about all the caravans parked along some of the climbs it kind of sends a chill down my spine to consider the terrible possibilities.

On a side note, I was planning on going to see it this year with Trek Travel. Put down 2K to reserve a spot for my self and my better half. They came out with the pricing and for almost all of the climbing stages were asking north of 9k per person. That does not include airfare. I was thinking 16K and could almost justify it as a once in a lifetime trip but 20K? Holy cow... couldn’t wrap my mind around it.

To be fair to Trek Travel, they returned my deposit without a problem.


317 posted on 02/16/2015 12:53:31 PM PST by SouthParkRepublican
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To: SouthParkRepublican; nutmeg; whattajoke; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; ...

Bike Ping

Hello to all -

A couple of weeks ago I got a heads up from Ms. AntiFeminazi that the Amgen Tour was coming up and though I have been consumed with a lot of life's happenings lately, I thought I'd give a quick post of the final results as a sort of an appetizer for our annual July running TdF therad.

It seems like only yesterday that Peter Sagan popped out of nowhere and gave us a thrill and some hope that a new eccentric sprinter might fill the space, if not the cleats of the great Mario Cippolini. While he hasn't sped to those heights, he did manage to capture the California Tour this year in a dramatic finish.

PASADENA, California (VN) — The chain of events that led to Peter Sagan’s (Tinkoff-Saxo) overall victory at the Amgen Tour of California Sunday in Pasadena were as thrilling as they were unexpected.

The road to Sagan’s improbable victory began with five straight podium finishes, and the time bonuses each brought. His path to the top step of the classification was accelerated by a snowstorm and a venue change that dramatically suited his strengths. What followed was an impressive display of man against mountain, finally ending at the Rose Bowl with a bike throw and a photo finish.

It was an exciting, unforeseen conclusion to a story that seemed to begin with just a few major characters, and little room for a plot twist.

One of the things that set this year’s Amgen Tour of California apart from every other edition was the fact that there was no real pre-race favorite in the peloton.

Mark Cavendish (Etixx-Quick-Step) was on hand and fresh off three sprint wins at the Tour of Turkey, all but assured to take several sprint victories against a sprint field that had seen Marcel Kittel (Giant-Alpecin) and Ben Swift (Sky) cancel their flights due to injuries and illness. Sagan was back for a sixth straight year, looking to add to his tally of 11 stage wins and five straight green jerseys. But on the GC side, there just wasn’t the same firepower.

Dutch rider Robert Gesink (LottoNL-Jumbo) was the only returning champion in the field, but his fitness was questionable due to a knee injury sustained earlier this season.

The same was true for American Lawson Craddock (Giant), who finished third overall in 2014 but missed much of the spring season due to numerous broken bones sustained in a crash at the Santos Tour Down Under in January.

Young French rider Julian Alaphilippe (Etixx) was coming off a revelatory spring, including a second place at Liège-Bastogne-Liège, but he was unproven at weeklong stage races and also on long, sustained climbs.

Colombian Sergio Henao (Sky) was viewed as the most likely GC favorite, largely based on his second overall to Joaquim Rodriguez (Katusha) at the Vuelta al Pais Vasco (Tour of the Basque Country) in early April.

The long, steep climb to the summit finish of Mt. Baldy on stage 7 was always going to be the most decisive in the race, with the flat 15-mile time trial in Big Bear Lake on stage 6 the next-most important for the general classification.

For the first few days, everything seemed to follow the script. Cavendish won the first two sprints and took the race lead. Stage 3 brought a minor plot development, and a fresh new character, when Toms Skujins, a young rider on the Hincapie Racing development team, soloed to victory and the race lead. Sagan delivered an uphill sprint to win on stage 4, and Cavendish made it a hat trick on stage 5.

But when race owners AEG Sports and organizers Medalist Sports were forced to relocate the stage 6 time trial due to a snowstorm in Big Bear Lake, the narrative tilted in Sagan’s favor.

What first seemed to be a logistical nightmare for the Amgen Tour organization — just imagine reassigning 500 hotel rooms in 24 hours — ended up rewarding them with the most thrilling finale a race organizer could conceive. The entire general classification was decided on the final stage, in the final sprint, and by a photo finish, with Sagan finishing three seconds ahead of Alaphilippe.

If one were to tally all of the bonus seconds earned by Sagan and Alaphilippe over eight stages, the French rider actually covered the 707 miles faster — Sagan earned a total of 32 bonus seconds over the week, while Alaphilippe earned only one. But that’s ultimately immaterial, as both men raced over the same course, with the same rules in place.

Rather than bonus seconds, it was the 10km time trial at Magic Mountain, a short, technical course that demanded equal parts power and bike-handling prowess, which changed the game.

Sagan’s victory on that stage, and the time gaps he opened — 45 seconds over Alaphilippe, and another 10 on Henao and Gesink — gave him motivation to attempt the unthinkable, to try to stay within contact of some of the best climbers in the sport on a 7km climb with an average gradient of nine percent.

Alaphilippe showed his class by responding to Henao’s acceleration at 4km to go with a winning counterattack, while further back, Sagan muscled his way up Mt. Baldy, pedaling at a much lower cadence than the much lighter climbers. And though he was suffering, the Slovakian champion never gave up the chase, sprinting across the line and collapsing at the finish. He ceded his GC lead by just two seconds.

With bonus time on offer on the final stage — at one intermediate sprint as well as on the finish line — the entire eight-stage race was going to come down to bonus seconds. And while Alaphilippe did his best, finishing third in the intermediate sprint behind Cavendish and Sagan, it proved an impossible task in the end.

Sagan was the next-best sprinter in the field, and though he barely managed to finish third at the line, in a photo finish with Tyler Farrar (MTN-Qhubeka), he’d done just enough to deliver the Amgen Tour its most thrilling finale in 10 editions.

“We really tried, but give credit to Tinkoff-Saxo,” Cavendish said. “They were strong, and they rode well. Even when they all finally exploded, Peter just chased things down on his own, he was still there. He really wanted that. He’s been consistent, he was on the podium every day, and I think, finally, he deserved it. We’re obviously disappointed but we tried everything, they tried everything, and they came out on top.”

On the final GC podium, the muscle-bound classics rider was flanked by a pair of lean climbers. With the exception of Mt. Baldy, where he finished sixth, Sagan had stood upon the podium every day of the race. Alaphilippe would have to be content with a stage win, second overall, and the best young rider’s jersey — on top of Cavendish’s four stage wins and the points jersey.

“It was so close today, but I feel good,” Alaphilippe said. “At the finish Mark Cavendish won the stage, and that’s good for the team. It’s a good experience for me, for sure. I’m a little disappointed about the general classification, but it’s already been a good performance from me. And it’s Peter Sagan in front of me, so…. I’m really happy about my victory yesterday, and today, one more time with Mark. It’s been a good experience for me. I’m really happy.”

And for Sagan, whose spring classics campaign delivered no victories, he seemed as surprised as anyone that he proved to be the central character of this year’s GC battle.

“I never imagined this. It’s a surprise. I think for me, and for everybody, this is a surprise,” Sagan said. “I was just riding for stage victories, day by day, and then I was in this situation to do well on the climb, and not lose too much time, and then today, here, I finished third, and… there you have it. I’m very happy. It’s crazy. But this is cycling, sometimes you have luck, and sometimes you lose. I’ve said before, cycling is very difficult, but it can also be very nice.”

The 2015 Amgen Tour of California also served as a reminder — Sagan’s story is far from finished.


Well that's all for now folks. I'll try to keep an eye on the Tour of Switzerland in the middle of June so anyone who is interested can get up to speed on who the contenders are for TdF this year. Here's wishing "good spinning" to all of you who ride.


"May the wind be at your back when the road tilts up"

318 posted on 05/25/2015 7:36:02 AM PDT by Baynative (For someone to get something without paying for it, someone else must pay for it without getting it.)
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To: Baynative

Great race, even though the video replay situation is less than ideal. Sagan, Cavendish and Alaphilippe put on a great show. Fractions of an inch determined it. I didn’t think Sagan beat Farrah to the line until the replay showed it by a whisker.

This is high dollar competitive sport. The graciousness shown by Sagan and the others was first class. Alphaphillipe may have more in store as he matures. Regardless, it was a great ride for him and he seemed well pleased.

Thanks for the post. (Unfortunately, after the Individual TT Saturday, Contador has the Giro about wrapped up. Absent disaster, the rest will be follow the leader. Tinkoff will just control and Contador sit on the wheel of contenders except for the steepest ramps.)

Oldplayer


319 posted on 05/25/2015 9:51:19 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: Baynative

Thanks for the post.


320 posted on 05/26/2015 3:19:15 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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