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I saw this article and was fascinated because the media, for some reason, has decided to ignore this fact and place the blame on firearms instead.

1 posted on 05/06/2014 8:07:03 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty
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2 posted on 05/06/2014 8:08:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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Who would have guessed? Crazy Drugs make people CRAZY!!!


3 posted on 05/06/2014 8:10:25 AM PDT by GraceG
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4 posted on 05/06/2014 8:11:32 AM PDT by humblegunner
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The ones not on drugs (and many on them) were almost all liberals.


5 posted on 05/06/2014 8:14:21 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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A huge percentage of them were also leftists or children of leftist.


6 posted on 05/06/2014 8:14:56 AM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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There could be something to that. Drugs do alter chemistry. But I would also like to know how many of them got dumped in day care from infancy?

This crap did not go on 30 years ago. I am not totally dumping on daycare. But, when we were kids, we were taught impulse control by our stay at home moms.

9 posted on 05/06/2014 8:20:15 AM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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But Prozac does carry a warning about suicidal thoughts in adolescents. That age group, along with a few people from their twenties, are the other thing these people all have in common.
I quit taking Lexapro when I realized not only was it not helping, and had put at least thirty pounds on me, it had me so numb I couldn’t cry at my brother’s funeral.


11 posted on 05/06/2014 8:25:01 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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How can shootings not have guns in common? Logic fail.

But the addition of the drug angle is plausible.


13 posted on 05/06/2014 8:29:12 AM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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It's important that this article be brought up again. The media has squelched all reference to what we already know. Since these drugs are still being prescribed, and now across all age groups, the threat of violence from their use will never go away. Those mind-killing "meds" are also behind some of those veteran's suicides, I suspect.

Some people who can't handle what the drugs have done to their minds take a gun to themselves instead of other people, I suspect.

16 posted on 05/06/2014 8:36:19 AM PDT by grania
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Add onto your list, Army NCO Robert Bales, killing 16 Afghan civilians in 2012, and taking anti-malaria pills.

I think we can probably glean forty various shootings and killings by military personnel since 2001...to guys under some type of medication.

My own hometown in Bama: 2010...the girl I grew up down the road from was shot by her brother. Also shoot: the brother’s wife, his daughter, and the sister’s young son. The shooter, I knew from high school, would turn the gun on himself shortly after murdering the four. The local cops refused to do complete exam over the guy or his medication habits. They just wanted to close this mess, bury the dead, and move on. There are some indicators that he was under some daze in the hours before the shooting.

I think we could do a trend analysis over the statistics, and actually go back to the 1980s when prescription drugs started to be fairly common place, and show from that point going back....there weren’t that many shootings, all due to no medication delivery devices.

This deserves more attention and more analysis. We should demand thorough investigations and complete toxicology results in every single shooting (even if it’s only one person wounded or shot).


21 posted on 05/06/2014 8:45:55 AM PDT by pepsionice
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This is an important enough topic to have more than one discussion

The bottom line question is how do you monitor those on mind altering drugs and prevent them from getting guns or access to guns?


23 posted on 05/06/2014 8:58:46 AM PDT by RWGinger
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Junk

No attempt at rigorous proof.


24 posted on 05/06/2014 8:59:53 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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If every mass shooting shared one thing in common, wouldn’t it be shooting...which requires a weapon?


26 posted on 05/06/2014 9:15:27 AM PDT by redhawk.44mag
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bkmk


27 posted on 05/06/2014 9:19:20 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Yup, the psychologist psychiatrists will be deciding whether who the thought criminals are, after they finish creating the reason for that change with their pharmacia. Specfically they'll decide whether you get to have your God given right to firearms.
31 posted on 05/06/2014 9:30:11 AM PDT by veracious
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If we look hard enough, we are likely to discover that the people on the list have a lot in common beyond mind-altering prescription drugs and firearms. I suspect that within 24 hours of the violent event for which they are noted, nearly all of them consumed caffeine, high fructose corn syrup, alcohol, and nicotine; drove a motor vehicle;, watched TV or a movie; played a video game; used Facebook, twitter, or similar social media; read a newspaper; pet a dog; and spoke to God. I also suspect that nearly all of them have liberal parents and a sense of entitlement; suffer from anger issues and depression; had been under the care of a mental health professional; listen to heavy metal music; and self-identify as progressives and Christians in an unjust society. Which, if any of these factors caused or contributed to their violence is anyone’s guess. And let’s keep in mind that they were probably prescribed psychotropic drugs in the first place because they were already mentally unstable (as opposed to becoming mentally unstable as a result of taking the psychotropic drugs).


34 posted on 05/06/2014 10:25:32 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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I don’t deny that the drugs might well make things worse in some or many cases, especially if taken improperly, which tends to happen. But it’s sort of obvious that people who are on psychiatric drugs exhibited symptoms of insanity, and were likely judged to be threats to others or themselves, prior to taking any meds. That’s exactly why they were prescribed the drugs.

A useful comparison would be occurrence of murderous/suicidal behavior by those on psych drugs, as a percentage of the total number on the drugs, versus percentage of murderous behavior by those not on psych drugs. Would there be even more suicides and homicidal rages if the meds didn’t exist?

Prior to the existence of these psych drugs, insane people were often institutionalized, and thus prevented from shooting up schools, etc. Now they are released. The meds make that a plausible alternative.

Would it help for parents of children and semi-adults on psych drugs to lock up the guns, ammo, explosives, etc., and control what their dependents are doing?
How about if parents of children and semi-adults on psych drugs kept their kids away from mass-murder training games and software? 90% of the mass killers seem to have been obsessive “shooter” game players (we can’t deal with that though — money and political contributions must flow).


36 posted on 05/06/2014 10:30:51 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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This isn’t something that will ever get a lot of play in the approved media. The argument is that many people are helped by antidepressants and other psychoactive drugs. It’s a multibillion dollar a year industry affecting everyone from tots in kindergartens to geriatrics in retirement centers. Yeah, there are people who get serotonin boosts and the following crashes, and can’t deal. They go on a killing/suicide rage, but all those dead people don’t stack up against all the pharmaceutically happy people.

My take is that there are plenty of schizophrenics, borderline personality, and manic depressives who need help, but most people being prescribed antidepressants don’t need them. People can’t get a physical without being asked if they are depressed. “Yeah, Obama is president. My dog died. I lost my job, and my wife ran off with the garbage man.” There is no getting out of that doctor’s office without a Prozac, or whatever they hand out these days, prescription. Get those serotonin levels up high enough, and things aren’t so bad, until the crash. That’s when the demons come.


37 posted on 05/06/2014 10:39:13 AM PDT by pallis
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How Shocking (saracasm) people who do mass shootings have severe mental issues,


71 posted on 05/07/2014 6:44:50 PM PDT by The Right wing Infidel
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