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ObamaCare: Could it Transform American
My Mind's Eye | 27 January 2014 | jumper

Posted on 01/27/2014 7:49:56 AM PST by Jumper

Could it Swallow up all American's Wealth within one Generation; the Transformative Effects of the Administrative State and of Obamacare may result in the ultimate property distribution for MOST Americans if their medical care leaves them a ward of the State's Inheritance Laws....


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Jim:

Has anyone thought of the long term consequences of Obamacare?

Could the genus of this it is that as a ward of the State, there is nothing to pass on to heirs if your costs exceed your life’s accumulation of wealth.

Could this be the ultimate Socialist State unveiled through the government taking the “little guys” property?

As the laws in most states require that estates be liquidated to recoup your medical costs or elderly care, will there be anything to pass on to others?

If I am correct in this being a long term consequence, then at some point the State, e.g., government will own everything except the corporations, as they currently have their own lives.

Maybe this is what Nancy Pepolsi and some Democrats sough to achieve which is the ultimate end-game to acquire all private property within a generation and transform American forever....

1 posted on 01/27/2014 7:49:56 AM PST by Jumper
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To: Jumper

Revelation 22:20
He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming quickly.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.


2 posted on 01/27/2014 7:53:40 AM PST by cuban leaf
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No question, that’s the plan——b/c inter-generational transfers of wealth is a longtime progressive bugaboo.


3 posted on 01/27/2014 7:54:32 AM PST by Liz
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To: cuban leaf

Transform??? I believe the word you are looking for is DESTROY.


4 posted on 01/27/2014 7:55:01 AM PST by CMailBag
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To: Jumper; Georgia Girl 2; All

In 2010 the Congressional Gee Oh Pee RINOs were happy to welcome the energy of those who were TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY.

The opposite is true today.

The major change happened in 2012 and 2013 when RINO John “Benghazi Coverup” Boehner refused to appoint a Special Prosecutor for Commie Obama’s IRS harassment of TEA Party Organizations.

By this single arrogant protection of Obama, Speaker Boehner became enemy number two for members of the TEA Party.

Additionally, the RINOs want to replace Obamacare with Boehnercare, Ryancare or RINOcare, which proves that RINOs support the continuance of the taxation punishment of working Americans by the illegal Commie mechanism of Mandatory Insurance Taxation.

Lenin would be very proud of both Obama and Boehner.

Any support of Democrats or RINOs is support of Commie Obamacare or its neo-Commie derivatives.

History has shown that most voters have made up their minds by July Fourth, and thus a Convention held after that date is pointless.

The best way to drum the RINOs out of the Republican Party is a massive write in campaign.

If we want to change the Political Party Controlled Voting System, then WE MUST USE THEIR SYSTEM AGAINST THEM.

Only Democrats voted for Obamacare, and therefore all Democrats are to be opposed.

RINOs propose “fixes” to Obamacare, and therefore all RINOs are to be opposed.

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Suggested Checks and Balances on Doormat RINOS, Democrats and the Leftstream Media:

!.) Send no money to the DNC or the RNC.

2.) Hold a TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY National Party Convention on April 22, EVERY YEAR FROM NOW ON.

3.) Flood the RINOs taxpayer paid office staff with all manner of irate communication every Wednesday FROM NOW ON.

4.) Write in or leave RINO slots blank on election ballots.

5.) Remember that as of 1-1-2014 we are now a Neo-Communist nation, thanks to Obamacare and our own doormat Congressional Cave In RINOs, and hold rallies and marches to remind the low information voter of that fact.

6.) In 2014 we boot out the RINOs.

7.) In 2015 and 2016 we give the action-based “TEA Party Numerical Constitutional Rating” on every Republican or Independent Federal Politician.


5 posted on 01/27/2014 7:55:07 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: CMailBag

Yes, the transformation will lead to its destruction as we know it, just as the Russian Revolution did to Russia.


6 posted on 01/27/2014 7:56:33 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Jumper

Don’t sign up, and don’t pay the “fine/tax”...

They will never come after you, but it will accumulate (with interest) and they will take your estate to pay it off when you die

Transfer everything to your children NOW


7 posted on 01/27/2014 7:57:02 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Jumper

sorry, but we each should pay our own costs, as long as we can anyway, before asking others (directly, or through the government’s taxing powers) to pay our way for us.

you die either with or without an estate.
your heirs either inherit a lot or a little or nothing at all....

they have no right to inherit anything, and you certainly have a duty to maintain and try to recover your own health while you are alive (!!!!)

as a couple of potential heirs have said here (as their beneficiary’s assets erode due to medical and nursing home expenses)... “either there will be something left over for us, or there won’t — we did nothing to earn any money from him and we have no right to receive even one cent inheritance..”


8 posted on 01/27/2014 7:57:05 AM PST by faithhopecharity (C)
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To: Mr. K

make sure you die ‘owning’ NOTHING


9 posted on 01/27/2014 7:57:58 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Jumper

Yes.

Socialism has no room for love and charity.


10 posted on 01/27/2014 7:58:00 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: faithhopecharity

you are correct, and I agree for the most part- except that this hideous law is just goig to proclaim your stuff as theirs, eventually.

The most mad I ever made someone in my life was some lady at the hospital complaining how they had to sell her aunts house to pay for her nursing home... I said that she just wanted to sell the house and keep the money and let the taxpayers pay for her aunt... you would think I had hit her she was so mad.


11 posted on 01/27/2014 8:00:32 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: cuban leaf

“fundamental” change, by definition, requires destruction of the existing foundation (Judeo-Christian based Constitutionally limited government).


12 posted on 01/27/2014 8:03:22 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Jumper

The only people who can survive in such a scenario are the super-rich who can afford the huge health care costs, and the perpetual dependent class, those who have nothing to lose to begin with.

The middle class is increasingly squeezed and ultimately destroyed.


13 posted on 01/27/2014 8:05:16 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: Jumper
Could it Swallow up all American's Wealth within one Generation

Only if it goes according to plan. So far, so good...

14 posted on 01/27/2014 8:07:06 AM PST by newheart (The worst thing the Left ever did was to convince the world it was not a religion.)
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To: MrB

“fundamental” change, by definition, requires destruction of the existing foundation (Judeo-Christian based Constitutionally limited government).


Yep. It’s gonna get ugly. And it’s not just the US.

But then, the Bible has been pretty clear for a long time about this sort of thing happening. It just sucks to be around when it happens.


15 posted on 01/27/2014 8:07:50 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Jumper

Well, I’m thinking we’ve probably added about 50 million people to the Medicaid rolls here by the time we are finished. That should add about 25 million more to the other entitlement rolls eventually. We will be at or near 1/2 of the population of this country on some sort of welfare. The other half, meanwhile thinking “why the hell bother anymore?”


16 posted on 01/27/2014 8:09:36 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Jumper
The bottom line to ANY question of this kind is answered;

If We Allow It.

I don't know if it's true, but I've heard there is no contract that can't be broken

If that's true, I would say there's no law that can't be rescinded. All it takes is the will to do it.

The "Just Say No" campaign is a winner IF everyone ... just said no.

17 posted on 01/27/2014 8:11:06 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Gaffer

My belief is that 2012 showed we’ve passed the tipping point.
Obama winning with $4 gas, 8% unemployment (12% actual), surging food prices, and trillion dollar deficits tells me the entitlement army is in command.


18 posted on 01/27/2014 8:12:06 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: nascarnation

I cannot argue with you there. We have to have already tipped. The only way it makes sense is that we have over half on welfare of some sort and the other half haven’t yet grabbed their guns.


19 posted on 01/27/2014 8:13:21 AM PST by Gaffer
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20 posted on 01/27/2014 8:15:58 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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