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The New Ammunition That Has Gun Owners Drooling
The Liberty Digest ^ | Jan 25, 2014 | Chad Cunningham

Posted on 01/25/2014 10:47:13 AM PST by Islander7

They call it the R.I.P. round and with good reason. G2 Research has released a new ammo that is taking the market by storm and has gun owners all over the country trying to find where to pick some up.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Outdoors; Reference
KEYWORDS: ammo; ammunition; banglist; hollowpoint; manstopper; rip; secondamendment
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To: mountainlion

maybe....maybe vest will work

vests can be cut with knives....and this thing looks like a bunch of knives...


41 posted on 01/25/2014 11:30:13 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Delta 21

They should rename it “fluffy Bunny “ or “ Goose Feather” round.


42 posted on 01/25/2014 11:31:41 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: reaganaut

Hm, I wonder what would happen if the grooves were cut to spiral a little bit?


43 posted on 01/25/2014 11:33:45 AM PST by mrreaganaut (Scott Walker 2016!)
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To: Delta 21
What will the prosecuting attorney have to say about you using a personal defence round named “RIP”?

or like myself....I reload ALL my own rounds.

I have been told it is not a good idea to reload defense rounds....some bottom feeder will start calling it ‘killer rounds’. as if my .45ACP FMJ rounds wont make someone room temperature...

44 posted on 01/25/2014 11:34:35 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

My thoughts as well. I have a CZ-75B that will reliably feed just about anything I put in it, and I’m thinking these might give it some indigestion....


45 posted on 01/25/2014 11:36:17 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

That’s exactly what I was thinking.


46 posted on 01/25/2014 11:36:28 AM PST by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: mrreaganaut
Hm, I wonder what would happen if the grooves were cut to spiral a little bit?

only the cylindrical part of the bullet which is only visible in the case in the picture above can engage the rifling to cause spin. the ogive or conical part of the bullet would never touch the rifling hence never impart spin...

47 posted on 01/25/2014 11:37:44 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

polish the ramp....


48 posted on 01/25/2014 11:38:39 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Islander7

I laughed at the part about the teeth “ripping through” various materials, like a buzz saw. What a joke. Look up the velocity of the projectile, look at the twist rate of the barrel and calculate how many time the projectile spins in, say, one foot. And the energy delivered by the rotating mass. It’s pathetically little.

Hint: The S&W .40 twist rate is 1-16” and the standard 9mm is 1-10”.


49 posted on 01/25/2014 11:39:28 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: mountainlion
A flack vest is filled with fiberglass strands that catch the sharp irregular shapes to protect the wearer. The so called cop killer bullets were hard with a Teflon coating that would help penetrate.

Complete nonsense. Many years ago some manufacturers experimented with steel bullets to increase penetration. The hard steel would wear out barrels much faster than softer copper or lead, so the bullets were coated with Teflon to prevent barrel damage. The MSM called these "cop-killer bullets"; the denser material may have been better at penetrating body armor but the Teflon didn't have a thing to do with it.

50 posted on 01/25/2014 11:41:32 AM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: Yorlik803
"Can you imagine what a 12 Ga round like this would do to a person."

you could probably get pretty close results with a standard Deer slug a bench vise and a dremel tool...

51 posted on 01/25/2014 11:42:31 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Vaquero

No need. That pistol will easily consume stuff that would gag a maggot. Far and away the most reliable auto loader I’ve ever owned, carried or fired, with any bullet configuration I’ve ever dared try in it. I just question whether the particular geometry of this projectile will lend itself to regular feeding in already extremely reliable firearms. It very well may, i just have some big questions about it doing so.


52 posted on 01/25/2014 11:44:50 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Turbopilot
A flack vest is filled with fiberglass strands

The Viet Nam “flack vests” were to stop shrapnel and not bullets. The one that I wore was filled with a fiberglass mat. I really don't care if you call me a liar or not but you should at least use facts.

I also thing if you bother to look up Teflon you would find several theories.

53 posted on 01/25/2014 11:46:25 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Islander7

Pretty cool, looks like they just took the flechette shotgun rounds and adapted them to work with a pistol cartridge.


54 posted on 01/25/2014 11:47:51 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Islander7

These are cool but I’ll play devil’s advocate:

-That’s a very light bullet for 9mm. Once it sheds the “teeth” there’s very little mass penetrating into the target.
-The video claims these things penetrate any known obstacle, then shows them penetrating a lot of ballistic gel and paper. I think they shoot one cinder block.
-I’m skeptical that the teeth could act in a saw-like manner upon hitting a target. If fired out of a barrel of, say, 1:10 twist, the bullet is traveling almost a foot forward for every 360 degree rotation. There’s no way that you could achieve any real cutting action with the small rotation the bullet would have in passing through a fraction of an inch of material.
-No mention of cost, but I’m guessing it’ll be high compared to traditional self-defense ammo.
-The videos don’t show any comparison to other JHP rounds. You can make cool videos with any ammo but if this stuff is supposed to be better than other self-defense ammo they should show a comparison.

For all I know these things may be the greatest invention in ammo since the self-loading cartridge. But I wouldn’t say I’m “drooling” just yet.


55 posted on 01/25/2014 11:50:35 AM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I have a bone stock US Army Remington Rand 1911A1 circa 1943 that will feed anything...
....my son has a retro Colt 1911A1 made in 2002. it has the Property US Govt (they made it slightly different so as not to be confused with the originals ) Both are about as accurate as the other....but his does not like feed anything but FMJ rounds....

he really gets pissed when he sees mine shoot lead bullets without a glitch.....


56 posted on 01/25/2014 11:54:55 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Yorlik803
From Russia with love. This is what they've used against Ukrainian protestors.
57 posted on 01/25/2014 11:56:24 AM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: mountainlion
If you want to continue spreading the MSM-generated myth that Teflon coatings on bullets increase their ability to penetrate body armor, you can take it up with the guy who invented the Teflon-coated bullet:

Kopsch: "Adding a teflon coating to the round added 20% penetration power on metal and glass. Critics kept complaining about teflon's ability to penetrate body armor. That was nonsense typical of do-gooders. In fact, teflon cut down on the round's ability to cut through the nylon or kevlar of body armor."

58 posted on 01/25/2014 11:57:03 AM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: Joe 6-pack
"I have a CZ-75B..."

I always sensed there was something prestigious about you.

59 posted on 01/25/2014 11:58:22 AM PST by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: Max in Utah

I said: “The film says there is no lead.”
You said: “Non-toxic, therefore healthy.”

Glad the attacker will die healthy.

I have lead pellets for an air gun pistol, and they turn my hand black while I load that pistol, so I wear throw away plastic gloves to handle those pellets. I mean those are so dirty, it’s bad.


60 posted on 01/25/2014 12:01:25 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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