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Lessons In Urban Warfare: “People Will Die In Huge Numbers”
SHTF School ^ | 9/7/13 | Selco

Posted on 09/07/2013 2:14:29 PM PDT by Kartographer

We are at interesting point in time. It might be point that changes human history if some of those who rule us (sorry to call it like that but that is situation right now) play their game and it escalates. Im happy to know most of you have already proper storage and skills to try your best when storm hits. Let’s hope we don’t need anything of this.

If you have time, stop eating (but maybe get drink) and spend half hour to watch the video below. It is just out since 4th of September 2013 but shows bit older video footage of people fighting for their survival in Syria in current conflict. It’s bloody and maybe disturbing for some, so maybe don't eat. I speak a lot about how I moved through city and fought in my survival course and see many similarities. Too many, so I had to take some breaks looking at this. Anyway, I have comments about this video below.

(Excerpt) Read more at shtfschool.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: cw2; preparedness; preppers; shtf; teotwawki; urbanwarfare
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To: Pollster1

The only fort I would have is either a boundary fence or something to keep animals in/out. As far as keeping people out, If SHTF, I’ll be going to the family acreage 100 miles from a city. I dont expect a mad rush of people going there when there more attractive targets for thieves and robbers.


41 posted on 09/07/2013 3:51:08 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Pollster1

“Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man.” Gen. George S. Patton.

When the thin veneer of civility breaks badly into thick, hard chaos, then — as the video illustrates — we see blood in the streets. The heart of the matter lies in the question: “whose blood?” The answer is: human blood, in the streets, with liberty and justice for none. That is the horrid reality of war. “I love it. God help me I do love it so. I love it more than my life.” (George C, Scott, as Patton)

That’s the spirit of a warrior, and that’s the preparation for survival.


42 posted on 09/07/2013 3:53:50 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all smart little girls to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: Pollster1; JRandomFreeper; PowderMonkey
 
 
Such fortifications done and done badly - which is a mistake that is too easy to do - would boomerang on you by actually providing cover for an attacking force. I agree with others here that being mobile and not bogged down in static fortifications is coherent strategy, yet there are circumstances where you would need to fortify. The trick is to make it flat out inconvenient and difficult as possible for hostiles to make an effective approach on your position. You have to create the circumstances to do so on your terms - not the enemy's. You may want to find and consult a copy of the "Combined Arms Obstacle Integration" manual for ideas of what I am talking about.
 
 

43 posted on 09/07/2013 3:54:12 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: driftdiver; Pollster1

Driftdiver beat me to it:
“Failure of Civility”

http://www.amazon.com/Failure-Civility-Mike-Garand/dp/0615670105/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1378594386&sr=1-1&keywords=a+failure+of+civility


44 posted on 09/07/2013 3:54:58 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: headsonpikes

Ping.


45 posted on 09/07/2013 3:55:04 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Johnny - it’s “pikes”, not “spikes”. ;-P


46 posted on 09/07/2013 3:55:46 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Yeah, but I didn't want to ping him. Spikes would do.

/johnny

47 posted on 09/07/2013 3:57:06 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: PowderMonkey

How does one avoid sepsis?


48 posted on 09/07/2013 3:58:42 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: TEXOKIE

Fascinating about the batteries.


49 posted on 09/07/2013 4:06:00 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: dynachrome; Travis McGee

Note one of the reviews of that book includes a claim of a recommendation by one Matthew Bracken.


50 posted on 09/07/2013 4:17:41 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: lapsus calami

Want you want is an appropriate amount of cover, concealment, and terrain which will slow down and funnel attackers.

If I lived in the country I would also include barriers which would hinder tracked vehicles.


51 posted on 09/07/2013 4:30:40 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
 
 
Precisely
 
 

52 posted on 09/07/2013 4:31:34 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Lazamataz

“How does one avoid sepsis?”

I don’t know if you are kidding or not.

Sepsis is an infection in the blood. The infection goes to every organ in your body and you die. Even in a hospital with antibiotics going through your body, you will be lucky to live and more likely to die than live.

If you get an infection anywhere on the outside of your body, treat it immediately. Have tubes of triple antibiotic ointment or cream to treat cuts/wounds. The point is to keep the infection where it is, on the outside and not inside your body.

If there is an infection inside your body and there are no antibiotics for you to take internally, you are in trouble as that infection is the kind to invade your blood stream much more so than an outside wound.

Example: My husband had double pneumonia, was in the hospital, and doctor said he thought he might have sepsis now and sent off a blood sample. He thought that because other organs began to not function well. I knew he would die if that was true, but the blood came back not infected.


53 posted on 09/07/2013 4:35:07 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Lazamataz

Sepsis is the immune system’s response to a serious infection. A total collapse/major organ failure. Could be bacterial in origin, but also fungi, viruses, and parasites. In short, don’t get scratched while traversing rusty barbed wire fences, be very careful of what you drink, and most importantly, don’t get yourself shot. All incoming rounds have right of way.


54 posted on 09/07/2013 4:35:43 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Pollster1
"Would traditional fences, brick/stone walls, dirt/sandbag berms, be helpful in protecting a home or a neighborhood,..."





55 posted on 09/07/2013 4:40:23 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Marcella
Soap works pretty well, too.

/johnny

56 posted on 09/07/2013 4:48:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Lazamataz; ErnBatavia

“Fascinating about the batteries.”

I thought so too, but ErnBatavia reports that it did not work upon repeated trial. Oh well. I did not try it yet.


57 posted on 09/07/2013 4:48:54 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Marcella; Lazamataz

A close friend of mine died from sepsis. He simply didn’t take care of himself, got sick, and still didn’t take care of himself. By the time his wife decided to ignore his wishes to not call an ambulance it was too late. He died on the way to the hospital.

Take care of yourself and treat ANY wound properly. Wash it and use the anti-biotic ointment. In field conditions the simplest wound can kill you if you don’t care for it.


58 posted on 09/07/2013 4:54:11 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer

The question you have to ask in any SHTF scenario is “what will the military do?” The Army and Marine Corps (including Guard and Reserve components) have 100+ ground force battalions and plenty of fuel, rations, ammunition and air support. Most of the population and industrial infrastructure is within range of naval gunnery and all of it is reachable by strategic bombers and fighter-bombers. Unless the military stays in its quarters, or completely dissolve with their armories and storehouses somehow destroyed, what those battalions, ships and planes do is going to determine how it goes.

(You don’t need to secure every 40 acre spread in the middle of nowhere or every ghetto housing project, and you probably don’t even need to control any of them — you just have to control infrastructure for food, fuel and media, and that’s more than enough to achieve whatever disposition of chaos you choose.)


59 posted on 09/07/2013 4:55:45 PM PDT by only1percent
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To: Marcella

I wasn’t kidding; thanks for the info!


60 posted on 09/07/2013 4:59:10 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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