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Theoretical physics: The origins of space and time
Nature ^ | 8/28/13 | Zeeya Merali

Posted on 08/28/2013 3:33:35 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Many researchers believe that physics will not be complete until it can explain not just the behaviour of space and time, but where these entities come from.

“Imagine waking up one day and realizing that you actually live inside a computer game,” says Mark Van Raamsdonk, describing what sounds like a pitch for a science-fiction film. But for Van Raamsdonk, a physicist at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada, this scenario is a way to think about reality. If it is true, he says, “everything around us — the whole three-dimensional physical world — is an illusion born from information encoded elsewhere, on a two-dimensional chip”. That would make our Universe, with its three spatial dimensions, a kind of hologram, projected from a substrate that exists only in lower dimensions.

This 'holographic principle' is strange even by the usual standards of theoretical physics. But Van Raamsdonk is one of a small band of researchers who think that the usual ideas are not yet strange enough. If nothing else, they say, neither of the two great pillars of modern physics — general relativity, which describes gravity as a curvature of space and time, and quantum mechanics, which governs the atomic realm — gives any account for the existence of space and time. Neither does string theory, which describes elementary threads of energy.

Van Raamsdonk and his colleagues are convinced that physics will not be complete until it can explain how space and time emerge from something more fundamental — a project that will require concepts at least as audacious as holography. They argue that such a radical reconceptualization of reality is the only way to explain what happens when the infinitely dense 'singularity' at the core of a black hole distorts the fabric of space-time beyond all recognition, ...

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: bang; big; origin; physics; space; stringtheory; theoretical; time
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A little light reading for your afternoon coffee break, hehehehe... But there are some fascinating graphics and videos at the source link!
1 posted on 08/28/2013 3:33:35 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

The “rubber sheet” analogy of gravity is broken.

The space that and object displaces has to go elsewhere and it it is expressed as negative energy in a sphere some distance from the massive object.


2 posted on 08/28/2013 3:41:21 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: LibWhacker

Is there a FReeper cosmologist?

I have a way of explaining inflation without breaking the speed limit. I’d like to fly it by someone skilled in the art in private so I don’t embarrass my self in public with an obvious mistake...


3 posted on 08/28/2013 3:43:29 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: LibWhacker

In the beginning GOD...just keep reading from there.


4 posted on 08/28/2013 3:52:06 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: PoloSec

http://www.geraldschroeder.com/AgeUniverse.aspx

Or read some of this guy’s stuff. Excellent reads.


5 posted on 08/28/2013 3:54:12 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: LibWhacker
Reminds me of NON SERVIAM by Stanislav Lem, reprinted with commentary in THE MIND'S I by Douglas Hofstadter.

From the story:

There is something unworthy in informing personoids that we have created them in enclosures that only simulate infinity, that they are microscopic "psychocysts," capsulations in our world.

6 posted on 08/28/2013 3:56:25 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: LibWhacker

I’m pretty sure that the rest of you were put here for my entertainment.


7 posted on 08/28/2013 3:57:20 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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so I don’t embarrass my self in public with an obvious mistake...

And rob us of the great enjoyment we could have at your expense? You're no fun.

8 posted on 08/28/2013 3:58:22 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: dr_lew

I love Lem.


9 posted on 08/28/2013 3:58:28 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: LibWhacker
It's quite complicated: it's a wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey sort of thing. . .


10 posted on 08/28/2013 3:59:09 PM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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“Imagine waking up one day and realizing that you actually live inside a computer game,”

Well I think its high time my user hooks me up.

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11 posted on 08/28/2013 4:01:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: blueunicorn6

Speaking of which... Lol, I read your Freeper homepage. Pretty entertaining, thx!


12 posted on 08/28/2013 4:03:15 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Love these types of threads. I consider time to not be relevant, therefore my conclusion is the universe is one dimensional.


13 posted on 08/28/2013 4:07:48 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: kevao

There will be plenty of opportunities, don’t you worry about it.


14 posted on 08/28/2013 4:12:14 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: LibWhacker

Don’t hold your breath waiting for this one to get sorted out.

It took 50 years just to find the Higgs boson. And almost as long to solve the solar neutrino problem.


15 posted on 08/28/2013 4:15:32 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: LibWhacker

Great post! This is a nice summary.


16 posted on 08/28/2013 4:22:13 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: jodyel

I read the article you linked.

Simplicity is what I strive for...in a nutshell God created a mature man, to have dominion over a mature earth.


17 posted on 08/28/2013 4:29:51 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: null and void

The thing about cosmology is that no one is really an expert. The biggest difference between a duffer and a PhD theoretical Physicist when it comes to cosmology is that the Physicist knows how to make his ideas sound sophisticated - he knows the language of his trade. But the ideas are only marginally more likely to be right.


18 posted on 08/28/2013 4:44:05 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: LibWhacker

Sounds like someone on acid rambling...


19 posted on 08/28/2013 4:53:30 PM PDT by Figment
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In 2006, Ashtekar and his colleagues reported7 a series of simulations that took advantage of that fact, using the loop quantum gravity version of Einstein's equations to run the clock backwards and visualize what happened before the Big Bang. The reversed cosmos contracted towards the Big Bang, as expected. But as it approached the fundamental size limit dictated by loop quantum gravity, a repulsive force kicked in and kept the singularity open, turning it into a tunnel to a cosmos that preceded our own.

This year, physicists Rodolfo Gambini at the Uruguayan University of the Republic in Montevideo and Jorge Pullin at Louisiana State University in Baton Rouge reported a similar simulation for a black hole. They found that an observer travelling deep into the heart of a black hole would encounter not a singularity, but a thin space-time tunnel leading to another part of space.

I found this fascinating. I have for years thought that the singularity before the Big Bang must have been very much like a Black Hole. This reinforces that theory.

In these two simulations both the singularity prior to the Big Bang and the singularity of a Black Hole become tunnels. It could simply be that both simulations have a common or different mathematical errors that lead to this tunnel effect but I find it intriguing.

20 posted on 08/28/2013 4:58:19 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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