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Gingrich: Republicans have 'zero' health care ideas
CNN (blogs) ^ | August 14th, 2013 | Peter Hamby

Posted on 08/15/2013 7:36:39 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network

No big huge raving fan of Gingrich anymore, but when he's right he's completely on the money:

Boston (CNN) – Former House Speaker and presidential candidate Newt Gingrich reprimanded his fellow Republicans in unusually harsh terms Wednesday, blaming GOP members of Congress for developing "zero" alternatives to President Obama's health care reform law.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
US healthcare has lots of problem. BIG BIG problems.

It does. Just one example from a few days ago in the family (this took place in Mumbai, India for a cost comparison): My wife's sister had a chunk of concrete fall on her head, was semi-conscious for a while, taken by a friend to the ER, was stapled up and presented with a bill...for SIXTY DOLLARS equivalent. What would this have cost here $6,000, $12,000? 100X or 200X more here? Conceivably even more - I saw a bill for an ankle fracture for over $100,000.

61 posted on 08/15/2013 9:18:23 AM PDT by steve86 (Thank you for your prayers for Margaret!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

While we’re at it, we need to have an alternative to amnesty for illegals ... and an alternative to recognition of gay marriage ... and an alternative to Voter ID ... and an alternative to *not raising taxes* ... and an alternative to the Second Amendment ... and an alternative to the Democrats’ approach to dealing with the *very real* problem of *anthropogenic climate change* ...

The solutions to all these problem is to stop letting the Demagogic Party define what the problems are and to stop letting them create them in the first place, IOW, vote out all Democrats, and if that doesn’t work, well...


62 posted on 08/15/2013 9:25:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Durus
The Republican Party needs to advocate for free market solutions...

And how would that differ from what we had pre-Obamacare?

63 posted on 08/15/2013 9:32:47 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: livius
Actually,there was a problem. I’m self employed and I couldn’t buy health insurance

Agree: that's a problem. It used to be (so I thought) that you could sign on with some sort of exclusion period - say 2 years - in which coverage could be denied for condition X, Y, or Z. I would support a mandate for something like that: clearly you weren't attempting to 'game' the system.

64 posted on 08/15/2013 9:33:05 AM PDT by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: Common Sense 101

“1. Reduce government perverting the healthcare marketplace through regulation and legislation. 2. Leave it to the marketplace.”

That’s not really the Republican plan. Though if they actually did that, it would probably work.

But that would mean getting rid of Medicare/Medicaid, treating hospitals and other healthcare providers like any other business, and removing any requlation of insurance that prevents someone from buying only what they want (and living with the consequences of it)


65 posted on 08/15/2013 10:11:12 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: 0.E.O
Pre-Obama care wasn't free market, regardless, are you honestly suggesting that the Republican party advocate a supra-constitutional plan just so it is seen as "offering something"?

Some people still actually give a shit about the constitution you know. I thought that was supposed to be the Republican party.

66 posted on 08/15/2013 10:39:25 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Let get-out-of-the-way free market entrepreneurial capitalism have a free reign. No government involvement. None. The only way that's going to happen is the eventual success of a third party or an armed revolution. Take your pick. 'Reforming' the republican party is not going to happen. Newt railing on about the republicans having no 'alternative' health care plan is a perfect example of how entrenched they are. The plan Newt is simple: free market entrepreneurial capitalism. Any questions?
67 posted on 08/15/2013 11:25:28 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Graewoulf; All

“Name recognition and “favorites” aside, if we are to accurately choose leaders who will lead us back onto the right track, we MUST be brutally honest about the probable effects of the ideas from these leaders.

We need to call ‘em as we see ‘em, and from what I see, Gingrich is no Conservative on the topic of the Nationization of the US Medical Profession.

What say all of you?”

I flip flopped between a few candidates . My first was Santorum but I voted for Newt in the FL primary because he was way ahead of Santorum in FL and closest to beating Romney.

Because the minority/Progressives have MASTERED the art of hijacking the nomination by splitting and amortizing the conservative vote over several conservatives - - - the ONLY - ONLY - ONLY -ONLY - I REPEAT - ONLY WAY we will NOT be hijacked again in 2016 once again by the Progressives Rove and Idiots Inc is if we work on mandatory RUN-OFF ELECTIONS for the top two Presidential primary candidates who do not achieve a majority.

We will not do that though because most of us are more interested in bitching and whining than we are in actually defeating those assclowns.

We need to tar and feather Priebus, Rove and all of those GOP imposter/traitors and get them OUT of our party and then make a national party rule - or- if that cannot be done, work to require primary run-offs state by state.


68 posted on 08/15/2013 11:40:29 AM PDT by publius321
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To: Alberta's Child

While I agree with you along the states rights argument. Much of the heartburn caused by health insurance is because someone had to move for a job, or whatever, and they lost health insurance and couldn’t get it again because of existing conditions.
Do you know of any other examples siilar to this? I am interested in researching the subject.


69 posted on 08/15/2013 1:19:24 PM PDT by vpintheak (I am thankful to be God blessed & chosen! Are you!?)
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To: vpintheak
You touched on two separate issues there, none of which really has anything to do with insurance coverage across state lines.

The first issue can be fixed by completely cutting the link between medical insurance and employment. There's no good reason why it has become the norm for employers to pay for medical coverage for their employees and even their employees' families.

The second issue involves insurance coverage for pre-existing conditions. It sucks to be in that position, but requiring a medical insurance carrier to cover a policy holder with a pre-existing medical condition is like requiring a life insurance company to sell someone a life insurance policy after that person has died.

70 posted on 08/15/2013 1:29:20 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Alberta's Child

That is what public health hospitals used to be about, treating the uninsured.


71 posted on 08/15/2013 1:32:44 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Alberta's Child

Actually, the Public Health Service was started to care for Merchant Marines while visiting ports, but was expanded to cover the military and anyone else, who did not have insurance. We should re-establish the Public Health system. It should be staffed by doctors who would have their student loans forgiven in exchange for service. One year of loans for one year of service, plus pay.


72 posted on 08/15/2013 1:38:21 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Alberta's Child

Again, I agree. Let a person search and find their own insurance. Sounds good to me! Free markets!
Second, and this isn’t really a slippery slope, it’s simple morality. If someone has been covered under insurance for a medical condition, and then for any reason, they have to move to a different state. They can be excluded from insurance coverage. They are left to rot, to “suck it up” and fend for themselves. They make too much money, and aren’t the poor protected class and can’t get medicaid. What is so right about that?


73 posted on 08/15/2013 1:40:36 PM PDT by vpintheak (I am thankful to be God blessed & chosen! Are you!?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

That is bull. The GOP had plenty of alternatives to Obamacare. They can pull ‘em out and dust ‘em off any time.


74 posted on 08/15/2013 1:45:13 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Alberta's Child

Government regulations have permitted the insurance industry to get away with whatever it wants - and at the same time, have also stopped it from offering major medical, high-deductible, catastrophic, etc. individual policies. Federal regs also prevent shopping for insurance among states in which you do not live.

Insurance is a heavily regulated industry, and the insurance companies are basically both controlled by and in bed with the Federal government.

One of the reasons that insurance companies stopped offering group insurance to small professional organizations of self-employed persons, such as actors, translators, or similar professions, is that the government compelled them to cover the enormously high costs of AIDS treatment. Apparently it didn’t stop them from bailing on these organizations, however, which is why group policies that had once been available to professional organizations then disappeared.

I hope you weren’t naïve enough to think the insurance industry has ever not been under the control of the Federal government.


75 posted on 08/15/2013 3:09:22 PM PDT by livius
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To: vpintheak

The insurance industry is not free and probably never has been. Between crony capitalism, government regulation to guarantee results and private risk avoidance, the insurance agency has made itself the wealthiest industry in the US while at the same time providing poor or minimum services.


76 posted on 08/15/2013 3:11:23 PM PDT by livius
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77 posted on 08/15/2013 3:43:27 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon the Sodmite Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: McGruff
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====== NEWT GINGRICH'S GREAT 2012 CAMPAIGN SPEECHES ======





CPAC 2012 Speech -- Newt Gingrich, U.S. President Elect

CPAC 2012 Speech -- Sarah Palin, U.S. Vice President Elect




Nancy Reagan (1995) : Ronnie turned that Torch over to Newt



NRA Second Amendent Speech -- Newt Gingrich



U.S. Energy Independence in 2012 -- Speech


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"America's Space Renaissance" in Florida !


Newt Gingrich -- Vision for America in Space Again




Why is Newt Gingrich So Angry ?


Newt Gingrich : South Carolina Victory Speech (2012-01-21)


Newt Gingrich : Christmas Day in 1776 George Washington's "Victory or Death"




Newt Stoutly Defends the Second Amendment (Right to Bear Arms)


Newt Gingrich – Constitutional Removal of Radial-Liberal Federal Judges




Newt Slams an "Increasingly Radical" EPA




Newt Defends Israel and Shows how the Palestinians are an "Invented" people !


Newt Warns against the Proposed 9-11 NYC Islamic Mosque and Islamic Sharia Law


Gingrich Compares Radical-Isalmics Muslims To Nazis


Newt Gingrich On The Threat Of Radical Islam


Newt Gingrich – America’s Defense of Judea-Christian Ideals and Defense against Islamic Fascism


Gingrich: Aggressive Prosecution of Radical-Militant U.S. Muslim Groups




Newt Gingrich: Response to CNN’s John King “Divorce Question”


Newt Gingrich to Juan Williams: Americans Want Paychecks, Not Food Stamps


Gingrich BLASTS Chris Wallace for his "Gotcha" Questions at Iowa Debate




Newt Destroys Ron Paul's Foreign Policy Vis-à-Vis Killing Osama bin Laden




Gingrich: My Credential Is 4.2% Unemployment


Newt Slams Obama's Stupidity on the Keystone Pipeline


Gingrich attacks Federal Reserve (Bernanke and Geitner) Deception and Corruption


Newt Discusses Job Creation and Dismantling Federal (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac)




Newt: No American President Should Bow to a Saudi King


Newt Gingrich: Super PAC Committee Is Washington's Dumbest Idea





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78 posted on 08/15/2013 4:14:08 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon the Sodmite Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
What is the GOP alternative?

Get the government completely out of the health business.

79 posted on 08/15/2013 4:29:10 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Can’t fight something with nothing.

How about the Constitution.

Where does it say the federal government is to be in the wealth redistribution business?

80 posted on 08/15/2013 4:31:20 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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