Posted on 07/01/2013 3:45:59 AM PDT by MCF
Edited on 07/02/2013 5:15:38 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
The truth is usually a tough thing to accept, so I understand if this is flagged. It would be a cowardly thing to do, but I understand it. Some people just ignore unpleasant truths. However, if you think ignoring the problem, or trying to censor the truth, will help our black children improve, you're dreaming. This is important, so I'm happy to repost - indefinitely if necessary. I find it interesting that NO ONE has had the intellect to refute anything in the essay. They can only attempt to censor it, as if doing so somehow makes it invalid. Weak minds, weak minds.
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I would not doubt it. I based my assessment on what I have been told by Blacks and what I have observed in the area where I live.
What would the “wrong” message be?
We already know that public schools are detrimental to the health, morals, and liberty of humanity,
urban schools are just 10 orders of magnitude worse.
The Boomers were children or teenagers in the 1960s and didn’t create the “Great Society.” That was actually the work of the “Greatest Generation.”
The Boomers were the ones who had to suffer from it, growing up in cities plagued by riots and crime, paying ever ascending taxes to support the welfare class, and seeing the good education they had received (even in the public schools) unavailable for their children.
The major reason why this has come to past is due to the Institutionalized White Guilt Complex which totally grovels before the Black Race Card in every aspect;
http://blackracismandracehatred.blogspot.com/2013/03/white20woman20begs20forgivenessjpg.html
Culture is definitely the problem. It’s a “culture” that existed among lower-class, mostly rural Southern blacks who had migrated to Northern cities during and after WWII. It would have died out simply because no “culture” can survive with such a lack of values: no culture can survive without work, family, communication skills, a respect for law and the rejection of crime, and a host of other things that we take for granted in any functioning social group.
It only survived artificially because black ghettos became the ultimate petrie dish for US liberal dreams of a totally state-supported and state-managed population. So ghetto black culture has been artificially maintained for 50 years now (several generations, especially with the early-childbearing of blacks) and is now taken as the norm for all black Americans. This idea, btw, is reinforced by popular culture, which promotes the image in everything from rap music to sneaker sales, much of which actually benefits well-off whites such as the bigwigs in the media.
You’ve glossed over “failed policies that nobody has reversed for decades”. The boomers have augmented and promoted these failed policies from their inception.
It makes them feel good to have nice thoughts, results be damned. The boomers have coasted on the affluence won by the greatest generation, they are presiding over the decline.
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There are many excellent messages in that essay, and urging homeschooling is certainly one of the better ones.
It doesn't take a social scientist to see where this train is heading.
All I have to say is like hell you will disarm me or my children with that imminent threat looming out there on the horizon.
I worked with an African American woman who one day explained her experience coming from a nearly 100% African American school in a rural area of the south to a similar high school in Boston. She was shocked by the behavior of the students in Boston, and their lack of discipline. The type of behavior described in the article is a hallmark of urban schools, not African American students or schools per se.
A major portion of the blame for the situation falls on the schools who let that culture grow in their classrooms.
What I don’t get is why we (whites) put up with this crap. Our money builds the schools. Our money hires the teachers. Our money buys the books and the breakfasts and the bodyguards. Why aren’t we all standing up at local school board meetings and saying “Fix this mess or you don’t get another dime from me.”
Schools are for white kids too.
What a waste of tax money!!
There are schools that have had projects teaching kids blues, '50s style music, even country and it's gone real well. My favorite schools deal with the discipline by remediating loud students and those who speak unkindly to others. It does take care of the situations that follow in most other places, part of the reason being the loud-mouths transfer out.
I've heard even black students saying that they don't like environments that are "too black". That would be when the negative cultural tendencies take hold, it isn't even a race issue.
I'd also like to point out that these attitudes and behaviors show up in even Caucasian-dominated classes if their environments at home and school get too far removed from higher expectations and possibilities for achievement.
What's the answer? Assimilation and job-market expectations. That's why I'm so opposed to the US ptb keeping the floodgates open for invaders who compete for those lower income and entry level jobs. Doesn't anyone get it? Black US citizens are being replaced by hispanics. It's geonocide by demographics, and nobody seems to want to do anything about it.
I agree with you re: socioeconomic data being more important than race. I taught middle school in a mixed school (half and half with about 10% Hispanic) and most kids were middle class. I had black students who were “nerds” and wanted to learn. They had parents who were doctors and lawyers and teachers, and were what we would consider normal. Then, the school district decided to bus some inner city kids to the school and totally changed the population. The ghetto kids were (almost to a one) perfectly described in this letter. The entire feel of the school was upended and chaotic. I was lucky because I was youngish, had long blonde hair and was considered attractive; the black boys loved me and listened to me more than many other teachers.
I had a parent conference with a black parent (lawyer) who begged me to keep his son away from “n*****s”. I was flabbergasted, but understood (his nerdy son was trying to ingratiate himself with the thugs, probably for protection). In another parent conference, some teachers and I were accused of racism because we were disciplining a “dark skinned” child. The complaint was we were mean to him because he was so dark. One of our principals said, “Ma’am, if a white person is a racist, they don’t care about the shade of black; they hate them all.”
I have a theory, and in the years since I formulated it, it always seems to bear out; liberals treat low income blacks like pets. Think of penned up dogs in someone’s yard. They open the door and throw food and treats at them, but rarely take them out for walks. They are terrified of them, but since that is the exact type of racist sentiment they blame on Republicans, they have to try and cover it up with more treats. Whenever we hear of any type of liberal placating behavior to low class blacks, my husband and I just say the word “pets”. That is all they are to those people.
I would be so angry with libs if I were a middle class black person, for giving cover to the disintegration of the black family, for excusing all bad behavior and grammar as the fault of whites. Lines should be drawn socioeconomically because it is the trash that behaves this way, not the middle and upper class blacks.
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There are many people who could have reversed these policies, but they were put into place by a generation conditioned by FDR and his massive federal takeover, and I think that made it unthinkable to do a wholesale reversal. Also, once the money starts flowing, everybody buys into it. Look at the black race pimps, look at all the “agencies” and NGOs that make money on the poverty industry.
Heck, Nixon (elected by boomers as a conservative) even extended the LBJ policies.
Absolutely. Unfortunately, a discussion revolving around the truth would have to address the two most utterly taboo subjects in American society.
1. The possibility that black people are on average of lower IQ than some other races. That this possible reality has led to atrocious crimes in the past does not make the reality (if such it is) any less real. If it is the case, then any attempts to improve things are based on a false premise and doomed to failure. A clear-eyed investigation of facts, using good science, would allow at least the possibility of reality-based programs that would do some good. That bad science has been done in this area in the past doesn't mean good science cannot be done, only that is has not yet been done.
2. The fact, IMO, that much of "black culture" is negative and severely counter-productive. Again, this is simply a case of facing facts squarely and responding appropriately. But it runs right into the notion that "all cultures are equal, except for 'white culture' which is inferior."
All attempts to develop policies for "solving the black problem" are based on these two firmly held beliefs. If they are indeed false, then all such policies are doomed to failure.
The start of wisdom is the willingness to look reality in the face and understand what you see.
I believe this piece was originally by a writer and sometime teacher named Nicholas Stix, actual or pen name I don’t know.
I could be wrong but I think material has been added to the the original essay. It is possible it was originally published in City Journal.
Just my two cents, off to work (not intentionally posting and running).
I have 2 friends who teach in schools just like this.
One of them wrote to me about breaking up fights, calling security, being cussed out, having a parent yell at him and being kicked in the shins 30 times in the first few hours of school.... and this was with kindergarteners.
Another said all the problems in her school could be solved if they would just make a separate school for immigrants. She said they get here with no education about how to fit in, and perhaps little education to start with. She said they don’t speak the language, some have no concept of even how to use the bathroom and try to stand on the toilet seats, and most don’t want to become a part of our society. Many have no food at home. (she keeps a food closet for the kids) So you have multiple language/multiple moral value systems/multiple educational bases/ all thrown into one school and the kids who are trying to learn don’t have a chance.
And yet we have time to throw a little kid out of school for eating his pastry incorrectly.
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