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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 26 JUNE 28, 2013
Free Republic | June 28, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 06/28/2013 1:01:56 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; cilantro; coriander; food; gardening; hobby; mdf; neem; walkingonions
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To: Marcella
It's not the heat so much as the sun. A 50% shadecloth can help keep plants alive.

And sometimes, like 2011, I just lost everything. My worst year ever.

/johnny

121 posted on 06/29/2013 3:59:32 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
“And sometimes, like 2011, I just lost everything. My worst year ever.”

That’s when all my roses died. That year killed almost everything in Texas with 105-107 for so long and no rain even in the spring leading up to that. But, we’re talking food and not roses.

We have these high temps in Texas every year (leave out 2011 when there was no rain either and temps didn’t budge from those high numbers). So, how are your plants doing right now?

Let me ask this question: Is it light the plants need or is it the sun hitting them that they need? That is important to know.

122 posted on 06/29/2013 4:31:08 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: tillacum
Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds, Mansfield, MO.
We stated all our veggies from seed this year (except a jalapeno that I bought for $.99.
123 posted on 06/29/2013 4:32:09 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: Marcella
My plants are doing great, but I've expanded the garden to include a more shaded area, and selected plants that handle full sun well to leave in the sun drenched parts of the garden.

I have put up shade cloths a couple of days when I could see the plants suffering. That was for the squash.

Plants need light, some need direct sunlight, some do well with partial shade, some only do well in shade.

My tomatoes and peppers only get about 4 hours of direct sunlight a day, and that seems to be working well.

Ground temperature is also very important. That's why I have the heavy mulch, to protect from heat, and to retain water.

/johnny

124 posted on 06/29/2013 4:37:14 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Ground temperature is also very important.”

When I was studying fabric pots, one incentive to use them was they keep roots cooler. Another reason was, excess water flows through the bags so the plants don’t get water logged. The water will filter though both the sides and bottoms of the bags.

When I read instructions on seed envelopes, most of the time it says “direct sun” seven hours a day - something like that and tomato envelopes say that. So, you are not doing that - you are not “using” that much sun. I suppose it is your experience that has told you to limit sun and don’t go by the directions “exactly”. That part I don’t know but I will remember what you say.

I know now the sun is not necessarily a plant’s best friend.


125 posted on 06/29/2013 5:02:56 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella
Full sun is great advice for some locations. Texas ain't one of those locations. Packages are printed for wide locations, but we're in a niche area, and local conditions dictate how to arrange things.

/johnny

126 posted on 06/29/2013 5:10:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Packages are printed for wide locations, but we’re in a niche area, and local conditions dictate how to arrange things.”

Now, I know.


127 posted on 06/29/2013 5:12:29 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: tflabo
The Juliet tomato plant is producing pretty good and the Early Girl is nice and tall, lots of blooms but not many maters popping out so far.

When the plant is approximately 6 inches tall, trim off all the lower branches, leaving a crown of 3-5 healthy leaves. Dig a hole deep enough to bury the entire plant to the crown. Before you put the plant in the ground, drop in a handful of 3% rock phosphate and water well. The rock phosphate will force the plant to grow strong stems, and produce a lot of blooms & fruit. The portion of the plant buried in the ground will develop a root system, strengthening the plant.
I did that, and my Black Krim are 6ft tall with a lot of tomatoes. I'm just waiting for them to ripen.

128 posted on 06/29/2013 7:42:56 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: a.c.t.32

Try adding 3% rock phosphate to your soil.


129 posted on 06/29/2013 7:44:22 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: tillacum
The tomatoes are from the hoophouse, the cucumbers are grown over a piece of cattle panel with both ends stuck in the ground so it looks like an inverted "U" approximately 5ft high and 6ft wide. The cattle panel was real inexpensive, holds up the weight of cucumber and melon vines, and is real eassy to clean off at the end of the season.

I haven't checked soil temperatures. I have a pot filled with catnip that I use as a gauge. When the catnip starts to shrivel, I turn on the watering system for a couple hours until it begins to recover.

We're planning a keyhole garden also, but I want to cover mine with a dome-type structure (to keep the deer away). It may be awhile though. Other projects take precedence.

130 posted on 06/29/2013 8:02:03 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Sir_Ed
Does anyone know if it’s bad to overhead water when it’s 100 degrees?

I do it all the time.

131 posted on 06/29/2013 8:03:46 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Sarajevo

Whew, Austin, TX hit 108.


132 posted on 06/29/2013 8:05:45 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: bgill

That’s almost spittin’ distance. I was In Bandera today for a car show and a bar-b-que cook-off. It seemed like most of the people there were in the river cooling off.


133 posted on 06/29/2013 8:20:30 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Sarajevo

Hubby is out hooking up a water fountain for the birds. When I was hand watering the garden this evening, two lizards were enjoying the shower.

Speaking of hand watering, I’m hearing some towns are moving from Stage 2 water restrictions to Stage 3. I don’t know if it’s the heat or what but the electricity has flickered on and off the past 3 days. This isn’t good what with summer just beginning.


134 posted on 06/29/2013 8:23:51 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: bgill
San Antonio is heading into Stage 3 real quick. In my area (NW of the city) I've heard of wells drying up and people having to drill new wells. Pretty durn expensive now too!

A big issue I'm seeing is that the city puts residents on stage 2 & 3 restrictions, yet golf courses and other businesses still spray away.
I use drip watering and overhead watering in an enclosed environment to reduce evaporative losses.

135 posted on 06/29/2013 8:29:34 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: tillacum

Oh good! So I have another shot at it! Approximately when should I start sprouting things for my fall garden?


136 posted on 06/29/2013 10:59:30 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

They are sweet peppers. Taste about like the green, yellow, red, orange, lilac peppers.

There are minor differences. The yellow and orange ones taste sweeter to me than the red, lilac, and purple ones.

I grow them all. I have 45 sweet pepper plants growing in my garden now. Several of every color I can find.


137 posted on 06/30/2013 12:49:23 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: Sir_Ed

It’s always bad to overhead water vegetables. Drip is the only way to go.


138 posted on 06/30/2013 1:20:07 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: Marcella
In my experience, the plants least adversely affected by heat are peppers, beets and cucumbers. Given enough water, I can get tomatoes, beans, corn, melons, carrots, and onions to survive, but I can't get them to produce well, or at all, when it is 100F everyday, month after month.

"seems to me if I sprayed water on the plants in the heat/sun, they would boil to death."

Absolutely true. You need to drip irrigate.

139 posted on 06/30/2013 1:39:31 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: tdscpa

Do the purple peppers get very big ?
I’m wondering when to pick them.

I picked on the other day and it tasted sweet/mild, like their larger cousins...


140 posted on 06/30/2013 5:21:38 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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