Posted on 05/02/2013 6:04:40 AM PDT by Fennie
WASHINGTON - In the midst of the Cold War on several occasions, nuclear missiles at US Air Force bases were mysteriously shut down, according to US servicemen who said they witnessed the failure of the heavily guarded missile systems.
But they don't blame America's Cold War enemy, the Soviet Union; they say aliens from space did it.
"This was something Russia could have developed, but it turns out they didn't develop this and we don't have it either - to be able to shut down nuclear weapons with a beam of light," David Scott, a former sergeant in the US Air Force, told RIA Novosti at a conference in Washington on encounters with extraterrestrials.
(Excerpt) Read more at en.rian.ru ...
Yeah, but it didn’t bite me like the moose did.
For a perspective on interstellar travel, imagine for a moment that you could view the galaxy from a right angle to the rough disc of our spiral galaxy. Where is Sirius in relation to Sol and where will Sirius be ten years from 'now' in relation to Sol? Now ask yourself how people six thousand years ago understood the concept of precession. Add to those pieces of data that a photon cross the universe in a null-path, not leaving the present of when it was emitted.
Human conceptualization of what dimension Time is is, well, very primitive still. we have apretty good grasp on waht it means to move through spacetime, but we as yet have not conceptualize dimension Time in a like fashion to dimension space (the linear, planar, volumetric conceptualization of dimension Space). And yet we have lots of clues that dimension Time has variable expressions! General relativity gave us a huge clue that dimension Time is not some background static through which we travel.
What I'm aiming at is the notion that just as we think in terms of moving from point A to point B as a linear motion "in" dimension space, we need to grasp a better notion of what it means to be 'here' and 'there' as a linear 'now' which is but one expression of a more complex planar and volumetric dimension.
We actually have clues regarding this notion, with the Christophanies, with the disappearance of Jesus from the tomb, the sudden appearnaqce of Jesus in the locked and shuttered upper room, and even in the fifth chapter of Daniel.
The foruteenth chapter of John's Gospel has a very interesting exchange between Jesus and Philip. Jesus avoided explaining a 'tesseract' yet he described His realtionship to The Father using the conceptualization as best Philip might comprehend it.
Trust me, I got your point quite awhile ago. Repetition and expansion won’t change the counterpoints I raised. Did you read them?
bkmk
I read your post #120. Was there another to which you would like to direct my attention? I was not arguing with your ‘counterpoints’, which are not counter points as much as they are additional perspective on the issues.
A quantum computer is needed to calculate the relative displacement of space when traveling in time.
If you think we don’t/won’t have one, think again.
Think again? ... Um, isn’t there already a four cubit one, IIRC? I do not doubt humankind will figure out how to use quantum calculation. i firmly believe we will have live cell organ replicators (3D printers using living cells of various types). There Are already organs and structures being ‘printed’ using that technology. I also do not doubt that there are aspects of temporal/spatial reality which we have yet to even imagine we could exploit/explore for traversing spacetime with near zero passage of time. Photons already do it ... and they are nothing but a pinch of space, a grain of time, and energy. Can you tell me why there is inertia, even in deep space?
Doesn't anyone find the problem with this arrival profile of aliens?
Hahaha. It is abSURD.
I don't believe that there are any aliens within any realm of our travel possibility. But I think that God DID create other beings. Hard to think that this entire existence is JUST for us miserable hooman beans.
Since everything except God must have a where/when to exist, even Angels have some form of where/when. We humans have aspects of our existence which are in various where/when states.
Our body is in a where/when which ages and dies, dissolving into the elements from which it was composed. Our mind, will, and emotions--our soul of life which animates the body while connected thereto--is not existing solely in the same where/when as the body which dissolves. This, according to what God has given us to know from His instruction in the Bible.
BUT our soul does have some where/when of reality not the same as the where/when to which the body is limited, some temporal/spatial variabilities, variables which we have yet to even start to fathom because of our primitive conceptualization of dimension Time. I happen to believe that our Spirit, inherited from Adam into whom God 'breathed' the spirit, also has where/when variabilities which are not limited to those opf the soul where/when and the body where/when.
My question to the extra-terrestrials would be, "Do you have a spirit, or are you limited to just the where/when of your body and the where/when of your animating soul? My studies of the Bible over the past decades indicates to me that ONLY humankind, in all of God's Universe, is created with the tri-part body, soul, and spirit.
Jesus, God with us, chose this species, the humankind of His Creation, into which to take up physical, bodily existence. I believe He has used that body to move around in Time and in Space.
As per your question at the luncheon, the pinged to post may be of some assistance in answering more directly than earlier today.
Truly, Scripture makes various distinctions between the physical body and the spiritual body (where/when or autonomy of a being.)
To me, the physical body of Adam and his line becomes relevant first as a result of Adam and Eve's shame resulting in God’s covering them with coats made of skins:
Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them. – Genesis 3:21
And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. – Hebrews 9:22
More specifically, nephesh is the ordinary soul which all living creatures have (Genesis 1) and is returned to the earth upon death, e.g. plants, bacteria, insects, animals.
And neshama is the breath of God which Adam received in Genesis 2 whereby he became a living soul.
Further, according to the mystics, the ruach is the soul pivot whereby the man chooses to be Godly-minded (neshama) or earthly-minded (nephesh.) That choosing parallels Romans 8.
And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. – John 1:33
In that view, everything returns to the earth at death and new epiphenomenons begin at birth or conception.
But the Scripture speaks of creation being mindful:
Conversely then, the living souls which have ruach (choice) and/or neshama (breath of God) would "phase change" (if P.S. Wesson is right in the article linked below) and continue "in" the creation past the death of the physical body, i.e. autonomous where/when.
We review the idea, due to Einstein, Eddington, Hoyle and Ballard, that time is a subjective label, whose primary purpose is to order events, perhaps in a higher-dimensional universe. In this approach, all moments in time exist simultaneously, but they are ordered to create the illusion of an unfolding experience by some physical mechanism. This, in the language of relativity, may be connected to a hypersurface in a world that extends beyond spacetime. Death in such a scenario may be merely a phase change.
But despite all such speculation, we Christians being indwelt by ruach Elohim already exist "beyond" anything physical at all (including a phase change upon physical death):
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. - Romans 8:1-9
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? - I Corinthians 6:19
God's Name is I AM.
The book of Job, Chapter 38-42.
God flat-out tells us that we will never understand. How could we?
Indeed, we cannot say that particles or fields which have no measurable direct or indirect affects therefore do not exist. Likewise, we cannot presume to know the total number of, and types of, dimensions based on our ability to measure their direct or indirect affects.
That logic applies in our assurance that God's keeps His promises. Every. Single. One. For instance,
Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, [and] the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts [is] his name: If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, [then] the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD. - Jer 31:33-37
We do not need a logical reason for the blessed assurance that God keeps all of His promises and yet He provides that comfort.
As another example, God is Truth. When He says a thing, it is. It is because He says it. For instance,
In the same thought, neither time nor space are properties of the Creator of them. In Scripture, the word "light" is used to describe His glory. And the metaphor is perfect as quantum mechanics confirms, i.e. the photon travels a "null path" - which is to say for the photon as observer, no time elapses at all.
Sheepherders thousands of years ago - to whom the academics love to attribute authorship for ancient Scripture - would have had no concept of quantum mechanics.
Even now, as science learns more and more, the creation itself confirms the words of the Creator, e.g. “In the beginning, God created …” (Gen 1:1)
Truly, the most theological statement to ever come out of modern science is that there was a real beginning of space and time. (Jastrow)
God's Name is I AM.
Had no idea that Varo was "into" UFOs...
“The Varo Edition” is actually quite interesting, being an annotated versiom of Jessup’s book, made prior to Jessup being found dead in his car and being connected to the so-called “Allende letters”. The annotations are a mystery. The whole book was typed out and run through an office duplicator, in two colors. The manufacturer, Varo, was doing contract work for the military and the edition was for a closed circle of military readers.
The commenters (evidently three of them), claims knowledge of UFO technology and of what happened aboard the USS Eldridge, supposed to be a navy experiment with an undetectable ship.
Darn thing came into my hands in a way almost as mysterious as the original mystery - I’d ordered the plain book, which was readily available at the time, but what plonked down at my bookseller was this still almost non-existent item :).
Lately, a new thought has come to delight (haunt?) me: The "stuff" underlying absolutely everything in our universe, living and non-living, is itself fundamentally composed of just two things: Light and (willful) Intelligence. It's the Intelligence that explains the different forms....
I'm still mulling that one over!
Thank you ever so much for your splendid essay/Post!
I believe the Bible reinforces your notion of everything being made of light and intelligence. I would put it slightly differently however, as all is composed of light and information. The Word of God, the Command From God is information. Now, the task for you is to guess how that information is attached/fused to light. ;^) I believe the clues are spread throughout the Bible, Old and New Testament. My feeble effort to illustrate it is the use of my 'where/when' designation.
Like what?
Funny. I often say that the universe is made of hydrocarbons.
But, as you say, animated and illuminated by will, intelligence and light.
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