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‘FDR and the Jews,’ by Richard Breitman and Allan J. Lichtman
NY Times ^ | April 5, 2013 | DAVID OSHINSKY

Posted on 04/05/2013 6:46:56 PM PDT by iowamark

Franklin Roosevelt enjoyed the overwhelming support of American Jews during his presidency, and the reasons are clear. In his three-plus terms from 1933 to 1945, he led the war against Hitler, supported a Jewish homeland in Palestine...

Starting in the 1960s, a flood of books appeared with self-evident titles like “No Haven for the Oppressed” and “While Six Million Died.” But the most influential account by far was David S. Wyman’s “Abandonment of the Jews,” published in 1984. Wyman considered numerous parties responsible for America’s tepid response to the Holocaust, including a badly divided Jewish community, a nest of virulent anti-Semites in the State Department, and a distracted president largely indifferent to humanitarian concerns he felt were beyond his control, no matter how enormous the scope.

“FDR and the Jews,” by Richard Breitman and Allan J. Lichtman, history professors at American University, is the latest, and most thoughtful, entry into this scholarly minefield...

Early in 1945, following the Yalta conference with Churchill and Stalin, the president traveled to the Middle East, saying he’d most likely never “get over here again.” Roose­velt had always considered himself a master of persuasion, but his key meeting with the Saudi king Ibn Saud did not go well. Noting that Europe’s surviving Jews had suffered “indescribable horrors,” he assured the king that allowing them into Palestine would improve the land for Arabs as well as Jews. Ibn Saud was unmoved. Cooperation with Zionists was impossible, he replied; that door was closed. Returning to America, the exhausted president actually apologized to Rabbi Stephen Wise, a prominent Jewish leader, for failing “your cause.” Roose­velt died the following month at the Little White House in Warm Springs, Ga. — sadly aware, one suspects, of the unceasing bloodshed between Jews and Arabs that lay ahead.

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1 posted on 04/05/2013 6:46:56 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

This brings to mind”The Voyage of The Damned”!The Great Hero of The Left also put loyal Japanese-Americans into camps!!Would somebody onThe Left care to explain this to me???????????????????


2 posted on 04/05/2013 6:54:32 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: iowamark

FDR enjoyed the overwhelming support of communists...period!


3 posted on 04/05/2013 6:57:46 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: iowamark

I don’t know that the reasons are so clear.

In 1920 the Socialist Debs won 38% of the Jewish vote and the democrats won 19%. In 1928 the democrats won 72%, in 1932, Roosevelt won 82%, then 85%, 90%, and 90% again as president for life, Kennedy got 82%, Johnson 90%.

Clinton 80%, then 78%, Gore 79%, Kerry 76%, Obama 78%

It could be that they were just voting liberal.


4 posted on 04/05/2013 7:02:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: iowamark

Too bad William F. Buckley is gone:

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0308/tobin030508.php3

...as much as any other person, Bill Buckley cleared the way not only for a conservative movement where Jews would be welcomed, but that it was his leadership that set the stage for an American politics in which anti-Semitism was confined to the fever swamps of the far right and far left.

As conservative columnist George Will has written, without National Review, which Buckley started in 1955, much of what followed in American politics - including Barry Goldwater’s capture of the Republican nomination for president in 1964 and then the electoral victories of Ronald Reagan and the Republican takeover of Congress in 1994 - is unimaginable. American conservatism as we have known it, with all of its subsequent ups and downs, has its origins in the pages of that magazine in which its editor helped create a coherent movement out of what had previously been a loose array of cranks.

In order to give life to that movement, Buckley specifically chose to rid its ranks of people who espoused the sort of anti-Semitism that once was inescapable on the American right...


5 posted on 04/05/2013 7:33:59 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: iowamark

He also caused a ship carrying refugees from Hitler’s Europe to turn back and not land its Jewish passengers. They all subsequently were killed in concentration camps. OTOH the unions had some input to FDR on that as well.


6 posted on 04/05/2013 7:34:51 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: bandleader

From:
http://www.ushistory.org/us/51e.asp

"Succumbing to bad advice and popular opinion, President Roosevelt signed an executive order in February 1942 ordering the RELOCATION of all Americans of Japanese ancestry to CONCENTRATION CAMPS in the interior of the United States."

According to this , it wasn't really FDR's fault that he sent Japanese io internment caps. It was those who gave him, "bad advice."

This was taught for years in American History classes and probably still is.


7 posted on 04/05/2013 7:35:08 PM PDT by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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To: ansel12

Who cares what FDR or Hitler did 70 years ago. He had a bunch of Jews working for him in his command yet he was killing Jews too. Obama has a bunch of Jews working for Him too. What difference does it make to the conservative Jews on FR?


8 posted on 04/05/2013 7:48:22 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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SS St. Louis

9 posted on 04/06/2013 12:35:01 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: bandleader
The Great Hero of The Left also put loyal Japanese-Americans into camps!!

There was a very funny line in a recent National Review article about Philip Roth who wrote a historical fantasy, The Plot Against America. The writer says that Roth's novel made her think:

Wow, yeah. It certainly is a good thing FDR was in office, so that we didn't wind up with any internment camps in this country

Funny. True. And something most of the reviewers of the book apparently didn't notice at the time.

10 posted on 04/06/2013 12:52:05 PM PDT by x
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To: iowamark
Roose­velt had always considered himself a master of persuasion, but his key meeting with the Saudi king Ibn Saud did not go well. Noting that Europe’s surviving Jews had suffered “indescribable horrors,” he assured the king that allowing them into Palestine would improve the land for Arabs as well as Jews. Ibn Saud was unmoved. Cooperation with Zionists was impossible, he replied; that door was closed. Returning to America, the exhausted president actually apologized to Rabbi Stephen Wise, a prominent Jewish leader, for failing “your cause.”

The war was still going on at that time. Maybe the meeting was part of a bigger picture plan, but would Roosevelt's meeting with Ibn Saud actually have saved any Jews behind enemy lines even if it had been succesful?

11 posted on 04/06/2013 12:57:55 PM PDT by x
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To: B4Ranch
Who cares what FDR or Hitler did 70 years ago. He had a bunch of Jews working for him in his command yet he was killing Jews too.

I don't think Roosevelt was actually killing Jews, though he maybe could have done more to save some of them.

12 posted on 04/06/2013 12:58:56 PM PDT by x
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To: x

I was referring to Hitler killing the Jews.

If these people want to play the victim routine then they need to get up to date complaints. How about formulating a list of all the Jews in the Obama Administration? Whining about people who are already dead and gone is quite ineffective.


13 posted on 04/06/2013 3:57:55 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks iowamark.

Author: FDR failed to save more Jews during Holocaust; ‘vision of what America should look like’
Daily Caller | 1:01 AM 04/04/2013 | Jamie Weinstein
Posted on 04/05/2013 8:23:29 AM PDT by Olog-hai
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3004485/posts


14 posted on 04/06/2013 5:57:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: B4Ranch; SkyDancer; iowamark; bandleader; gorush; jjotto; Netz; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; ...
He had a bunch of Jews working for him in his command yet he was killing Jews too.

No, there were only a relatively few Jews at most in the upper echelons of the Roosevelt Administration. The most prominent was Henry Morganthau, his Treasury Secretary. Morganthau raised the question of Nazi persecution of European Jews with Roosevelt, but Roosevelt for the most part deferred to his decidedly antisemitic State Department on such issues, confident that they would largely be neglected.

Roosevelt secretly boasted, BTW, that as a prominent Harvard alum, he was influential in in establishing a severe quota system which worked to discriminate against Jews applying for admission to his alma mater. He seems to have grown up in an antisemitic milieu, which included his mother.

It turns out that Herbert Hoover, throughout his long life, had a much better record on Jewish issues than did Roosevelt.

15 posted on 04/07/2013 10:36:25 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

FDR did indeed have a fairly large number of Jews working for him, so much so the Jew-haters still refer to the “Jew Deal”.

Bernard Baruch was called the “Unofficial President”, and Jews like Ben Cohen, Felix Frankfurter, and Sam Rosenman were very close to FDR.


16 posted on 04/07/2013 10:53:54 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: iowamark
supported a Jewish homeland in Palestine...

Only AFTER 6 million lay dead, at least 750,000 thanks directly to his actions.

17 posted on 04/07/2013 10:56:53 AM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Meanwhile, people like Republican Congressman Hamilton Fish of New York (despite the name, not remotely Jewish!), had supported the establishment of a Jewish homeland in the Land of Israel long before WWII broke out. And Fish was no interventionist.


18 posted on 04/07/2013 11:03:46 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: justiceseeker93

It also turns out that Teddy Roosevelt had a much better record on civil rights than did any of his Democrat successors until Kennedy.


19 posted on 04/07/2013 12:26:09 PM PDT by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: justiceseeker93

Quite right. Morganthau kept after FDR regarding the Holocaust, who steadfastly refused to bomb the extermination camps. FDR also told a rabbi and a priest that the US was a Protestant nation, and that Jews and Catholics were here “by suffrance”. But hey, FDR did manage to open a second front against the Nazis in Europe merely nearly four years after the USSR was invaded and during which time the Wehrmacht was slowly ground down by the numerically superior Red Army. Oh, and before D-Day, launched a costly and destructive campaign in Italy, some of the toughest fighting of the war, at the insistence of Churchill, who wanted to avoid D-Day for as long as possible.


20 posted on 04/07/2013 1:39:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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