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1 posted on 03/23/2013 6:00:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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Earth is extremely rare. It's fortunate that we found it.
2 posted on 03/23/2013 6:03:25 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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We’re uniquely adapted to this planet but technology and adaptability could make close good enough.


3 posted on 03/23/2013 6:03:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BenLurkin; a fool in paradise
Rare Earth is dyin'!


4 posted on 03/23/2013 6:06:24 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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Quote from article: "We, quite simply, have no idea how life started. We don’t know where, how, when,.....

Maybe they don't know, but I sure do.

GOD created everything.

5 posted on 03/23/2013 6:07:28 PM PDT by Spunky
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LOL we’ve explored 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 of the galaxy and he says life is rare, lololol what a maroon.


6 posted on 03/23/2013 6:08:54 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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One thing that’s not rare lately is FR missing data on page loads...


7 posted on 03/23/2013 6:09:06 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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They’re landing all the time, dude!

Doesn’t he ever listen to Coast-to-Coast?


9 posted on 03/23/2013 6:11:21 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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Elementary, said the lanthanides.
“Not so fast!” said Scandium and Yttrium.

Speaking of Ytterby, more elemnts come from Ytterby than any other single location on earth.


13 posted on 03/23/2013 6:25:31 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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The Royal Society back in 1895 also stated that heavier than air machines were impossible. Yep.


14 posted on 03/23/2013 6:30:39 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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17 posted on 03/23/2013 6:36:58 PM PDT by redhead (NO GROUND TO THE DEVIL! Use Weaponized Prayer)
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18 posted on 03/23/2013 6:37:00 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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On this subject, for all FReepers, I would recommend a book that caused a bit of a stir in the conventional thinking among those who are interested in the Fermi Paradox (i.e., where's all the Life in the Milky Way?).

The book is Rare Earth. Highly recommended reading.

The gist? More fine-tuning was needed to create conditions for life on Earth than we had realized under the Drake Equation. Much more. As science progressed in the 60's through the 90's, we began to understand that the Star Trek way of thinking about life being common was just dead wrong.

Nope, the authors stay utterly neutral about God. Not mentioned on the book; they keep it to science only. Therefore, it should be readable by anyone. One of the authors was a geologist, IIRC.

Basic premise is that microbial life may be common enough Out There, but intelligent life? Probably not.

Book essentially leads you to a mild despair, with the realization that there may not be plentiful intelligent life out in the Milky Way...we could be alone, or cohabiting with only one or two races. It's not a book about science, I realized when I finished it.

It's a horror book.

It shook me up a bit.

I'd recommend it. I'd even link it, but I forgot the hypertext sandbox training I gave myself. Have to review it...later. ;)

22 posted on 03/23/2013 7:06:25 PM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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"I prefer my Earthlings rare..."

26 posted on 03/23/2013 7:17:25 PM PDT by mikrofon (Best way .. to serve Man.)
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The jury’s still very much out on the question if earth has “intelligent life” in any meaningful sense.


27 posted on 03/23/2013 7:19:04 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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Anyone who is aware of results in a branch of mathematics called Ramsey theory will be completely underwhelmed by arguments that purport the universe is so large and so old that there must be life elsewhere.

Ramsey theory deals precisely with the inevitability of ordered subsystems in sufficiently large arbitrary systems (thus including both genuinely random systems, and those constructed precisely to avoid the ordered subsystem specified). The reason this branch of mathematics (which seems from its subject matter to be purpose built to support such arguments) gives no comfort to such argumentation is the rate at which the size of the arbitrary system has to increase to make larger and larger specified ordered subsystems — or more and more rigidly ordered subsystems — provably inevitable. Proofs sometimes involve numbers so huge their binary expansion could not be inscribed on the observable universe with one bit per Planck volume.


28 posted on 03/23/2013 7:19:21 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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If life here was not delivered and is home grown the odds of whatever created that spark could be trillions to one.


29 posted on 03/23/2013 7:21:25 PM PDT by mowowie
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While I can not say anything for absolute certain, I would say that Earth is not the only place where life is. Life is common in the universe. Logic says so. We haven’t seen it because we don’t have the technology to, but the time for that is very close.

Hydrogen is the most common element in the universe, and oxygen is plentiful also, and so is carbon. Water is water here, so it will be the same everywhere hydrogen and oxygen exist together. Carbon and hydrogen will be hydrocarbons here and everywhere else as well. Thus, methane is found in our solar system, and it wold be absurd to think that it could not exist elsewhere. By extension, amino acids and DNA will exist everywhere in the universe that the chemical processes can occur. The ingredients exist everywhere, and all that is needed is a supportive environment.

Even with creationism, it is simple to imagine God creating a universe where the same laws apply uniformly everywhere. If it was not created then the laws will apply uniformly everywhere. The same matter exists everywhere, and the same laws apply everywhere, and the same energy exists everywhere, therefore, life exists everywhere. It is way simple.

Scientists should not be trying to prove whether life exists, it does. They should be showing us where. We may not find intelligent life right away, but organic life will be actually found very soon. They just need to look for chlorophyll.


31 posted on 03/23/2013 7:27:36 PM PDT by webheart (King of the Passive Voice)
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For life to exist on any planet, the main requirements are temperature range, and mass of the planet. All the other planets in our solar system are either too cold or too hot because of distance from the sun. Size matters because it must have the right size to keep gravitational force large enough to keep air from escaping.

Our solar system is part of the milky way galaxy. There are literally millions of suns in our milky way galaxy. On top of that there are millions of galaxies in our universe. Some scientists claim there are many more universes out there.

What it boils down to is this. We have no clue on the exact number of planets out there similar to earth. We do not have telescopes strong enough to detect every sun, much less every planet, in the universe. The distances are just so vast between solar systems and galaxies. The distances are measured in light years. Light travels 186,300 miles per second, so how many miles does it travel in a year? It is an unimaginable number = 186,300 x 60 x 60 x 24 x 365! I bet your calculator can’t even display the result. That is just ONE light year.

Now consider this... the closest galaxy to earth is the Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy and it is 25,000 light years from us! Even if we had a machine which can fly at the speed of light, it will require 25,000 years to reach the nearest galaxy!

My conclusion is that there are Gazillions of planets in the universe and life exists in at least 1% of those planets. But have no fear, they are just too far away to fear any invasion.


32 posted on 03/23/2013 7:33:53 PM PDT by entropy12 (The republic is doomed cuz people have figured out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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Until we can travel faster than light, or, we meet our maker, we’ll never know if we are all alone or not.


33 posted on 03/23/2013 7:37:23 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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It’s ironic that we human beings living here on earth who have developed senses such as sight, hearing, touch, and smell, and have developed concepts such as “life”, “time”, “space”, “thought”, and even “existence”, wonder if, by some remote coincidence (about equal to the percentage expressed in post #6, to the bajillionth power), there are other “beings” in the universe who actually share one or more human senses and notions in some equally remote way.

The vanity of human beings is priceless!


35 posted on 03/23/2013 7:50:36 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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