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Viruses With Immune System Found; Indicates They Are Living Creatures
Science World Report ^ | Feb 28, 2013 01:21 PM EST | Mark Hoffman

Posted on 03/01/2013 8:51:09 PM PST by Olog-hai

Astonishingly, a virus that exclusively attacks the cholera bacteria was caught having stolen the functional immune system of bacteria—and is even using it against its bacterial host. A study published this week in the journal Nature provides the first evidence that this type of virus, a bacteriophage (“phage” for short), can acquire a wholly functional and adaptive immune system, something that was thought to be a too complex task for the very basic and “dumb” virus.

The phage used the stolen immune system to disable—and thus defeat—the cholera bacteria’s defense system against phages. Therefore, the phage can kill the cholera bacteria and multiply to produce more phage offspring, which can then kill more cholera bacteria. The study has dramatic implications for phage therapy, which is the use of phages to treat bacterial diseases. Developing phage therapy is particularly important because some bacteria, called superbugs, are resistant to most or all current antibiotics.

“The study lends credence to the controversial idea that viruses are living creatures, and bolsters the possibility of using phage therapy to treat bacterial infections, especially those that are resistant to antibiotic treatment,” said Camilli, professor of Molecular Biology & Microbiology at Tufts University School of Medicine. …

(Excerpt) Read more at scienceworldreport.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: bacteria; bacteriophage; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; immunesystem; phage; virus
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1 posted on 03/01/2013 8:51:19 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

They’ll be voting Democrat before you know it.


2 posted on 03/01/2013 8:53:21 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Olog-hai; Pharmboy; AdmSmith; martin_fierro

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Olog-hai.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


3 posted on 03/01/2013 8:58:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Olog-hai

Oh boy...another way to design bio-weapons!


4 posted on 03/01/2013 9:02:52 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Olog-hai

Maybe one day we will find out that viruses and bacteria are the ‘intelligent’ creatures, and the rest of us are just food.


5 posted on 03/01/2013 9:03:52 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: smoothsailing
They’ll be voting Democrat before you know it.

Especially if their primitive immune systems make them immune to common sense, logic, patriotism, and God.

6 posted on 03/01/2013 9:17:41 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Olog-hai

Less alive than a sunflower, more alive than a brick - Stanley Prusiner


7 posted on 03/01/2013 9:17:49 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: UCANSEE2
We fat all creatures else to feed us
And we fat ourselves for maggots.
Your fat king and your lean beggar
Are but variable service.
Two dishes, but for one table.
That's the end.

- Hamlet ( from memory! )
8 posted on 03/01/2013 9:19:26 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: smoothsailing

If they don’t feed on the Dems first . . .


9 posted on 03/01/2013 9:19:35 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I knew that there was a controversy about whether viruses are life forms or not but if not living beings what the heck would they be?


10 posted on 03/01/2013 9:56:43 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Olog-hai

ALIENS.


11 posted on 03/01/2013 10:10:10 PM PST by Dryman (Define Natural Born Citizen)
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To: TigersEye

I remain in the camp that viruses aren’t alive. They don’t eat or metabolize at all, they don’t reproduce, and they do nothing if there aren’t other living things around for them to subvert. They can only trick other living things into making more copies of themselves. Being able to passively defeat an immune system changes nothing. To me, they aren’t living beings, they’re loophole-like pathological special cases of replication gone wrong.


12 posted on 03/01/2013 10:37:52 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Dryman

Aye. So saith Giorgio Tsoukalos.


13 posted on 03/01/2013 10:38:03 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: coloradan

The categories “living organism” and “not a living organism” do not exist in nature.

They are artificial constructs we create due to the overwhelming human compulsion to put things into categories as a way of mentally dealing with them.

IOW, the map (human representation) is not the territory (reality).

So whether a virus is a living organism or not is dependent entirely on the definition you choose to use for “living organism.”


14 posted on 03/01/2013 10:42:34 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

If I could rate posts, I’d give yours an A+.


15 posted on 03/01/2013 10:46:26 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: coloradan

Hmmm. Interesting way to look at it. There is no doubt they are very strange things. Yet they do mutate into new types don’t they? I am thinking of the new strains of flu viruses and their like.


16 posted on 03/01/2013 11:01:59 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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They’ll be able to vote Democrat, as long as you don’t call them a fetus. Because a fetus isn’t a life form. Puppies and viro-phages, sure. Humans, not so much.


17 posted on 03/02/2013 1:15:11 AM PST by JFoobar
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To: TigersEye

Yes, flu viruses mutate their protein coat, which (temporarily) defeats the immune response that is geared to a particular type of protein. But what is described in this article is a more significant alteration, picking up a whole new capability.


18 posted on 03/02/2013 6:02:00 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Sherman Logan

I don’t disagree with you at all, which is why I began my post “I remain in the camp” rather than “Viruses aren’t alive.” Then again, any category that can be spoken of is just a human construct too, nobody would be talking about anything if we weren’t here. Nevertheless, categories are useful constructs which is why we make them.

I presented reasons to reject viruses as being alive, with which others are free to argue.


19 posted on 03/02/2013 6:14:16 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan

Don’t they always tell us the flu shot can’t make us sick because it is a “dead” virus?


20 posted on 03/02/2013 6:15:32 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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