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Question: Should President Romney Pardon Treasonist Barack Hussein Obama II, a.k.a. Barry Soetoro ?
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| Oct 31, 2012
| Yosemitest
Posted on 10/31/2012 5:35:02 AM PDT by Yosemitest
Question: Should President Romney Pardon Treasonist Barack Hussein Obama II, a.k.a. Barry Soetoro ?
Oct 31, 2012
I say, "No ! He should NOT !"
Yes, I'm serious.
Article III, Section 3 of theU.S. Constitution states:Treason against the United States shall consist onlyin levying War against them,
or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
No Person shall be convicted of Treason unlesson the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act,
or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason,but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeitureexcept during the Life of the Person attainted.
According to Cornell University Law School, 18 USC § 2381 - Treason"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States,levies war against them
or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere,
is guilty of treason
and shall suffer death,
or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Obama, through Amb. Chris Stevens, WAS ARMING the enemy, thus giving them aid and comfort, not within the United States, but elsewhere, and thereby,
It's just that plain ... and just that simple !
Now, take a real long look at this picture.
Better yet, watch the video of the Arab-Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama II, (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro) bowing so deep that it looks like he's putting his head right into King Abdullah's right hand.
My question " Should President Mitt Romney Pardon Treasonist Barack Hussein Obama II, a.k.a. Barry Soetoro ? " demands some serious thought.
Most people would probably say," Yes, because the United States doesn't need to be drug through the ugliness of a Senate Trial exposing the 'Top Secret' details of Barack Obama's adhering to the United States' Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. not within the United States, but elsewhere. "
But I disagree. The only way this nation can cleanse itself of this evil, is the admit it, expose it, and punish it.
And a President Romney should take these thought-out actions against our nation just as serious.
Let's look at some of the facts.Obama Arranged Benghazi Trip That Resulted In Murder Of US AMB Chris Stevens
Arms Flow to Syria May Be Behind Benghazi Cover-Up states: " During the 2011 Libyan revolt against Muammar Qaddafi, reckless U.S. policy flung American forces and money into the conflict on the side of the rebels, who were known at the time to include Al Qaeda elements. Previously the number two official at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, Christopher Stevens was named as the official U.S. liaison to the Libyan opposition in March, 2011.
Stevens was tasked with helping to coordinate U.S. assistance to the rebels, whose top military commander, Abdelhakim Belhadj, was the leader of the Al Qaeda affiliate, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). That means that Stevens was authorized by the U.S. Department of State and the Obama administration to aid and abet individuals and groups that were, at a minimum, allied ideologically with Al Qaeda, the jihadist terrorist organization that attacked the homeland on the first 9/11, the one thats not supposed to exist anymore after the killing of its leader, Osama bin Laden, on May 2, 2011. "
Obama the arms broker to al-Qaeda states [this article is also well worth your time] : " Now we learn that Ambassador Chris Stevens’s mission in Benghazi on that fatal day was to organize the shipment of arms to the rebel militias in Syria.
And that means: the shipment of arms, by order of the President of the United States, to al-Qaeda,the terrorist organization which the President himself constantly declares to be the enemy of his country.
No wonder President Obama, Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the rest of the stoats and weasels have been lying their heads off and trying to put the blame for the whole hideous and tragic episode – for what amounts to an act of war – on somebody’s little video. Scraping the bottom of the excuses-barrel.
The evidence suggests that the Obama administration has not simply been engaging, legitimating, enriching and emboldening Islamists who have now taken over or are ascendant in much of the Middle East.
Starting in March 2011, when American diplomat Christopher Stevens was designated the liaison to the “opposition” in Libya, the Obama administration has been arming them, including jihadists like Abdelhakim Belhadj, the leader of the al Qaeda franchise known as the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group. "
SOURCES: SLAIN U.S. AMBASSADOR RECRUITED JIHADISTS
Egyptian officials say Stevens worked with Saudis against Assad
Was Syrian weapons shipment factor in ambassadors Benghazi visit? states: " Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar, which means "The Victory," was received in the Turkish port of Iskenderun -- 35 miles from the Syrian border -- on Sept. 6, just five days before Ambassador Chris Stevens, information management officer Sean Smith and former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed
On the night of Sept. 11, in what would become his last known public meeting, Stevens met with the Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin, and escorted him out of the consulate front gate one hour before the assault began at approximately 9:35 p.m. local time.
the timing and the meeting between the Turkish diplomat and Stevens was "unusual."
According to an initial Sept. 14 report by the Times of London, Al Entisar was carrying 400 tons of cargo.
The cargo reportedly included surface-to-air anti-aircraft missiles, RPG's and Russian-designed shoulder-launched missiles known as MANPADS.
It was reported there was a fight about the weapons and who got what "between the free Syrian Army and the Muslim Brotherhood."
'The point is that both of these weapons systems are extremely accurate and very simple to use,' Fox News military analyst Col. David Hunt explained. He said the passage of weapons from Libya to Syria would escalate the conflict. 'With a short amount of instruction, you've got somebody capable of taking down any, any aircraft. Anywhere in the world.'
"
Rebel Arms Flow Is Said to Benefit Jihadists in Syria by New York Times
Why Libya Cover-Up: Obama Was Arming Al Qaeda & Islamists
Libya's missing weapons being smuggled into Gaza
Israeli intelligence is increasingly concerned about the quantity of Libyan arms flowing into Gaza.
Clinton asked for more security in Benghazi, Obama said no
How U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked to Jihadist Rebels in Syria (And It Involves Weapons) [Article has many links.]
Ed Klein: Bill Clinton encouraged Hillary to resign in the wake of the Benghazi scandal
Explain this: Ambassador Chris Stevens killed due to lack of security Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett gets Secret Service
Libyan Officials Claim US Was Warned 3 DAYS BEFORE Deadly Benghazi Consulate Attack
More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments from CNN states: " Three days before the deadly assault on the United States consulate in Libya, a local security official says he met with American diplomats in the city and warned them about deteriorating security.
Jamal Mabrouk, a member of the February 17th Brigade, told CNN that he and a battalion commander had a meeting about the economy and security.
He said they told the diplomats that the security situation wasn't good for international business.
'The situation is frightening, it scares us,' Mabrouk said they told the U.S. officials. He did not say how they responded.
Mabrouk said it was not the first time he has warned foreigners about the worsening security situation in the face of the growing presence of armed jihadist groups in the Benghazi area. "
Guard at consulate in Libya says attack was coordinated
Egypt intelligence warns of attacks on Israel, US embassies
Blame Obama for Chris Stevens' murder
Backed by Barack Hussein Obama, Muslim Brotherhood gets ready to overthrow U.S.-ally King of Jordan
Obama Bypasses Congress, Gives $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood
ALDRICH: Hillary Clintons abominable national security record
History of incompetence and dangerous decisions
Obama not subject to charges of treason?
Benghazi: Symbol of Obama's Leadership
Obama Admits He Is A Muslim
So, let us remember.Muslims are well know for lying about their faith.MUSLIMS are allowed to LIE and deceive NON MUSLIMS, if it benefits or protects ISLAM. Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."
Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.
Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.
Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts"
Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"
Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
For a better understanding of the issue, read HISTORY of Mohammed ( spelled variously; Mahomet, Muhammed, Mehmet, etc. ). then watch William Federer explain it, from Jan. 25, 2012 at CC Chino Hills, CA. It's a MUST WATCH for everyone,Christians, Athiests and even Muslims!
As retired military myself, I've seen the damage of "keeping secrets" about bad leaders.
Obama is EVIL, pure and simple.
Please watch Glenn Beck with Trevor Loudon & his book "Barack Obama and the Enemies Within".
Then watch the 29 minute 13 seconds video Trevor Loudon- An Urgent (and chilling) Message for America.
Obama may be feigning "incompetence," thinking he's too sly, being a "wolf in sheep's clothing" since his mentoring was from Fabian Fascism..
Romney's an "Establishment Republican" and he will probably want to PARDON the TREASONIST Barackl Hussein Obama II.
But it's better for the country that Obama suffer the penalty, the strongest penalty for his actions, and his inaactions.
Let's look at the Presidential Oaths of Office.
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States,
and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Now who among us really believes Obama did any of that ?
To Obama, that was "Just words. Just speeches! "
Damn him ! Damn him to hell !
I'll finish this with asking you to read Watch the 18 minute 56 second documentary video "Absolutely Uncertain" at "theBLAZE.com" or on YouTube.com, narrated by Irina, the 23-year-old Jewish New Yorker and a former Obama supporter .
TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: absolutelyuncertain; benghazi; benghazicoverup; benghazigate; chrisstevens; fabian; irina; kingabdullah; mittromney; obama; pardon; treason
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To: servo1969
You're right on all the issues you mentioned.
And let's not forget:
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posted on
10/31/2012 1:42:04 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
To: allmendream
And your proof of MacLAME McCain's Treason IS ..... ?
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posted on
10/31/2012 1:45:17 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
To: arthurus
" Even criminalizing ACTUAL crimes is not good "
Huh ?
Do you think you could EXPLAIN THAT to the surviving family members ofChris Stevens, Glen Doherty, Sean Smith, and Tyrone S. Woods ?
Or .... could you EXPLAIN that to ANY military member or retiree?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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posted on
10/31/2012 1:56:54 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
If 0bama is guilty of treason for arming Libyan rebels, was not McCain for advancing the exact same policy?
Is it only treason when 0bama does it?
44
posted on
10/31/2012 2:07:02 PM PDT
by
allmendream
(Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
To: allmendream
45
posted on
10/31/2012 2:07:28 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
To: allmendream
" ... was not McCain for advancing arming Libyan rebels,"
I don't remember that.
Do you have a link?
P.S.
I can't stand the backstabber, McCain !
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posted on
10/31/2012 2:12:00 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
To: allmendream
And advocating policy without the power to implement it, is NOT the same as the pResident IMPLEMENTING policy WITHOUT the consent and approval of the Senate.
47
posted on
10/31/2012 2:19:06 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/06/in-the-senate-mccain-kerry-introduce-libya-resolution/ “The resolution authorizes force in Libya but specifies that the mission is limited in scope, with no U.S. ground troops. It grants President Obama authority for one year to advance U.S. national security interests as part of NATO’s efforts against Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi.”
McCain introduced the resolution alongside Kerry. Is this enough “consent and approval of the Senate” for your taste?
So is it only treason when 0bama does it?
Criminalizing policy differences with outgoing administrations is the domain of third world banana republics - and as I said before you went of half cocked - this wasn't even much of a policy difference.
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posted on
10/31/2012 2:29:17 PM PDT
by
allmendream
(Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
To: allmendream
If McCain worked to get consent and approval of the Senate with language which "specifies that the mission is limited in scope, with no U.S. ground troops", then THAT becomes Official U.S. Foreign Policy.
It changes things.
But it does NOT justify Barack Obama denying backup support and abandoning Chris Stevens, Glen Doherty, Sean Smith, and Tyrone S. Woods.
The ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF still committed TREASON and got Americans killed, because of politics.
And he's going to turn against Israel, and help his Muslim Brothers nuke Israel;.
49
posted on
10/31/2012 2:46:15 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
Nothing changed other than you became aware of something basic you should have been aware of before.
Not authorizing a rescue mission IN THIS INSTANCE was cowardly and a despicable lack of leadership - but it doesn't fit the definition of treason. Not even close.
Is it criminal? No. Otherwise no President who has men die under orders when a rescue could have conceivably helped them would be safe from such charges.
When I was in the Air Force it was explained that the loss of ten men rescuing a downed pilot was a justifiable cost, although eleven might be considered an unacceptable loss. But if they refuse to send in twenty men after they lose ten, are they guilty of murder for abandoning a downed pilot?
Now if you want to rant and rave without critical information (McCain's support for Libya and the Senate vote), instead of researching a little and making yourself aware of such critical information - go ahead with your bad self! But you aren't making yourself look rational or well informed by doing so.
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posted on
10/31/2012 2:57:12 PM PDT
by
allmendream
(Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
To: Grampa Dave; Yosemitest
I don't want Barry pardoned, I want him jailed.
That said, since it seems unlikely anyone in Congress will do anything, what if Romney did pardon him and thereby convict him by implication?
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posted on
10/31/2012 3:14:36 PM PDT
by
MileHi
( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
To: Yosemitest
If you want the next Democrat administration and Congress to throw all the Republicans in jail then go ahead, put the kenyan in prison for his crimes and your sense of righteousness. It will begin an unending and enormous tit for tat that will end any aspect of liberty and constitutionalism that yet remains because a ruling party must be just that, a ruling party and such do not relinquish power just because of some election. A ruling party will have to keep itself in power lest its members go to prison or get hung.
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posted on
10/31/2012 6:13:34 PM PDT
by
arthurus
(Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
To: arthurus
Wow
Where did that come from?
Any house or senate member, or member of the exec branch, that breaks the law, needs to be prosecuted, regardless of political party affiliation, any one.
We do not have a ruling party, we have representatives, damn it.
It has to start somewhere. This forgiving the previous a holes is bull. Do the crime, do the time.
Reps need to be afraid of we the people, not the other political party.
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posted on
10/31/2012 6:36:39 PM PDT
by
going hot
(Happiness is a momma deuce)
To: allmendream
I consider John McCain a Democrat.
I can't think of one good thing, he's done for Conservatives.
But that being said, he DID bring Sarah Palin to the forefront.
Now as far as
Barack Hussein Obama II,
(a.k.a. Barry Soetoro) committing TREASON, it couldn't be more clear that He's guilty.
If, as you say, "nothing changed" and Congressionally approved policy doesn't matter,
then ARMING the ENEMIES of the United States during a time of WAR, "the War on Terrorists", is still TREASON;
and funding with BILLIONS of U.S. Dollars, the enemies of the United States and our allies, is still TREASON;
and, as I read somewhere, "furnishing enemies with arms, troops, transportation, shelter, or CLASSIFIED INFORMATION
is still TREASON.
Now why is it that Obama says one thing , yet does another?
He's not that stupid. He intentionally set up his actions so that the exact opposite of what he SAYS he trying to do, happens.
I say again, Obama's arming our enemies, the Muslim terrorist, and he's offending our allies, every chance he gets.
Just the other day, Obama said that "our allies, China and Russia ...". Since WHEN did China and Russia become our allies ?
Listen, you're not the only one here with military time.
I sat on my butt, looked out windows, and ran my mouth for over 26 years in the USAF, and then continued doing the same thing for 5 years with the FAA.
I've met some pretty good people, and some really special, historical Aces, too.
They'd all tell you the same thing,
"Obama's a TRAITOR, plain and simple, and needs to be made an example of, in order to keep evil away for among us."http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2922499/posts?page=24#24br
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posted on
10/31/2012 7:33:57 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
To: allmendream
I consider John McCain a Democrat.
I can't think of one good thing, he's done for Conservatives.
But that being said, he DID bring Sarah Palin to the forefront.
Now as far as
Barack Hussein Obama II,
(a.k.a. Barry Soetoro) committing TREASON, it couldn't be more clear that He's guilty.
If, as you say, "nothing changed" and Congressionally approved policy doesn't matter,
then ARMING the ENEMIES of the United States during a time of WAR, "the War on Terrorists", is still TREASON;
and funding with BILLIONS of U.S. Dollars, the enemies of the United States and our allies, is still TREASON;
and, as I read somewhere, "furnishing enemies with arms, troops, transportation, shelter, or CLASSIFIED INFORMATION
is still TREASON.
Now why is it that Obama says one thing , yet does another?
He's not that stupid. He intentionally set up his actions so that the exact opposite of what he SAYS he trying to do, happens.
I say again, Obama's arming our enemies, the Muslim terrorist, and he's offending our allies, every chance he gets.
Just the other day, Obama said that "our allies, China and Russia ...". Since WHEN did China and Russia become our allies ?
Listen, you're not the only one here with military time.
I sat on my butt, looked out windows, and ran my mouth for over 26 years in the USAF, and then continued doing the same thing for 5 years with the FAA.
I've met some pretty good people, and some really special, historical Aces, too.
They'd all tell you the same thing,
"Obama's a TRAITOR, plain and simple, and needs to be made an example of, in order to keep evil away for among us."
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posted on
10/31/2012 7:35:05 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest; butterdezillion; All
Excellent thread, thanks! Bookmarked.
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posted on
10/31/2012 7:44:56 PM PDT
by
Graewoulf
((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
To: Yosemitest
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posted on
10/31/2012 7:46:38 PM PDT
by
1035rep
To: arthurus
Obama needs to be fined the maximum fine, stripped of any financial support for him, his wife and his children, sentenced to 5 years in prison at Ft. Leavenworth, Kansas, and THEN executed at a TRAITOR, on public television.
THAT is how you put EVIL ... FROM AMONG YOU.
Anyone that assist TREASONOUS Obama or supports him, is also guilty in
"principal". As stated on page 2 of the article published January 25, 1861,
Treason Against the United States :
"It is well known," says FOSTER, " that in the language of the law there are no accessories in high treason -- all are principals.
Every instance of incitement, aid, or protection, which in case of felony will render a man an accessory before or after the fact, in the case of high treason, whether it be treason at common law or by statute, will make him a principal in treason."
"The propriety of investing the National Government." says Mr. Justice STORY, in his Commentaries on the Constitution, "with authority to punish the crime of treason against the United States,
could never become a question with any persons who deemed the National Government worthy of creation or preservation.
If the power had not been expressly granted, it must have been implied, unless all the powers of the National Government might be put at defiance and prostrated with impunity.
Two motives probably concurred in introducing it as an express power.One was, not to leave it open to implicationwhether it was to be exclusively punished with death, according to the known rule of the common law, and with the barbarous accompaniments pointed out by it -- but to confide the punishment to the discretion of Congress.
The other was, to impose some limitation upon the nature and extent of the punishment,so that it should not work corruption of blood or forfeiture beyond the life of the offender."
Treason has ever been deemed the highest crime which can be committed in civil society;since its aim is an overthrow of the Government and a public resistance by force of its just powers,
its tendency is to create universal danger and alarm,and on this account it has often been visited with the deepest public resentment.
Hence, by the common law, the the punishment of high treason was accompanied by all the refinements in cruelty which were oftentimes literally and studiously executed.
But under the Constitution of the United States the power of punishing the crime of treason against the United States is exclusive in Congress;and the trial of the offence belongs exclusively to the Federal tribunals.
A State cannot take cognizance or punish the offence, whatever it may do in relation to the offence of treason committed exclusively against itself.
So anyone who assisted or supported Obama in his TREASON, is guilty, also, of TREASON Against the United States.
Anyone who has any time in the military has been well briefed on the legal headache of trying to figure out whether an order is a "LAWFUL ORDER" or not,
and the rock and the hard spot you're between when you follow an UNLAWFUL ORDER, or FAIL to follow a LAWFUL ORDER.
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posted on
10/31/2012 8:43:33 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
To: 1035rep
That great, but I want to see chains on their legs, or individual chains attached to a large ball.
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posted on
10/31/2012 8:45:46 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
To: Graewoulf
My pleasure, but you wouldn't believe how much time in research went into putting this thread together, and editing and formating time.
But I'm having fun, and the topic is real.
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posted on
10/31/2012 8:48:39 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
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