Posted on 10/13/2012 6:43:03 PM PDT by Jaguarmike
That same poll shows Romney up by five among independents. And yet this poll has a D+4 sample. That might be a little high, but it's not as outrageous as some of the others.
So how is this possible? Because to me, the numbers don't add up.
Does this have something to do with the early Ohio voting that shows Obama ahead 2-1? Yet, I've also read that Romney leads by five or six among likely voters.
And how does all this jibe with the early voting turnout numbers we've seen on this board = that show a depressed Dem turnout?
Any answers that could be given would be appreciated. I'll just state that if Romney leads with independents, I think he'll win.
I'm confused on this
Ford got 48.02% of the vote; Hoover got 39.65% of the vote.
Honestly, with Kasich as gov being a staunch conservative and Obummer’s war on coal, I don’t see how Obozo wins OH...
Maybe delusional but I just don’t see it.
Only way I see is with massive voter fraud. Esp. with the early voting and absentee ballots.
Close friend who is college prof has studied PPP polls for years; and told me to subtract 3 from the Dem and add 3 for the GOP candidate — quite consistent.
So the real number today from PPP is 49 Romney and 48 Bam-Bam.
Ohio is still very close.
NC is firm Romney, FL likely Romney, VA lean Romney.
yup, sounds right to me too
Starting to believe that there is no realistic path to either candidate’s victory without OH
The VP debate was a big win for Romney and here is why
The talking points have been
Cutting M1 tank production in Ohio
Lying about Libya
Biden acting like a buffoon
And, of course, RCP wastes NO time in putting up the bogus PPP poll in OH, and the bogus BRC poll in AZ.
The Obama camp claims all the money they have spent in Ohio, and all the benefits they reaped from the auto bailout make Ohio “sticky”.
Apparently that is supposed to mean that no matter what movement towards Romney we might see in other states, Obama’s numbers in Ohio won’t budge an inch.
I find that theory extremely hard to believe, but PPP’s numbers seem to support it. I am hopeful another, more reputable company, releases their poll numbers for the state very soon and blows it out of the water.
Bottom line for me is that until Romney starts registering some solid leads in the Buckeye state, I will have an uneasy feeling heading into election day.
Who is Adrian Gray?
“Ohio is still very close.”
Which makes it very curious that the kenyan is taking a four day break away from the campaign trail to do his debate homework. Barry is ceding the spotlight at a critical time to R&R in places like OH. Unbelievable!
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-leads-51-46-in-ohio.html#more
PPP is saying Obama is winning the early vote by over 3-1 (76-24). It would appear then, that Romney is winning the late vote by something like 53-47.
The story gives no details about methodology so there’s no way to know how they came up with 76-24 for Obama. You would think a result like that would raise their eyebrows.
Bush campaign insider who had access to all internal info and compares it to today. Very interesting twitter feed.
Also, another note on that PPP poll. It has 1 out of 9 registered Republicans choosing for Obama and less than half that rate of Dems choosing for Romney. In 2008 McCain won more Dems than Obama won Repubs, making this poll a bunch of malarkey.
The PPP poll has 1 out of 9 registered Republicans choosing for Obama and less than half that rate of Dems choosing for Romney. In 2008 McCain won more Dems than Obama won Repubs, making this poll a bunch of malarkey.
PPP = Push Pander Poll......
Keep in mind that Barack Obama actually received 30,000 fewer votes in Ohio than John Kerry!
The reason Obama won the state is McCain received 350,000 fewer votes than George Bush.
Republicans just have to turn out to win—hence, the repeated attempts to discourage Romney voters in Ohio by methods such as this poll.
It really blows my mind that a state that elections Walker in Wisc or Kasich in Ohio would vote for Obama for Pres. I realize you get more voters in a Presidential year, but still....
Ignoring anything he said (as much was lies) the problem with Obama in the first debate was his demeanor. He won’t have the (exact) same problem in this debate as it is a different format. The times I’ve seen video of him on the trail, he seems most animated when he is being nasty and sarcastic. He he tries that, he’ll look AWFUL to ordinary people.
Evidently they only called people on Obamaphones.
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