Posted on 09/16/2012 11:52:44 AM PDT by fabian
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Haven't I told you a million times not to exaggerate???
Indeed, that essentially is what Masters is doing.
“For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles. “ (2 Corinthians 11:2-5)
The church doesn’t teach the truth about why Christ died on the cross.”(Tape 1, “The Cross of Christ,”)
“Christ gave us the perfect example by suffering the physical stress without resenting torment—earning life eternal.” (Secret of Life, p. 74.)
If a charismatic Christian does not smoke or drink, it is only because he does not need to, being high on what he thinks of as his Jesus. (No One Has to Die, p. 75)
It is the wordless Truth Who will save you from the evil you see. ( How to Control Your Emotions, p.98)
The whole process of growing is not from words but from realizing and then you can throw your Bible in the garbage can and there’s no sin in that. (tape, “The Mystery of Golgotha”)
Words should never teach you. (How to Control Your Emotions, p. 305)
Masters asserts that the death of Christ was literally “a divine comedy or trap or trick,” “to cause the devil to transgress the law” by killing a man he didn’t legally own (Jesus). (http://www.theworldviewcenter.org/encyclopedia_foundationforhumanunderstanding.html)
That would depend on whose words we're talking about...
Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart
Ephesians 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word
Maybe I'm misunderstanding Master's meaning here but you have to wonder at a statement such as "...and then you can throw your Bible in the garbage can and theres no sin in that". Especially considering he has (presumably)a large audience which no doubt contains many who don't 'get it' like he thinks he does.
Ephesians 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God
I don't care who you are,you will not win any real battles if you throw your ONLY weapon in the bin!
Now wait a minute...that is a poor answer. Jesus knew there were be omissions and mistranslations..he sent the comforter to be the ultimate answer for us, not a written book.
And Jesus made sure to speak of the main principles that we needed in order to come into the kingdom...mercy, forgiveness, faith....made sure! Yet no parables about he being God and that we could never not sin even when we were reborn...so fret not. Not one single time! Again, directly from him never! Fact.
Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart”
You do not understand what is meant...it is the spirit really...there are not good translations in our bible. Clearly here and many other places, as in Genesis, it is not the word, literal word...it is the spirit. Obviously that is meant, as when the creation is happening they are not there with an open book looking at words. This is many Christians problem, they look at words rather than the holy spirit that is the SOURCE of expression of those words.
I hear this a lot fabian.Everybody's an expert on what plagues christianity.So many moan and groan and whinge about how everybody doesn't get it.
I believe we are in the very last days of this age and because the enemy knows his time is short he is putting a lot of effort into suppressing believers realization of just exactly what they hold in their hands when they open a Bible.If these are the times I think they are then folks who know those 'words' such as "behold,I tell you before it come,so then when it comes ye may believe" are going to see His words coming to pass before their very eyes.They will take up the Sword.They will begin to practically glow in the dark and they will slash,hack,burn and lay utter waste to anything that exhalts itself above His kingdom.They wont have the time or inclination to worry about worldly cares and controlling their emotions.What lies ahead of christianity is a future so blindingly bright that these worldly cares will vanish like a fart in a hurricane.
FWIW
yes...but the apostasy warned about is being propagated by these types of people watering down the message and judging a very effective silent Be Still prayer exercise. What a shame...
So what, exactly, is the gospel you follow, you believe? Where might I find it?
You guys are like the Jews needing a doctrine to follow. Jesus said my burden is light, and that is all about forgiveness...of our sins as we forgive others. I posted this thread so people who are missing it have a simple silent Be Still exercise that will greatly bless them. Very very effective for many people and something the church establishment has missed altogether.
Then why did Jesus Christ die? Just a question..
The lord’s prayer and some of the parables demonstrate that we need to forgive in order to be forgiven. Anything else will not please God....forgive us as we forgive. Of course we can be reborn upon a flash like Paul, but then we must continue to be patient with all trials.
Then I must ask you the question again: Why did Jesus Christ die?
He was the payment for all sins...and the critical perfect example of love and patience which we must also employ. His success even during extreme torture, enables us to also have the love to endure. Without patient endurance, there is no salvation....for the most part. There was the thief on the cross who received it right then and there, but we must not depend on that at the end of our lives in order to be in the Kingdom.
There is a scripture that says basically ...become new by the renewal of your mind from within..that along with the Be Still and know that I am God passage...is EXACTLY what Roy Masters teaches with the rediscovered be still exercise. Jesus told his disciples to sit and watch, do not sleep, in the garden, lest evil overtake them. That is all the Be Still is...watching the mind so that we become detached from the evil within so we can have the power of the holy spirit activate our lives. Very very simple silent prayer.
" Patient endurance"? You believe that in the end, that is what will save us?
"And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him: But for ous also, to whom it shalll be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus Christ our Lord from the dead: Who was delivered for OUR OFFENSES, and was raised again for OUR JUSTIFICATION. THerefore BEING JUSIFIED BY FAITH, we HAVE PEACE WITH GOD THROUGH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST"..Rom.4:21-Rom. 5:1.
A person can "patiently endure" all they desire. But without accepting the sacrifice of Christ's FINISHED WORK on our behalf for our salvation, we are at enmity with God and enemies of the cross. No matter HOW "patient", "forgiving", or "loving" we strive to be. We can be assured we have peace with God right now. Not because of what we do, or do not do, but because of what Christ did FOR US.
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You are partially correct...but it also says through patience possess ye your souls...and those who endure to the end shall be saved. These are not things that we do of our own but rather things like anger and irritation...that we allow to pass. More affirmative action salvation from you!
You been talkin' to the MORMONs?
Aooga!
Aooga!!
NONE????
Says which AUTHORITY?
You have it about 92.85% right!!
yes...but the apostasy warned about is being propagated by these types of people watering down the message and PUSHING a very SINISTER silent Be Still prayer exercise
Romans 15:4
. For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
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