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Penn Sate - vanity

Posted on 07/13/2012 12:55:16 PM PDT by PA BOOKENDS

I have to say, I’m disappointed and a little concerned by the reaction of some of my freeper friends to the Sandusky / Penn State scandal. Full disclosure: I graduated from PSU in 1970. Am not a member of the Alumni Association, have been back for, maybe, 5 games since 1970. Very much on the periphery of all things Penn State.

For the class of ‘70, the JoPa phenomenon (“JoPa” hadn’t even been coined, yet.) hadn’t materialized. Nevertheless, living in Pennsylvania, one could hardly be oblivious to the success of the football team or Paterno’s philosophy. We were happy to see someone who was not only successful, but successful with honor and class.

And this is what brings me to this vanity. So many of you seem to resent that very notion. You apparently held so much animus toward Paterno BEFORE ANY OF THIS EVER CAME OUT, that the very second it hit the fan you couldn’t wait to jump on the down-with-Joe bandwagon. Some of you exhibit so much glee at Joe’s downfall that you come very close to behaving as you accuse him – a willingness to throw a few boys under the bus if it can bring down JoPa & Penn State. Why do you take such joy in seeing a man’s lifework – GOOD work - destroyed?

That Joe couldn’t, perhaps, live up to the ideals he espoused doesn’t make the message any less worthwhile nor does it repudiate the good that he did do. In every sense, his life is the classic story of a Greek tragedy – something the Brown English major would understand!

And to those of you who are so cock-sure of how you would react in any given situation, it is with trepidation that I say: I hope you get the chance to find out.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: chat; childabuse; gaystapo; homofascists; homosexualagenda; notnews; paterno; pederast; pedophiles; pennstate; psu; sandusky; sodomhusseinobama; sodomy; vanity; zot
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

I also think “cock-sure” isn’t a helpful term in this case.


81 posted on 07/13/2012 2:29:19 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch ( if you love, you will not condemn, and if you condemn, you cannot love)
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To: re_nortex

Barry Switzer has more class in his little pinky than Paterno, ok so he likes to say “Hell” and “Damn” a lot.


82 posted on 07/13/2012 2:31:27 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: PA BOOKENDS
And to those of you who are so cock-sure of how you would react in any given situation, it is with trepidation that I say: I hope you get the chance to find out.

Based on your treatise and this quote, I wonder if your moral compass isn't quite pointed North....

83 posted on 07/13/2012 2:32:24 PM PDT by Gamecock (The Gospel is only good news when we understand the bad news. —R.C. Sproul)
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To: mrsloungitude
They were obsessed defenders.

That is typical troll behavior. They sign up just after something like this breaks, make a few replies and start threads defending the action.

84 posted on 07/13/2012 2:51:17 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: cripplecreek
Nope, that was well after Magic graduated. By all accounts it would have been out of character anyway. I went to OSU and was in one of the "jock" dorms my freshman year so I do know about the "special" status star athletes have at a big program school.

But if any of them had been known serial child rapists I find it hard to believe it would have been allowed to continue and for years on end. I once had very deep respect for Joe Paterno and the PSU football program. The disgust with Sandusky is one thing but how everybody at PSU and in State College who knew what was happening conducted themselves (and continue to if this vanity post is any indication) is appalling.

85 posted on 07/13/2012 3:05:31 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: PA BOOKENDS

I am a school nurse in TX and in TX and I believe in most states it is a state law for those who are working in an enviorment with children to report abuse.....personally, I don’t need a law to tell me that, I would do that on my own


86 posted on 07/13/2012 3:07:36 PM PDT by Kimmers (Fair isn't everybody getting the same thing, fair is getting what you need to be successful)
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To: sibb1213
Could Couldn't care less if they win or lose every game.
87 posted on 07/13/2012 3:20:14 PM PDT by Isabel C.
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To: PA BOOKENDS
How we treat those smaller, weaker, younger, much older than ourselves (including animals)reveals exactly who we are.
88 posted on 07/13/2012 3:41:52 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: dfwgator

And make sure that PSU Professor Michael Mann doesn’t escape the campus before the nuke ignites...


89 posted on 07/13/2012 3:44:23 PM PDT by 103198
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To: PA BOOKENDS; 50mm; darkwing104; Arrowhead1952; Darksheare; TheOldLady; Lady Jag; Chode; shibumi; ...

90 posted on 07/13/2012 3:52:39 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: katana

Nope. Johnson and his Indianan rival, Larry Bird, graduated in 1979.


91 posted on 07/13/2012 4:01:57 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: PA BOOKENDS
I barely knew who Joe Paterno was before this scandal. But even before Paterno's personal involvement became clear I noticed something about his fans. They practically worshipped him. And even though he may have done some good things, the degree of admiration seemed out of all proportion. I noticed people making him out to be one of the greatest human beings who ever lived. He was a football coach and mainly influenced the world of football and Penn State University. That's it. This is like one of those situations where a charismatic leader just hypnotizes people and when his faults start becoming clear they can't accept it.

Sometimes people do good things and terrible things.

92 posted on 07/13/2012 4:04:38 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: dfwgator

The same thing occured to me. We were talking about this in the office yesterday.


93 posted on 07/13/2012 4:18:02 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: lormand
I hate all athletic programs in all colleges. I think colleges should focus on academics, but that is probably crazy talk in the eyes of the willfully blind. This is a case where the chickens came home to roost. Athletic programs have forever trumped a good education for the 'student' athletes, but now Athletic programs trump any crime committed by successful coaches and their staff.

Absolutely agree.

For my money, I say Penn State (and Syracuse) are probably the tip of the iceberg of what goes on in these "programs." Maybe it's not all pedophilia, but there's no doubt in my mind that all sorts of criminal and immoral activity is given a free pass for the "glory of the athlete." Like anything else -- follow the money.

94 posted on 07/13/2012 4:31:58 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: Old Sarge

IBTZ or IATZ..... Doesn’t matter as long as this evil, pervert loving troll is gone.


95 posted on 07/13/2012 5:09:38 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (I'll take over the Mormon over the Moron any day!)
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To: PA BOOKENDS

I can’t imagine what it was like living with this flase reputation of honor like Paterno, while all the time greasing the skids to a homosexual boy rapist to rape boys. How dishonorable can a coach of young men be than to abet a boy rapist to carry on his evil of destroying boys?

It is similar to Cardnal Law playing the part of representing Christ while playing the part of madam by giving access to all those homo pedophiles raping little boys in church.

You can not get any more low down and sleazy and evil than this. Some people don’t understand the depth of suffering and destruction that comes to a boy who has been raped by a manipulative homo. This ignorace does not excuse the crime.


96 posted on 07/13/2012 5:26:59 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: PA BOOKENDS
PA BOOKENDS

This account has been banned or suspended.


Okay


97 posted on 07/13/2012 6:43:09 PM PDT by Gamecock (The Gospel is only good news when we understand the bad news. —R.C. Sproul)
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To: Arrowhead1952
I enjoy watching football, but it is just a game. I agree that colleges have gotten carried away with their football programs. It is definitely taken too seriously.
98 posted on 07/13/2012 6:52:58 PM PDT by mrsloungitude ( USMC Mom)
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To: mrsloungitude

yeah for the ZOT


99 posted on 07/13/2012 6:56:11 PM PDT by mrsloungitude ( USMC Mom)
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To: PA BOOKENDS
My wife and I happened to have dinner tonight with another couple; he was a Penn State grad (played varsity baseball for them) and was deeply ashamed of his school and JoPa. If he wasn't I probably would have left the table. Consider that I am leaving the table that you're seated at.

Your reality testing is dreadful...consider if your son was butt-raped by that pervert and Joe covered up for him for 14 years. Does that bring it home?

100 posted on 07/13/2012 6:59:46 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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