Posted on 06/21/2012 10:45:05 AM PDT by servo1969
Answering the age old question, Young Independent Filmmakers Jesse Budd and Patrick Romero set out to simply prove a point.
Can men and women really be friends?
NO. Because -
Liking a woman enough to be friends with her is, generally speaking, HIGHER on a man's relationship scale than wanting to have sex with her. Eg. - Men will have sex with a woman they have absolutely no interest in talking to or spending time with. Therefore, if a man likes a woman enough to be friends with her, BY DEFAULT, he already likes her enough to want to have sex with her. That's how men work. If he could, he would.
(Unless he is gay. Which makes him not a man in this case because he doesn't want to have sex with ANY woman.)
Men and women can be just friends, but in a very limited sense.
I am married. Most of my male friends are my husband’s friends and therefore mine by extension. I never spend time with them unless hubby is present. I might run into them while doing errands, and we briefly chat. Our relationship is warm and friendly but I do not call them, ask them to hang out with me, ask them to go shopping, etc.
Or I have some male friends but I only see them in a group context.
A woman cannot be friends with men like she can be friends with women. End of story. I like that this video really exposes that.
Spot on, but it was covered well in When Harry Met Sally.
It is why my wife and I have an agreement that I will never have one-on-one lunches or coffee with other women.
It can start very innocently, even if you dearly love your wife.
I think we should ask Laz.
The guy with the sandwich is the authority in the video.
Bump for truth.
In fact, if any of you women have male friends, I can guarantee that 99% of them would want to have sex with you ASAP. A guy cannot have a cordial friendly relationship with a woman for any length of time without at least fantasizing about getting in her pants, and as time goes on, seriously wanting to.
Just can’t happen.
No, men and women can’t be friends, and it is why under most circumstances like weddings, funerals, birthdays, holidays, special events, generally the men hang with the guys talking sports, cars, guns, stocks and boning women, and the women hang with other women talking about money, bills, house projects, money, school, women they hate, women they hate even more, money, problems with their mother, money.
Actually I have no clue what women talk about when they are together, but you get my dorifto.
Oh I know all about this and how it can start..and yes I was the scumbag (but was not all at fault she helped)...but I learned from it.
.Now that I have a gf I won't get in that situation again...no more close female friends even going out to lunch as you said.
“There’s ‘this’ and then there’s ‘that’.” - Jerry and Elaine
You must have gotten that % from an economist at the Bureau of Labor Statistics...it requires an upward revision.
Last time my wife and I had an argument, she got exasperated and blurted out, "all men care about is money and sex!"
I calmly replied, "so what's your point?"
One place I worked was all male engineers and one female. the lady engineer was not some ravishing beauty, but attractive enough that most of the guys hit on her hoping to score. When you have a dozen guys and one woman, her value soars and she know it. That’s just human nature.
Our male consultant was seen hanging with her constantly and everyone was convinved they were dating. Not me. I said, “they aren’t dating, they are girlfriends”.
Sure enough he turned out to be homosexual and nobody could understand how I knew. To me, it was just completely obvious. All you had to do was talk relationships. I would say I need a girl and he would say “partner”. The words girl or babe or boobs or any other female reference would never leave his lips. It only took me one such conversation to figure he was a homosexual.
It is a simple, foolproof test to find out if someone is homosexual. Just ask about a past girlfriend or past relationship, and a homosexual guy can’t use the term girl or woman.
Actually you nailed it that friendship is higher on a guy’s scale of relationship intamacy than sex is. Not that sex doesn’t strengthen the bond of friendship in a healthy relationship.
Most single guys wouldn’t think twice about having sex with an attractive woman they would NEVER want to be friends with. We would jump at the opportunity and flee at the first sign she wanted a commitment.
She’s right, but all most women care about is money and security.
Hence 10,000+++ years of human history where women trade sex for security, and men buy sex by providing security. That reads pretty vulgar but is true at its core.
Obviously human companionship goes way beyond money and sex. That is why people who have lots of both often feel empty and confused. They have the basics down but aren’t happy and can’t figure out why. It is because they are missing deep human needs like a sense of purpose and belonging, and being needed and needing someone. Call it love.
So yes, keeping our sanity goes far beyond just sex and security, but none of that changes the fact that sex for men and security for women are deep-rooted fundamental needs.
I’ve been friends with ugly girls, including several in college.
Inevitably, they’d get drunk and confess their love to me and cuss me for sleeping with/dating the cheerleader types.
I know women want security.
That’s what they holler every time I get close, anyway.
Many women get a false sense of themselves-put themselves on a pedestal.
Example a 8.5/9/10 guy will pick up a 5/10 woman at a bar just for sex and she then get's a false sense of herself. This might happen to her every so often..as you said guys just want laid and don't care about her looks as long as she is not hideous.
Later, 5/10 guys will try to date her and she thinks she can do better...because hey a 9/10 guy showed interest in her and turns them down. Later when she wants to be married or in a lt relationship she finds out the hard way and finally settles for the 5/6/10 guy.
I know that scream very well. lol
Well, the purpose of sex is to serve as an impediment to reproduction.
I’ve had guy friends. It’s up to the woman to remind that ‘this is a friendship only’. Wanting to and doing are two different things.
“Can men and women really be friends?
NO. Because -”
Perhaps because they’re insecure about themselves and weak in the area of giving into the temptation of cheating? If a married man and woman have that absolute love and trust between one and other it shouldn’t matter if their friends are male or female. In fact, I’ve seen a wife’s female friends create problems in marriages as well as a husbands male friends so opposite sex friendships shouldn’t be any more of an issue.
That’s not to say a wife should be hanging out with a male friend every evening at the cocktail lounge while the husband comes home to an empty house. The spouses needs come first.
Utter bravo sierra. As I said in the previous thread, I have friendships with many women, including a regular riding (bicycle) partner. Even if you’re single, just because you find a woman attractive doesn’t necessarily mean that you’d ruin a friendship by bringing sex into it. Men and women can most certainly be friends. Hell, I’m very close friends with a woman that I’ve known for 32 years, that started out as a teenage crush. Neither the closeness nor the beginning as an adolescent crush has ever impaired our friendship.
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