[Winstons Julia]

You need to be zotted.

Contraception is frequently used by married couples to PREVENT pregnancy when the couple is not in a position to have children.

You are nutz.

[ziravan]

Fail.

But, you go right ahead and let the left drive the agenda away from anything but their record.

They desperately need you to take your stand and fight on this hill, a battle they can actually strategically win.

The “war on women” is the Obama Administration destroying the economic future for everybody.

[ansel12]

I think that when we get an easy, safe, male contraceptive, that females will become more chaste and reluctant in giving out their sexual favors.

[MissesBush]

Contraception leads to abortion.

Talk about twisted logic, if anything contraception would cut down on the number of abortions by cutting down unwanted pregnancies. People aren't going to just have sex only when they want kids. Believe it or not they also do it to produce a bond of intimacy between the couple which most ideally should occur only within marriage. There is nothing in the Bible supporting the idea of contraception being a sin...period.

[Drew68]

OK, “I am pimp”, put your money where your mouth is. Run for congress on the “ban contraception” platform and let us know how you do.

[fr_freak]

4. There is no right to contraception.

I believe that contraception does lead to sexual immorality (in non-married couples), but I even more strongly believe that the government has NO AUTHORITY to say whether contraception is "permitted" or not. Saying that there is no right to contraception implies that our rights are something to be doled out and recognized by the government, rather than inalienable rights held by the people which the government is not permitted to violate. Any power not explicitly granted to the government is FORBIDDEN to the government. If we want people to stop using contraception, then we'll need a societal return to God, so that moral and social pressure keep people from this behavior, rather than an all-powerful nanny state.

That said, I'm cool with local/state governments banning abortion and all abortifacients because abortion is murder and murder is one of those crimes which is covered in the social compact. In other words, we as a society have agreed that murder is something we want the government to discourage and prosecute, just like robbery and rape. Any "contraception" that actually eliminates pregnancy by killing a fertilized egg or preventing it from implanting is, in fact, murdering an unborn child. However, I would never support the government having the power to outlaw a contraceptive such as a condom, not because I think using condoms is cool, but because I abhor the government having that much power.

[DFG]

IBTZ

[Responsibility2nd]

Do you not know that contraception is Scriptual? It serves a Godly purpose.

1 Corinthians 7:3-6 : From the apostle Paul to the Corinthians

The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife’s body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband’s body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. I say this as a CONCESSION, not as a command.

This depriving by mutual consent? Contraception.

[mlo]

"A few points:..."

Here's a few more.

" 1. Contraception is a leftist ploy to break down the family, faith in God, and all of society."

Yeah, and flouridation was a communist plot. Remember that one?

" 2. Freepers and Americans who use it need to repent to God. 3. The states need to ban it."

You are entitled to believe anything you like. If you think it's a sin, don't do it. But in a free society you are not entitled to impose your religious beliefs as law. This is not a theocracy. We do not accept the premise of Sharia. America is a great country, love it or leave it.

" 4. There is no right to contraception."

There most certainly is the right to make this choice for yourself.

" 5. Contraception leads to abortion. 6. Stop sexual immorality."

If you want to stop what you believe is immorality you do it by one, not engaging in it, and two, persuading others to agree with you. You don't get to outlaw it.

[Robert DeLong]

This coming from a self proclaimed pimp? Interesting.

[Future Snake Eater]

1. Contraception is a leftist ploy to break down the family, faith in God, and all of society.

Based on what (even flimsy) analysis and/or evidence? The Catholic Church's dogma? No thanks.

2. Freepers and Americans who use it need to repent to God.

Why? Because you say so?

3. The states need to ban it.

I think the states need to require Catholic hospitals give out contraceptives and free abortions. What? You don't like it when the states force crap down your throat?

4. There is no right to contraception.

It's not a right, it's simply an exercise some people engage in for many different reasons. Who beyond Sandra Slut and Obama said it was a right?

5. Contraception leads to abortion.

Invalid logic error: DIV BY 0

6. Stop sexual immorality.

Ummm...OK. Done.

[mnehring]

Click to learn more- Moby Trolling:

[humblegunner]

So?

How many kids you got?

[bethelgrad]

What about vasectomys? Do I need to have it reversed?

[Star Traveler]

With freedom of religion ... it’s your choice if you think that your religion requires you to avoid contraception ... and that’s fine as you choose for yourself. But, with others, they do not have that requirement in their religious practices and observances - so they choose to do differently than you.

And under the First Amendment with the freedom of religion - which protects all religions and not just one denomination or one doctrine of a particular religion - that means that the GOVERNMENT is not going to make a law requiring that all other religions OBSERVE YOUR OWN RELIGIOUS PRACTICE.

Buddhists may have a different position than you say for yours. Wiccans may have a different position, too. Earth-worshippers may have a different one. Scientologists may have a different one. Hindus may have a different one. Atheists may have a different one.

I hope you see that a particular religious doctrine that you feel you MUST ADHERE TO ... is NOT GOING TO BE MADE A PUBLIC LAW and force all the other religions to adhere to your own doctrine.

If you can’t see that, then you’ve got bigger problems here than just that one religious doctrine.

[gorush]

Ah jeez.

[exDemMom]

IBTZ?

As far as trolls go, this one’s attempt rates about 2/10.

[PoloSec]

impimp...You’re nic betrays you, you are a clown, a jokester, a jester. Now who do you think you’re fooling.

You are dedicated to pulling strings, it is quite obvious you are not serious, since you have no scripture to use in the context of contraception.

You are just playing, laughing and getting off on yourself, a pervert-er of scripture, and as a self proclaimed pimp, you are indeed a pervert.

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

Well, at least you put this in Chat.

Donate a thousand dollars and say a couple of Hail Marys...

[tomkat]

This is one of the most embarrassing threads I've seen posted here in 14+ years.

You should seriously try to find a handhold on reality.